The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Cursed Lemon]

Super Gogeta VS All forms of Majin Buu.

How many does he take down?

I cannot bring myself to believe that Gogeta is THAT much weaker than Vegetto. And considering Vegetto vs. Buuhan was like SSJ2 kid Gohan against Cell, I'm going to have to say that Gogeta still walks away without a scratch. If we also buy into the (admittedly stretching it) notion that Gogeta is more "serious" than Vegetto, he'd also get the job done quickly and done right.

[ThePrinceOfSaiyans]

Super Gogeta VS All forms of Majin Buu.

How many does he take down?

I cannot bring myself to believe that Gogeta is THAT much weaker than Vegetto. And considering Vegetto vs. Buuhan was like SSJ2 kid Gohan against Cell, I'm going to have to say that Gogeta still walks away without a scratch. If we also buy into the (admittedly stretching it) notion that Gogeta is more "serious" than Vegetto, he'd also get the job done quickly and done right.

I agree, and reading through this All-Purpose Versus Thread has reminded me of something hilarious I once read...

On a question and answer site I once saw "Who would win in a fight Edward Cullen or Vegeta? Or if that is too unfair, Vegeta Vs All the cullens"

To this day, my sides have not healed fully from the laughter.

[RandomGuy96]

Super Gogeta VS All forms of Majin Buu.

How many does he take down?

Stops at Super Buu. Takes down Grey Buu, Pure Buu, Mr. Buu, and Fat Buu.

[Super Vegetto]

Super Gogeta VS All forms of Majin Buu.

How many does he take down?

To tell the truth i never seen SSJ Gogeta anywhere near SSJ3 Gotenks, but somehow i think diffrent about this.

I think that SSJ Gogeta would be stronger than Super Boo and any form under him, and i think that AT would do the same thing if he made him in manga.

Probably strong as Mystic Gohan, but more skilled and defnitly managing to take victory after good battle.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Super Saiyan Gogeta kills Pure, Pure Evil, Good, Mr., and Innocent Boo, but doesn't stand a chance against Evil Boo. Same for Super Saiyan 2. Super Saiyan 3 Gogeta should be strong enough to kill Evil Boo, Piccolo Boo, Piccolo/Goten/Trunks Boo, and S. Kaioshin Boo, but wouldn't stand a chance against Gotenks Boo (though he is stronger than Gohan IMO).

[Cursed Lemon]

Do we actually have a measurement for Gogeta vs. Vegetto, or just the statement by Old Kai?

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Do we actually have a measurement for Gogeta vs. Vegetto, or just the statement by Old Kai?

We can tell the difference between Gogeta & Vegetto if we look at the difference between Gogeta/Goku & Vegeta and Gotenks/Goten & Trunks.

Base/SS Goten & Trunks don't seem to be times weaker than base/SS Gohan & Vegeta, judging their feats during training with them. Goten scared Gohan with his power, and while Gohan could block all of his hits during sparring, he obviously didn't have an easy time doing so, since he was sweating & tired. When SS Trunks went all out against SS Vegeta, who said that he would block all of his hits, Trunks pushed Vegeta so much, that Vegeta was forced to punch Trunks to stop him. Against #18, Goten was afraid that SS Trunks could kill #18, with Trunks saying that he has suppressed the ki blast so that she won't die (while also saying to Goten not to underestimate her, since she was stronger than their dads years ago). #18 dodged it, but considered the ki blast strong enough to be dangerous for her, so she ended it quickly by revealing their true identities & DQ them. Piccolo was also scared of their power when they revealed their full power. And finally, they got even stronger after training inside RoSaT for a week.

All these IMO imply that they are less than 2 times weaker than Goku, Gohan, and Vegeta (with the gap getting smaller after RoSaT), stronger than #18 (as well as SS Goku, Vegeta, and Trunks before RoSaT), and probably stronger than Piccolo as well. So, Gotenks should be less than 2 times weaker than Gogeta, and Super Vegetto is way over 4 times stronger than SS3 Gotenks (base Vegetto is probably stronger than SS3 Gotenks as well).

