The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:40 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Not sure if this was covered but End of Z Goten and/or Trunks VS Freeza.

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Either of the SSJ kids in the Buu Arc would have turned Freeza inside-out.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kid Buu » Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:43 pm

They stopped training after Kid Buu, so during the Uub arc they would be a LOT more rustier.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:43 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Not sure if this was covered but End of Z Goten and/or Trunks VS Freeza.

Super Saiyan forms and transformations allowed.
Either of the SSJ kids in the Buu Arc would have turned Freeza inside-out.
Well I ask because Bills says Goku would still need SSJ1 to beat Freeza, basically stating Goku's base PL by EoZ/BoG is below 150 million. I also know Goku far surpassed Goten and Trunks in one on one combat so I was wondering if Goten and Trunk's base PL's were high enough so that the SSJ1 multiplier would put them above Freeza's 120 million.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:47 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Not sure if this was covered but End of Z Goten and/or Trunks VS Freeza.

Super Saiyan forms and transformations allowed.
As Super Saiyans, they are too strong for Freeza, rusty or not rusty.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kid Buu » Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:49 pm

Goten is Yamcha-Level jobber though.

*Freeza does his Sodiken-Kieznen move*
*Goten one shots Freeza*
*Goten gets cut in half*

Draw.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by rereboy » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:28 pm

Kid Buu wrote:They stopped training after Kid Buu, so during the Uub arc they would be a LOT more rustier.
They never really trained before Gohan and Vegeta noticed that they could become super saiyans. They just played around. And yet Trunks for example was strong enough to actually almost being able to hit Vegeta in his SSJ. Freeza wouldn't stand a chance against any version of these kids.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:30 pm

Here is another one:

Bardock vs Gurd

This is the TV Special Bardock, meaning no SS, with BP almost 10.000. He can use Oozaru if you want, though I think it would be meaningless against Gurd (he can freeze time & cut his tail).
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by rereboy » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:35 pm

If Bardock manages to land a sneak attack or an attack fast enough to strike him before he reacts he wins. Otherwise Gurd has this one since he could just freeze time and attack him or paralyze him and attack.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:43 pm

rereboy wrote:If Bardock manages to land a sneak attack or an attack fast enough to strike him before he reacts he wins. Otherwise Gurd has this one since he could just freeze time and attack him or paralyze him and attack.
Gurd is a really underestimated villain. If he became strong enough he could have become the most dangerous enemy in all of Dragonball.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by rereboy » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:47 pm

The only thing special about him was the freeze time ability, which is really over-powered. Other characters had paralysis abilities, like Chaotzu.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:58 pm

His freeze time ability is exactly what makes him so dangerous. If he ever reached a Buu saga level of power, hed have been a way more serious threat than any of the previous villains.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:40 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Here is another one:

Bardock vs Gurd

This is the TV Special Bardock, meaning no SS, with BP almost 10.000. He can use Oozaru if you want, though I think it would be meaningless against Gurd (he can freeze time & cut his tail).
Guldo stomps. Krillin and Gohan were both far stronger than Bardock and Guldo was going to kill them.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:03 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Not sure if this was covered but End of Z Goten and/or Trunks VS Freeza.

Super Saiyan forms and transformations allowed.
Goten > Piccolo(Buu Arc). Goten >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Freeza.
Vegeta: "Funny... I seem to recall Kakarot being fed the same information right before he transformed; the distinct look on your faces when he went Super Saiyan didn't exactly inspire confidence. One does not predict or calculate power like ours."
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Post by Rocketman » Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:09 pm

Does Bardock's future sight alert him to Gurd's powers?
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:11 pm

Rocketman wrote:Does Bardock's future sight alert him to Gurd's powers?
TheMightyOzaru wrote:Goten > Piccolo(Buu Arc). Goten >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Freeza.
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Maybe? Its rather erratic in what its shown but its possible. Its definitely no Sharingan from Naruto though.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:12 pm

Rocketman wrote:Does Bardock's future sight alert him to Gurd's powers?
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Get out.
It's supposed to show Goten is way stronger, don't take it so seriously :roll: . If you want numbers, I think SSJ Goten is 12.5 times stronger than Freeza.
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:19 am

How about this: Super Saiyan God Gohan (assuming half Saiyans can go SSJG) vs. Bills instead of Goku. Since Gohan was stronger before the transformation could he have a better chance of winning?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:15 am

Super Gogeta VS All forms of Majin Buu.

How many does he take down?
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Post by rereboy » Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:14 am

Probably all the forms that Gohan couls take down. Gotenks-Buu and Gohan-Buu may be too much for him.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:34 am

Kid Buu wrote:Goten is Yamcha-Level jobber though.

*Freeza does his Sodiken-Kieznen move*
*Goten one shots Freeza*
*Goten gets cut in half*

Draw.
You could't be MORE wrong. Goten and Trunks takes this. Rusty or not. SSJ gives them the edge
KentalSSJ6 wrote:His freeze time ability is exactly what makes him so dangerous. If he ever reached a Buu saga level of power, hed have been a way more serious threat than any of the previous villains.
Honestly. I think either Supreme Kai would be able to stop it or some plot thing would happen that SSJ2 and beyond breaks time(Stupid I know). Had freezing time been used in Boo Arc. Honestly never saw as a threat. Seeing as even with his Freezing time he had trouble with Gohan and Krillin. What if he freezes time but can't find them(Like how he almost could't find Krillin and Gohan. Notice I said ALMOST) and he runs out of breath. Then they do a Vegeta-like attack on him.

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