Either of the SSJ kids in the Buu Arc would have turned Freeza inside-out.KentalSSJ6 wrote:Not sure if this was covered but End of Z Goten and/or Trunks VS Freeza.
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They stopped training after Kid Buu, so during the Uub arc they would be a LOT more rustier.
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Well I ask because Bills says Goku would still need SSJ1 to beat Freeza, basically stating Goku's base PL by EoZ/BoG is below 150 million. I also know Goku far surpassed Goten and Trunks in one on one combat so I was wondering if Goten and Trunk's base PL's were high enough so that the SSJ1 multiplier would put them above Freeza's 120 million.Kamiccolo9 wrote:Either of the SSJ kids in the Buu Arc would have turned Freeza inside-out.KentalSSJ6 wrote:Not sure if this was covered but End of Z Goten and/or Trunks VS Freeza.
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As Super Saiyans, they are too strong for Freeza, rusty or not rusty.KentalSSJ6 wrote:Not sure if this was covered but End of Z Goten and/or Trunks VS Freeza.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Goten is Yamcha-Level jobber though.
*Freeza does his Sodiken-Kieznen move*
*Goten one shots Freeza*
*Goten gets cut in half*
Draw.
*Freeza does his Sodiken-Kieznen move*
*Goten one shots Freeza*
*Goten gets cut in half*
Draw.
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They never really trained before Gohan and Vegeta noticed that they could become super saiyans. They just played around. And yet Trunks for example was strong enough to actually almost being able to hit Vegeta in his SSJ. Freeza wouldn't stand a chance against any version of these kids.Kid Buu wrote:They stopped training after Kid Buu, so during the Uub arc they would be a LOT more rustier.
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Here is another one:
Bardock vs Gurd
This is the TV Special Bardock, meaning no SS, with BP almost 10.000. He can use Oozaru if you want, though I think it would be meaningless against Gurd (he can freeze time & cut his tail).
Bardock vs Gurd
This is the TV Special Bardock, meaning no SS, with BP almost 10.000. He can use Oozaru if you want, though I think it would be meaningless against Gurd (he can freeze time & cut his tail).
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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If Bardock manages to land a sneak attack or an attack fast enough to strike him before he reacts he wins. Otherwise Gurd has this one since he could just freeze time and attack him or paralyze him and attack.
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Gurd is a really underestimated villain. If he became strong enough he could have become the most dangerous enemy in all of Dragonball.rereboy wrote:If Bardock manages to land a sneak attack or an attack fast enough to strike him before he reacts he wins. Otherwise Gurd has this one since he could just freeze time and attack him or paralyze him and attack.
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The only thing special about him was the freeze time ability, which is really over-powered. Other characters had paralysis abilities, like Chaotzu.
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His freeze time ability is exactly what makes him so dangerous. If he ever reached a Buu saga level of power, hed have been a way more serious threat than any of the previous villains.
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Guldo stomps. Krillin and Gohan were both far stronger than Bardock and Guldo was going to kill them.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Here is another one:
Bardock vs Gurd
This is the TV Special Bardock, meaning no SS, with BP almost 10.000. He can use Oozaru if you want, though I think it would be meaningless against Gurd (he can freeze time & cut his tail).
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Goten > Piccolo(Buu Arc). Goten >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Freeza.KentalSSJ6 wrote:Not sure if this was covered but End of Z Goten and/or Trunks VS Freeza.
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Does Bardock's future sight alert him to Gurd's powers?
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Maybe? Its rather erratic in what its shown but its possible. Its definitely no Sharingan from Naruto though.Rocketman wrote:Does Bardock's future sight alert him to Gurd's powers?
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It's supposed to show Goten is way stronger, don't take it so seriouslyRocketman wrote:Does Bardock's future sight alert him to Gurd's powers?
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How about this: Super Saiyan God Gohan (assuming half Saiyans can go SSJG) vs. Bills instead of Goku. Since Gohan was stronger before the transformation could he have a better chance of winning?
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Super Gogeta VS All forms of Majin Buu.
How many does he take down?
How many does he take down?
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Probably all the forms that Gohan couls take down. Gotenks-Buu and Gohan-Buu may be too much for him.
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You could't be MORE wrong. Goten and Trunks takes this. Rusty or not. SSJ gives them the edgeKid Buu wrote:Goten is Yamcha-Level jobber though.
*Freeza does his Sodiken-Kieznen move*
*Goten one shots Freeza*
*Goten gets cut in half*
Draw.
Honestly. I think either Supreme Kai would be able to stop it or some plot thing would happen that SSJ2 and beyond breaks time(Stupid I know). Had freezing time been used in Boo Arc. Honestly never saw as a threat. Seeing as even with his Freezing time he had trouble with Gohan and Krillin. What if he freezes time but can't find them(Like how he almost could't find Krillin and Gohan. Notice I said ALMOST) and he runs out of breath. Then they do a Vegeta-like attack on him.KentalSSJ6 wrote:His freeze time ability is exactly what makes him so dangerous. If he ever reached a Buu saga level of power, hed have been a way more serious threat than any of the previous villains.