[Super Vegetto]

Do we actually have a measurement for Gogeta vs. Vegetto, or just the statement by Old Kai?

We can tell the difference between Gogeta & Vegetto if we look at the difference between Gogeta/Goku & Vegeta and Gotenks/Goten & Trunks.

Base/SS Goten & Trunks don't seem to be times weaker than base/SS Gohan & Vegeta, judging their feats during training with them. Goten scared Gohan with his power, and while Gohan could block all of his hits during sparring, he obviously didn't have an easy time doing so, since he was sweating & tired. When SS Trunks went all out against SS Vegeta, who said that he would block all of his hits, Trunks pushed Vegeta so much, that Vegeta was forced to punch Trunks to stop him. Against #18, Goten was afraid that SS Trunks could kill #18, with Trunks saying that he has suppressed the ki blast so that she won't die (while also saying to Goten not to underestimate her, since she was stronger than their dads years ago). #18 dodged it, but considered the ki blast strong enough to be dangerous for her, so she ended it quickly by revealing their true identities & DQ them. Piccolo was also scared of their power when they revealed their full power. And finally, they got even stronger after training inside RoSaT for a week.

All these IMO imply that they are less than 2 times weaker than Goku, Gohan, and Vegeta (with the gap getting smaller after RoSaT), stronger than #18 (as well as SS Goku, Vegeta, and Trunks before RoSaT), and probably stronger than Piccolo as well. So, Gotenks should be less than 2 times weaker than Gogeta, and Super Vegetto is way over 4 times stronger than SS3 Gotenks (base Vegetto is probably stronger than SS3 Gotenks as well).

They didn't got stronger in Rosat. Only Gotenks got stronger in Rosat.

[Cursed Lemon]

This would be so much easier if DBZ characters just FOUGHT instead of dicked around. lol

[TheGmGoken]

They didn't got stronger in Rosat. Only Gotenks got stronger in Rosat.

How would Gotenks get stronger and not Goten and Trunks -_-. Gotenks is the power of Goten and Trunks

[Rocketman]

Gogeta crushes all forms of Buu within his time limit.

On a question and answer site I once saw "Who would win in a fight Edward Cullen or Vegeta? Or if that is too unfair, Vegeta Vs All the cullens"

To this day, my sides have not healed fully from the laughter. :lol:

Though it pains me to say it, Vegeta would eventually lose. Twilight vampires are basically invincible.

[Super Vegetto]

They didn't got stronger in Rosat. Only Gotenks got stronger in Rosat.

How would Gotenks get stronger and not Goten and Trunks -_-. Gotenks is the power of Goten and Trunks

Wrong. Gotenks is complitly diffrent guy.

There is a reason why his Base is stronger than his SSJ after training in Rosat...

[TheGmGoken]

They didn't got stronger in Rosat. Only Gotenks got stronger in Rosat.

How would Gotenks get stronger and not Goten and Trunks -_-. Gotenks is the power of Goten and Trunks

Wrong. Gotenks is complitly diffrent guy.

There is a reason why his Base is stronger than his SSJ after training in Rosat...

Because Goten and Trunks trained as a fusion then they got stronger when they was unfused. Which makes Gotenks base stronger than the Gotenks of the past. Gotenks made be a different guy but he a result of Goten and Trunks's power.

[Super Vegetto]

Actualy no. Goten and Trunks fused in Base and produced Base Gotenks that surpassed SSJ Gotenks.

Now there is a catch. They fused in SSJ before Rosat in SSJ Gotenks and that Gotenks got surpassed.

Going by what you say, we get Base Kids > SSJ Kids and probably SSJ Adults, and that clearly doesn't make any sense.

No hard fealings, but Gotenks gains power on his own in Rosat...

[TheGmGoken]

Actualy no. Goten and Trunks fused in Base and produced Base Gotenks that surpassed SSJ Gotenks.

Now there is a catch. They fused in SSJ before Rosat in SSJ Gotenks and that Gotenks got surpassed.

Going by what you say, we get Base Kids > SSJ Kids and probably SSJ Adults, and that clearly doesn't make any sense.

No hard fealings, but Gotenks gains power on his own in Rosat...

Where did I say that Base Gotenks isn't stronger than SSJ Gotnks and when did I say Goten and Trunks was NOT in base when fused

I just said Gotenks surpassed Gotenks of the past did I not. Going but what I said Goten and Trunks are stronger than what they was before they trained which is expected since they trained. Also what hard feelings? For an anime? Why catch feelings? Gotenks is Goten's and Trunk's power. If Goten and Trunks get stronger then so does Gotenks,

[Super Vegetto]

Actualy no. Goten and Trunks fused in Base and produced Base Gotenks that surpassed SSJ Gotenks.

Now there is a catch. They fused in SSJ before Rosat in SSJ Gotenks and that Gotenks got surpassed.

Going by what you say, we get Base Kids > SSJ Kids and probably SSJ Adults, and that clearly doesn't make any sense.

No hard fealings, but Gotenks gains power on his own in Rosat...

Where did I say that Base Gotenks isn't stronger than SSJ Gotnks and when did I say Goten and Trunks was NOT in base when fused

I just said Gotenks surpassed Gotenks of the past did I not. Going but what I said Goten and Trunks are stronger than what they was before they trained which is expected since they trained. Also what hard feelings? For an anime? Why catch feelings? Gotenks is Goten's and Trunk's power. If Goten and Trunks get stronger then so does Gotenks,

You never said that Gotenk isn't stronger than SSJ Gotenks Post. You said: How would Gotenks get stronger and not Goten and Trunks -_-. Gotenks is the power of Goten and Trunks


Let's get something straight: You say Base Goten and Trunks Post Rosat > SSJ Goten and Trunks Pre Rosat ?

[Kaboom]

Super Gogeta VS All forms of Majin Buu.
How many does he take down?

All of 'em. Just not AS easily as Super Vegetto could. Unlike for Vegetto, Gotenks- and Gohan-Boo might actually require Gogeta to use full power and effort.

The Old Kaioshin says that Vegetto is as strong as he is primarily because of Goku and Vegeta, not just because of the Potara being better. Gogeta's made up of the same "ingredients," so there's no reason to assume he'd be some pathetic weakling compared to Vegetto and barely able to outdo Gotenks or something. Goku/Vegeta Fusions are just special, in-universe math and logic be damned.

[TheGmGoken]

You never said that Gotenk isn't stronger than SSJ Gotenks Post. You said: How would Gotenks get stronger and not Goten and Trunks -_-. Gotenks is the power of Goten and Trunks

Re my other post.

Which makes Gotenks base stronger than the Gotenks of the past.

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Let's get something straight: You say Base Goten and Trunks Post Rosat > SSJ Goten and Trunks Pre Rosat ?

No cause they would make them stronger than. I'm saying Goten and Trunks got stronger in the ROSAT

[goku the krump dancer]

Some of you guys' Gogeta strength logic confuses the hell outta me.

SSJ Gotenks (the fusion of otherwise piss-water level Goten and Trunks) can rival SSJ3 Goku.

But SSJ Gogeta (The fusion of two of the strongest, most experienced and battle savvy individuals) can't surpass Ultimate Gohan? Who's at best x5 stronger than SSJ3 Goku.

You mean to tell me SSJ Gogeta is at best less than x5 stronger than SSJ3 Goku?

[Super Vegetto]

"Because Goten and Trunks trained as a fusion then they got stronger when they was unfused. Which makes Gotenks base stronger than the Gotenks of the past. Gotenks made be a different guy but he a result of Goten and Trunks's power."

You mean this ?

You still say that it's result of Goten and Trunks power which isn't. It's result of Gotenks power.

Kids can't posiblty surpass own SSJ sef in less than 2 weeks...