"DragonBall Z Kai" TV Broadcast Talkback

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Post by Metalwario64 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:47 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:I really like the new Jeice. His Australian accent is less obnoxious.
Yes, I feel the same way. It's a lot like Tatum's Zarbon, taking the basic principals of Sabat's performance, but making it sound more natural, realistic and distinct. Sabat's a good actor, but when he has so many roles, it becomes apparent, and they all end up sounding cartoony, as he has to differentiate them. I think that takes away from what could otherwise be a good performance.

I'm glad that he isn't Jeice anymore, as the Australian accent is very toned down, and the new actor definitely doesn't sound like Sabat, while still sounding like the basic performance Sabat attempted, which he had to put a very thick accent on to mask his voice, whereas the new actor doesn't have to deal with that.
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Post by penguintruth » Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:49 pm

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jjgp1112 wrote:I really like the new Jeice. His Australian accent is less obnoxious.
Yes, I feel the same way. It's a lot like Tatum's Zarbon, taking the basic principals of Sabat's performance, but making it sound more natural, realistic and distinct.
Are you kidding? He sounds more obnoxious than Sabat! Even McNeil's Jeice was better!

It's fucking painful.
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Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:50 pm

We can't judge them too far, they only said a few lines. wait for the next episode!

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Post by Blue » Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:51 pm

penguintruth wrote: Are you kidding? He sounds more obnoxious than Sabat! Even McNeil's Jeice was better!

It's fucking painful.
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Post by jjgp1112 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:54 pm

The new Jeice is just more high pitched. But his accent sounds a lot more natural. Although I actually liked Sabat's Jeice voice, it was so obvious he was forcing the accent out and it sounded like a cheap stereotype more than anything else.
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Post by penguintruth » Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:56 pm

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penguintruth wrote: Are you kidding? He sounds more obnoxious than Sabat! Even McNeil's Jeice was better!

It's fucking painful.
Yeesh, did a dingo eat your baby PenguinTruth?
No, but every time the new Jeice spoke, it felt like a dingo was eating my ears.
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Post by Blue » Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:59 pm

Sounds like that dingo threw some pain on the barbie mate!

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Post by SonEric84 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:07 pm

I thought Jeice was okay (and I was being nice because I was trying to go into it as open-minded as possible) until his "What was that?!" line when Guldo was killed. It just sounded so unnatural and forced. Here's to hoping it improves.
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Post by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:08 pm

Blue wrote:On Topic:(Ghurd has such a cool voice, I wish he was around longer!)
Y'know, I was thinking the same thing. Ghourd's new voice was simply amazing! It's too bad we didn't get to hear him pout about getting offed by Vegeta (talking heads are a no-no I guess...).

Speaking of that scene, did Nicktoons edit Ghourd's death (or even just Toei for Kai), or did Vegeta always just laserbeam his head off in the anime? (I never watched much of Z) In the manga, he just brutally karate chops his fucking head off!
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Post by sailorspazz » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:11 pm

Holy, shit....they kept the decapitation! In some ways, this version has been more edited than the first dub (like editing the beer from the anti-beer message....LOL, wut?), but this time, they actually kept Gurd's headless body falling to the ground. But they edited out the head....where did it go? :lol: I guess you can show a headless body if the head isn't there with it? And, of course, that meant they took out Vegeta talking to the decapitated head. But still, I was surprised that they allowed as much as they did. I was sure they would just skip the decapitation and cut right to Vegeta blowing Gurd up.

As for the new Ginyu voices....eh, they're mostly OK. Though I didn't expect them to keep Jheese's Australian accent, since there's no real reason to do so. Thankfully, Reacoom was toned down. And I kept hearing Kaoru from Ouran in Gurd's voice (probably because that's one of the few significant dub roles I've heard Greg Ayres play).
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Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:12 pm

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Blue wrote:On Topic:(Ghurd has such a cool voice, I wish he was around longer!)
Y'know, I was thinking the same thing. Ghourd's new voice was simply amazing! It's too bad we didn't get to hear him pout about getting offed by Vegeta (talking heads are a no-no I guess...).

