"Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by JulieYBM » Thu Apr 07, 2016 4:16 pm

Retan wrote:I've been meaning to ask but what's a 'cut'?
In the Japanese animation industry the English word 'cut' (written in katakana as 'katto') refers to a shot. Every time the camera 'cuts' away to a different character or object is a 'cut'. For example, this scene from the Yuu Yuu Hakusho movie uses three cuts. This masterful fight scene from Episode #73 uses fifteen cuts. Rookie key animators are paid 4,000¥ a cut and the average key animator can usually finish two cuts a day, most cuts requiring multiple key animation frames to give the movement solid structure.

In-between animators can usually do up to fifteen drawings a day and are paid about 200-300¥ a drawing.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Retan » Thu Apr 07, 2016 4:19 pm

thanks again JulieYBM! :)

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Post by Ajay » Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:04 pm

Literally one page back, dude.
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Post by kinisking » Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:08 pm

Ajay wrote:Literally one page back, dude.
The picture didn't show and still doesn't show for me, so I wouldn't have known dude.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by ArchedThunder » Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:39 pm

I hope when Ken says he's moving onto his "next one" that he means another episode of Super.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Apr 07, 2016 6:29 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:I hope when Ken says he's moving onto his "next one" that he means another episode of Super.
I really hope that's the case, too. His work for Super overall has been really damn good, and I'm hoping to see more of it.

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:29 pm

Did Ken did something in Super so far?
I heard he did the new scene in the Opening with U6 fighters, but that's it.
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Post by JulieYBM » Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:33 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:Did Ken did something in Super so far?
I heard he did the new scene in the Opening with U6 fighters, but that's it.
Episode #5 and part of the Opening with the Universe Six fighters.
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Post by Wezenheim » Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:37 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:Did Ken did something in Super so far?
I heard he did the new scene in the Opening with U6 fighters, but that's it.
He worked on some of the fight with Super Saiyan 3 Goku vs. Beerus in episode 5. 1:03 to 1:10 here was part of Ken's work wasn't it? I could be wrong. He might've also done the second Kamehameha sequence.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Ajay » Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:46 pm

Ken lists what he did in episode 5 in this tweet:
ドラゴンボール超、観た!(^o^)
僕の一原パートは、スーパーサイヤ人3のカメハメ波っぽい気彈の辺りの前後です。
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一カット画面暗かったのはデュレイ対策かな?
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:15 pm

Ajay wrote:Ken lists what he did in episode 5 in this tweet:
ドラゴンボール超、観た!(^o^)
僕の一原パートは、スーパーサイヤ人3のカメハメ波っぽい気彈の辺りの前後です。
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Unfortunately, I'm still waiting on a translation. Have asked several translators I know, but they've yet to get back to me.
Decided to give this a whirl in Google translate, and this what I got from the hackneyed English translations: In the first line he basically says he watched Dragon Ball Super. In the second line, it seems as though Ken states his part in Episode 5 was the before and after Goku fired his Kamehameha wave while he was a Super Saiyan 3. In the third line, he also states it was fun to draw Bubbles and was happy about it. And in the fourth line... Google gave up translating anything and gave me total gibberish. Something about a cut screen being dark or something like that.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Sodhi » Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:19 pm

In the blu ray ssj3 part looks pretty cool.

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Post by Ajay » Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:21 pm

Haha, I mean I did work that much out from Google Translate also, but was hoping for some much needed clarity. :P
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Wezenheim » Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:33 pm

The Super Saiyan 3 section of that episode was definitely better than the action that came before. Not perfect by any means, but there were some good bits there. Man, if only Ken had more time!

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Post by Ajay » Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:46 pm

The lovely Herms got back to me with a translation. It says that he did everything around the "ki-like" Super Saiyan 3 Kamehameha and that it was fun to draw Bubbles.

So going by that, this is what Otsuka Ken did on episode 5 - https://a.pomf.cat/fuuvff.webm

Essentially, he did the best looking part of the entire episode next to the cool Tate 'pop' Kamehameha later on.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by JulieYBM » Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:49 pm

Ajay wrote:The lovely Herms got back to me with a translation. It says that he did everything around the "ki-like" Super Saiyan 3 Kamehameha and that it was fun to draw Bubbles.

So going by that, this is what Otsuka Ken did on episode 5 - https://a.pomf.cat/fuuvff.webm

Essentially, he did the best looking part of the entire episode next to the cool Tate 'pop' Kamehameha later on.
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Post by Ajay » Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:50 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Darn, my browser says that WebM is not safe. ~_~
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Wezenheim » Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:52 pm

Ajay wrote:The lovely Herms got back to me with a translation. It says that he did everything around the "ki-like" Super Saiyan 3 Kamehameha and that it was fun to draw Bubbles.

So going by that, this is what Otsuka Ken did on episode 5 - https://a.pomf.cat/fuuvff.webm

Essentially, he did the best looking part of the entire episode next to the cool Tate 'pop' Kamehameha later on.
Ah so Tate did that Kamehameha! Interesting. Guess I was wrong on both accounts (not completely I suppose but I was too early)! Still, I really liked the way Ken utilized his repeat frames and how he drew Goku.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by JulieYBM » Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:54 pm

Ajay wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Darn, my browser says that WebM is not safe. ~_~
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