The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
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I do: BOG is a movie.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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I meant in a fight. I dont think Sean would hit an older lady, so I'm giving it to Nozawa.dbzfan7 wrote:In a fight I think Sean would win. Nozawa though defines Goku if we're going for who's the better Goku.Kid Buu wrote:Sean Schemmel vs Masako Nozawa
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Unlike the other movies, it is stated to be neither a spin-off nor a side story, but an actual part of the official story. They ignored anime-only things like Gregory, they didn't care how it would affect GT because it wasn't part of the original story, it's part of the official timeline, Toriyama is involved, and we see characters getting developed (Goku & Vegeta), and even the Dragon World is developed (there are the Haiakishin, and 11 more universes with possibly stronger guys than Beers & Whis). Not saying that it's canon to the manga, but it's obviously intended to be part of the story we see in the manga & anime, and not in a parallel world like the other movies.RandomGuy96 wrote:I do: BOG is a movie.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Huh... I suppose that is true. No movie has ever tried to stay true to the story except for this one.
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Isn't GT included in the Choezenshu timeline along with Battle of Gods?
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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Yes. I guess Goku doesn't have the God power in GT because he turned into a child, which made him lose control of the God power & left him unable to use it. Or most simply, if Ultimate Gohan & Gotenks can be omitted, then Super Saiyan God can be omitted as well. It's GT.dbzfan7 wrote:Isn't GT included in the Choezenshu timeline along with Battle of Gods?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Seems unfair to just say it's GT so who cares.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Yes. I guess Goku doesn't have the God power in GT because he turned into a child, which made him lose control of the God power & left him unable to use it. Or most simply, if Ultimate Gohan & Gotenks can be omitted, then Super Saiyan God can be omitted as well. It's GT.dbzfan7 wrote:Isn't GT included in the Choezenshu timeline along with Battle of Gods?
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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Yeah but Data Books make mistakes too. If BOG and GT are apart of the same timeline then Gohan would have turn Mystic in the show. He fought off Rildo in his base form, went SSj against Super 17 and Super Yi Xing Long.dbzfan7 wrote:Isn't GT included in the Choezenshu timeline along with Battle of Gods?
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Even so just saying it's GT so who cares is not a fair answer, it's a lazy one.Hellspawn28 wrote:Yeah but Data Books make mistakes too. If BOG and GT are apart of the same timeline then Gohan would have turn Mystic in the show. He fought off Rildo in his base form, went SSj against Super 17 and Super Yi Xing Long.dbzfan7 wrote:Isn't GT included in the Choezenshu timeline along with Battle of Gods?
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As other people have said, GT is quite inconsistent. We are just gonna have to assume that, for whatever reason, Goku lost access to his God powers sometime prior to GT.
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Maybe he gave it up? Or somehow made it apart of his base form only which increases with SSJ. I can see GT doing something like that.TheMightyOzaru wrote:As other people have said, GT is quite inconsistent. We are just gonna have to assume that, for whatever reason, Goku lost access to his God powers sometime prior to GT.
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If we were to assume he kept SSJ God, that means he can power up his "SSJ God" form by going SSJ2, SSJ3, and SSJ4. I highly doubt he could.
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I'm talking in GT only. It seems like something TOei would do.TheMightyOzaru wrote:If we were to assume he kept SSJ God, that means he can power up his "SSJ God" form by going SSJ2, SSJ3, and SSJ4. I highly doubt he could.
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Why do people even mix BoG and GT together? It's almost impossible to fit them into the same timeline.
GT was made like 16-17 years before BoG. The two are like Water and Oil
Well, continuing on with the thread. GT Base Goku (Post 100 Years of Training) VS SSJ4 Gogeta.
GT was made like 16-17 years before BoG. The two are like Water and Oil
Well, continuing on with the thread. GT Base Goku (Post 100 Years of Training) VS SSJ4 Gogeta.
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Impossible to tell who would win since we never saw Goku in action post-Shadow Dragon arc. We don't know how much stronger Goku got over 100 years and I doubt he can handle a SSj4 fusion in base form.Gogeta8001 wrote:GT Base Goku (Post 100 Years of Training) VS SSJ4 Gogeta.
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Don't forget there's still about 10 years chronologically between Battle of Gods and GT. Plenty of time for things to happen in sequels. Don't count anything out ahead of time.
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GT is nonsensical trash... for the most part I hate it. The DBO timeline Toriyama helped come up with also contradicts it.
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I didn't "just" say it's GT. I first gave a complete logical theory.dbzfan7 wrote:Seems unfair to just say it's GT so who cares.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Yes. I guess Goku doesn't have the God power in GT because he turned into a child, which made him lose control of the God power & left him unable to use it. Or most simply, if Ultimate Gohan & Gotenks can be omitted, then Super Saiyan God can be omitted as well. It's GT.dbzfan7 wrote:Isn't GT included in the Choezenshu timeline along with Battle of Gods?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Saiyan Arc Goku vs Vegeta in this situation.
Fight follows the manga until Vegeta makes his power ball. But, before he can transform, it starts raining, and the clouds block the Blutz Waves (or something like that.) So he's forced to fight Goku in his weakened state. Who wins?
Fight follows the manga until Vegeta makes his power ball. But, before he can transform, it starts raining, and the clouds block the Blutz Waves (or something like that.) So he's forced to fight Goku in his weakened state. Who wins?
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Imperfect Cell (Ginger Town) vs SSJ Vegeta (Androids Saga) super mad but it doesn't increase his power. He is just mad and fights like "WWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAA"