Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:52 pm

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MasterVampire wrote:This is complete bullshit!!!!!!!!!

Even if Freeza did train for a few months his power level would realistically be around...what? like Imperfect or Semi-Pefect Cell?

To have him go from his power level on Planet Namek (so really weak) to a point where he is stronger than Goku at his max (so even stronger than Buu) in such a short amount of time is impossible and unrealistic even for DBZ.
In 6 days Goku went from 8,000 to 90,000. Thats over 11X stronger in a less than a week. You and nobody else knows what methods Freeza will use to train so dont call BS on something you dont know the details about.
A tad nitpick here. Goku didn't go from 8k to 90k. Remember he got a zenkai after he recovered from the hospital

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Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:53 pm

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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:58 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
KentalSSJ6 wrote:
MasterVampire wrote:This is complete bullshit!!!!!!!!!

Even if Freeza did train for a few months his power level would realistically be around...what? like Imperfect or Semi-Pefect Cell?

To have him go from his power level on Planet Namek (so really weak) to a point where he is stronger than Goku at his max (so even stronger than Buu) in such a short amount of time is impossible and unrealistic even for DBZ.
In 6 days Goku went from 8,000 to 90,000. Thats over 11X stronger in a less than a week. You and nobody else knows what methods Freeza will use to train so dont call BS on something you dont know the details about.
A tad nitpick here. Goku didn't go from 8k to 90k. Remember he got a zenkai after he recovered from the hospital
His PL was never revealed at that point. It went from his 8k during the fight with Vegeta to the 90k when he arrived on Namek. We got no PL in between so I used the last recorded PL.
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Post by Tyro » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:05 pm

Count me in the group that has a problem with Freeza training for 4 months and getting to Super Saiyan God tier. That said, I'm going to hope against hope that it's something more than regular punching-bag-and-pushups training.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:09 pm

Tyro wrote:Count me in the group that has a problem with Freeza training for 4 months and getting to Super Saiyan God tier. That said, I'm going to hope against hope that it's something more than regular punching-bag-and-pushups training.
Magic elixir, mutant bath, Freeza race happy fun time circle, Freeza is the chosen one, pick one :lol:
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Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:14 pm

PL was never revealed at that point. It went from his 8k during the fight with Vegeta to the 90k when he arrived on Namek. We got no PL in between so I used the last recorded PL.
It wasn't revealed doesn't mean he didn't get stronger. He wasn't 8K(or whateva over 8,000 is) when he got a zenkai. But it's no point in debating.

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Post by Bullza » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:27 pm

Anything new or interesting been announced in the past 10 hours or so?

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Post by EmmaWinters » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:28 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:Magic elixir
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Bullza wrote:Anything new or interesting been announced in the past 10 hours or so?
Not that I'm aware of. If you've seen the Mecha Freeza/Tagoma pictures, you're up-to-date.
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Post by Dyno » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:42 pm

Maybe we will finally get something new within one day or so. It is already February 20 in Japan, isn't?

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Post by EmmaWinters » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:44 pm

Dyno wrote:Maybe we will finally get something new within one day or so. It is already February 20 in Japan, isn't?
It's 12:45pm on the 19th.
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Post by Dyno » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:47 pm

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Dyno wrote:Maybe we will finally get something new within one day or so. It is already February 20 in Japan, isn't?
It's 12:45pm on the 19th.

I truly don't know anything about timezone... Especially here in my country when we are in Daylight Saving Time. :lol:

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Post by Big Momma » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:50 pm

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FatNagger69 wrote:
Dyno wrote:Maybe we will finally get something new within one day or so. It is already February 20 in Japan, isn't?
It's 12:45pm on the 19th.

I truly don't know anything about timezone... Especially here in my country when we are in Daylight Saving Time. :lol:
You could just google "Japan Time" :wink:
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:54 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:
Tyro wrote:Count me in the group that has a problem with Freeza training for 4 months and getting to Super Saiyan God tier. That said, I'm going to hope against hope that it's something more than regular punching-bag-and-pushups training.
Magic elixir, mutant bath, Freeza race happy fun time circle, Freeza is the chosen one, pick one :lol:
We saw Freeza getting out of a tub before in the trailer. It's possible that henchmen have build a super mutant bath allowing him to grow stronger over time. Freeza never needed it until now since he always feel that he was the strongest in the universe in the past.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:56 pm

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dbzfan7 wrote:
Tyro wrote:Count me in the group that has a problem with Freeza training for 4 months and getting to Super Saiyan God tier. That said, I'm going to hope against hope that it's something more than regular punching-bag-and-pushups training.
Magic elixir, mutant bath, Freeza race happy fun time circle, Freeza is the chosen one, pick one :lol:
We saw Freeza getting out of a tub before in the trailer. It's possible that henchmen have build a super mutant bath allowing him to grow stronger over time. Freeza never needed it until now since he always feel that he was the strongest in the universe in the past.
Those evil wrinkles must have lowered his true fighting potential. All he needed was to relax.
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Post by sintzu » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:04 am

Tennessaiyan wrote:I seriously doubt that Vegeta alone will be the one to take Freeza down,I think that how the movie ends will come completely out of left field.
For a lot of people that is left field.
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Post by Bullza » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:09 am

I really think it's time for a second trailer now, the movie is less than 2 months away and all they've shown is a small 1 minute clip.

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Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:10 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:
Tyro wrote:Count me in the group that has a problem with Freeza training for 4 months and getting to Super Saiyan God tier. That said, I'm going to hope against hope that it's something more than regular punching-bag-and-pushups training.
Magic elixir, mutant bath, Freeza race happy fun time circle, Freeza is the chosen one, pick one :lol:
We saw Freeza getting out of a tub before in the trailer. It's possible that henchmen have build a super mutant bath allowing him to grow stronger over time. Freeza never needed it until now since he always feel that he was the strongest in the universe in the past.
Except now he's being retconned to always know about Beerus and Buu. Not to mention that he didn't try this even back when Goku kicked his ass and he got nearly two years of time to train/bathe.

Oh, and Goku didn't go from 8,000 to 90,000 with training BTW. He did it with near-death healing boosts. He got five of them.
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Post by Chuquita » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:16 am

Re: disappointment?

I'm only disappointed that "Dragon Back to the Future: Part II" won't be happening, but I had a lot of fun theorizing about it here with everyone, so not a total loss. (I wanted those awkward Vegeta and Bulma scenes so bad.)

Re: power and how Freeza gets it

This I don't care much about. Low on my priorities for this film. It matters how he gets it, but I'm not gonna theorize on it.

Re: what I'm still waiting for

Gokû and Vegeta!! My faves! Where are you, what are you doing, and please tell me comedic happenstance is involved.
I want them as classmates and roommates over at Beerus' planet so bad. We've never seen them train/live together. I have wanted that since I first saw the Room of Spirit and Time episodes on Toonami ages ago. OuO
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Post by ZombieVito » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:19 am

Black Hawk wrote:I'm honestly surprised at the level of my-hype-is-killed I'm seeing. Call me strange, but what we've seen of the manga has me more hyped than before and has strengthened my belief that Toriyama-sensei has something absolutely incredible going here. He's doing one of the things he does best: betraying the readers' expectations with something more-than-likely even better than our expectations. At least, that's what I wholeheartedly believe.
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Post by Zephyr » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:20 am

I'm liking how much this film is looking to be shaking things up. Hope it does more than what we've seen.
RandomGuy96 wrote:Oh, and Goku didn't go from 8,000 to 90,000 with training BTW. He did it with near-death healing boosts. He got five of them.
He abused aspects of his physiology during training. That's still training.

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