The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[TheMightyOzaru]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-MrJF3dHzE

This proves what exactly?

That Vegeta cries for help...

How...? Goku got his shit wrecked just like Vegeta did.

[Super Vegetto]

Vegeta got beaten in like 2 hits, while Goku took much more damage and continued the fight.

Also don't forget movie 7 (because they still didn't went in Rosat). Goku had equal fight with Android 13, while Vegeta barly managed to beat Android 15.

And you have movie 8...

[TheMightyOzaru]

Except he didn't get beaten in 2 hits... That wasn't the full fight first of all. Secondly, Goku couldn't even budge Cooler when he had Goku by the throat. The only thing that happens in this fight is Vegeta getting blindsided a few times because he can't keep up with the Shunkan Idou. Vegeta is still stronger in Movie 7. Just because C-13 is the leader of the bunch, doesn't mean he's a lot stronger than C-14 and C-15. Goku was also having a lot of trouble with C-13 actually.

[Saitou Hajime]

Goku was the only one who didn't improve after turning SSJ against the androids.

[Super Vegetto]

Going by feats, Cooler hits Goku couple of times and Goku counters with KHH.

Cooler hits Vegeta 2 times and he is out cold.

The point is that Dbz movies always make Vegeta looking weaker, because he is suposed to be weaker in movies when Goku is around.

The same thing is with Gohan. When Goku is not around, Gohan takes main role and he is strongest (followed by Vegeta).

It's the circle of Movie life...

[TheMightyOzaru]

The difference is he gets blind sided. Look what happens to Cooler when he's not expecting to get hit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-MrJF3dHzE
Skip to 2:18
Goku, with all his power can't get Cooler to let go of his neck as a SSJ. Vegeta knocks him down in his base form. Getting blind sided can cause severe damage.

[Saitou Hajime]

Going by feats, Cooler hits Goku couple of times and Goku counters with KHH.

Cooler hits Vegeta 2 times and he is out cold.

Cooler blindsided Vegeta after coming out Shunkaido. Cooler attacked Goku upfront and doesn't even hit him in the last attack, he just tosses him aside.

[Super Vegetto]

But he didn't kicked him so hard like Cooler kicked him. He was in Goku's arms, not standing next moment, like Goku.

It's obvious that we can't go by feats sometimes, but Toei always makes Goku putting up a better fight and lasting longer in movies...

[TheMightyOzaru]

But he didn't kicked him so hard like Cooler kicked him.

What?

[Super Vegetto]

Oh my bad.

Vegeta didn't got hit with less power, and by same kind of hits Goku continued the fight.

Vegeta managed to chatch him off guard and kick wasn't anything special. Cooler was standing next moment, not kissing dirt...

[TheMightyOzaru]

Vegeta was also in his base form . 2 blind side shots from someone a good deal stronger than you would hurt like a bitch.

[Super Vegetto]

Vegeta was also in his base form . 2 blind side shots from someone a good deal stronger than you would hurt like a bitch.

Goku also didn't expected Cooler's movment after he restored his arm...

[TheMightyOzaru]

Vegeta was also in his base form . 2 blind side shots from someone a good deal stronger than you would hurt like a bitch.

Goku also didn't expected Cooler's movment after he restored his arm...

Goku wasn't blind sided though. Cooler was just faster than he expected.

[Saitou Hajime]

As already mentioned, Goku wasn't blindsided and Cooled opted to toss him aside rather than continue hitting him, that's the only reason he could get up to continue getting his ass kicked. Mind you, despite being allegedly "knocked out" Vegeta was the first to recover after Cooler blasted them, and he was the last to fall after they "won" despite the fact that he expended the most energy delivering the kill shot.

[Kakashi]

Goku is always > Vegeta in movies. Movie 6 Vegeta is suposed to be > Goku, yet he isn't.
Daiz says that 16 is strongest android besides Cell...

Movie 6 Vegeta > Movie 6 Goku because they are the ones who fought Android 19

Super 13 is not a creation of Gero and the Daiz probably says Android 16 is the strongest besides Cell because it talks about the series

This is Toei we're talking about. Vegeta got his ASS kicked by Cooler. Goku at least put up a decent fight. Especially compared to Vegeta.

What are you talking about? Vegeta did better when he started fighting Meta Cooler

Goku even tanks Vegeta in the end of the movie and says he could not of won without his power which implies he is stronger

Nothing says Vegeta is not stronger so it remains a fact like in the series

Super Vegetto, M7 Piccolo > M7 Goku

M1 Enraged Gohan > M1 Goku

M9 Gohan > M9 Goku

M8 Goku is the strongest because Gohan was not known to be stronger than him at that time and they were much weaker than in the Cell Games. Feats mean nothing for TOEI and Vegeta did better when he first fought Cooler. M6 Vegeta > M6 Goku

[Kaboom]

Kakashi, PLEASE stop double-posting, PLEASE learn to stop nesting so many quotes in each other, and PLEASE work on your spelling and grammar. Regardless of your opinions on in-universe stuff, your posts are just plain atrocious and painful to read.

[dbzfan7]

Kakashi, PLEASE stop double-posting, PLEASE learn to stop nesting so many quotes in each other, and PLEASE work on your spelling and grammar. Regardless of your opinions on in-universe stuff, your posts are just plain atrocious and painful to read.

Why is it so hard to not double post?

[TheMightyOzaru]

Kakashi, PLEASE stop double-posting, PLEASE learn to stop nesting so many quotes in each other, and PLEASE work on your spelling and grammar. Regardless of your opinions on in-universe stuff, your posts are just plain atrocious and painful to read.

Thank you! Finally someone tells him to cut the multi-posting crap!

[TheGmGoken]

Videl vs Nam

Tuffles(With technology) vs Saiyan Arc Heroes(Goku can't use Kaioken but have Genki Dama/i)b

[TheMightyOzaru]

Nam, and Saiyan arc characters.