Speaking of that scene, did Nicktoons edit Ghourd's death (or even just Toei for Kai), or did Vegeta always just laserbeam his head off in the anime? (I never watched much of Z) In the manga, he just brutally karate chops his fucking head off!
If you talking about Vegeta slashes Gurd's head, then yes, they keep it in Kai.

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Post by Metalwario64 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:12 pm

Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:Speaking of that scene, did Nicktoons edit Ghourd's death (or even just Toei for Kai), or did Vegeta always just laserbeam his head off in the anime? (I never watched much of Z) In the manga, he just brutally karate chops his fucking head off!
Yeah, in the original Z anime he beamed it off. Nicktoons cut out his head rolling and Vegeta blasting it, and they made it look like Vegeta blasted his remaining body. I believe that's what they were aiming for... but it looks very confusing, as though he turns around and blasts nothing...
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Post by linkdude20002001 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:19 pm

Blue wrote:Ghurd has such a cool voice, I wish he was around longer!
Hell, yeah! I was so disappointed when he died. It was just so much fun to listen to. :D
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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:28 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:I really like the new Jeice. His Australian accent is less obnoxious. The new Ginyu's pretty awesome too. It's like a younger sounding version of Armstrong. It just really fits as the confident leader. Great voice.
Fully agreed about Jeece. Jokes about my nationality aside, I really like his voice. I love how they kept his Australian accent, but toned it down a whole bunch. Ginyū's okay too, but I prefer his previous voice.

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Post by batistabus » Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:20 pm

Here are my thoughts on the Ginyu Force.

Ginyu - I don't think he sounds like Armstrong at all, and I think that's a good thing. I love Armstrong and his voice, but not for Ginyu. This voice is younger, more energetic, and fits better in my opinion. I like it but I'm not blown away.

Recoome - The herpderp is basically gone, but he still sounds dumb. Still, I really like the voice Sabat does for him and it sounds like a fun voice to do. That's probably why he kept it. I like it much better.

Jeice - The way they pronounce his name is like a mixture of Jeese and Jice, so I guess it's a reasonable compromise. I'm not a fan of his voice, and I only like that it doesn't sound like Sabat (not that I dislike Sabat's voice, I just wanted more variety). The Australian accent is toned down, but sometimes its toned down so much so it's not even there, which doesn't make sense. There was no reason to have it in there. If you're going to change a major character like Freeza so drastically, a minor one like Jeese shouldn't be a problem. I don't mind that it's high pitched, but we'll have to see more of this to get a better judgment.

Burter - The rendition is a bit less raspy than the original portrayal. I am not a Vic fan-boy so it means nothing to me that he is voicing this character. I like it I suppose, but I didn't hate it before. Not enough to make a full judgement.

Guldo - Good. I thought it was perfectly fine before too. No complaints, good choice.

The Song - I was pleasantly surprised they matched the harmonies. I wish they would do the whole song.

Overall - I like it, but I thought I would like it more. I wouldn't say I'm disappointed, but I'm not overjoyed like I am now for Freeza.

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Post by Kendamu » Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:57 pm

I'm actually somewhat impressed with the new Ginyu Force. Baata was a little too high-pitched compared to how I imagined him, but it wasn't annoying or anything. The changes in Ginyu, Gurd, and ReaCoom were all appreciated but they didn't really strike me on that "Wow!" point that Jees did. Jees' voice is a major improvement and I'm very glad that it turned out the way it did. No accent at all would've been best, but I think the route they went (which reminded me more of a '70s or '80s Brit rocker than an Aussie) was really good!

It's about to come on again and I had to leave halfway into it earlier today, so I guess I'll get to see today's censorship now.

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Post by JulieYBM » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:03 pm

I thought they were awful. Oddly enough, Butta sounded like he had the least trouble speaking. Ginyû's retort to Jheese was such an awful read.
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Post by Clockwork00 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:14 pm

I didn't mind his actual voice, but Jeice's acting was ear crippling. It sounded so awkward, especially during the whole hair braiding thing.

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:17 pm

Hair braiding?! Did Kai add in some bizarre fanfic plots where the Ginyu braid each other's hair? I'm... very confused. :shock:
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Post by Kendamu » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:23 pm

Well, Gurd's disappearing head was kind of oddly censored, but it won't matter in the end when the DVD comes out.

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