Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Post by singsing » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:22 am

Drayenko wrote:Yes I am. "Poop joke" is very specific, and there's probably like 4 of those jokes in the whole series. It makes no sense to condense everything around THAT.
FatNagger69 wrote:I said it's a part of the series. Lighthearted elements from Dragon Ball will be part of the new movie, because that's part of what the series is. Acting like it's inappropriate or completely out of place doesn't really make sense. Relax and enjoy.
Of course it is. I'm not trying to come off as a "Dragon Ball is hardcore bla bla bla." The 2008 special is extremely lighthearted and is the best thing that has been done the past few years, because that feels like what Dragon Ball is.
There's no way you're being serious right? "poop joke" is a figure of speech indicating that DB is supposed to be a fun, lighthearted series. You're not meant to take that literally.

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Post by sintzu » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:23 am

Chuquita wrote:Re: Chapter 1 cover

Has Vegeta ever been in the center of a big group shot like this staring off against the main villain and not been the main character at that particular time ?
No,this is the first time we get him this way.

And other then that if this was a Goku movie they would be doing A LOT more marketing with it which isn't the case now,if anything it's like they don't want people to know about it.
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Freeza said he wanted to kill him so chances are he'll be in it.
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Well, there was an interview (I can't find it now) where Akira said Kakarot realized that mastering Super Saiyan would increase his strength more than what Super Saiyan 2 and Super Saiyan 3 could give, or something like that.
He said due to him absorbing the power of Ssjg he doesn't need those 2 any more and from what we know it looks like he doesn't need ssj1 either.

In terms of Vegeta he never mentioned him or the form he was in.
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Post by Drayenko » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:24 am

Well, I don't like it. And just like everybody can express themselves by using it, I can express my discontent towards it.

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Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:26 am

Anyway, is anyone excited about the prospect of hearing Chris Ayres voicing Freeza in the movie? He's such a perfect English Freeza. He's almost on par with Ryusei Nakao. I can't believe he voiced Freeza in Kai, let alone in this film. It definitely feels like I'm dreaming. With the improved cast in addition to Ayres, this may be the best Dragon Ball movie to date.
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Post by Big Momma » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:26 am

Kakarot9001 wrote: We fans that grew up watching the series want more than fights and enemies with overwhelming powers coming from nowhere beating the crap out of our favorite characters, we want a good story, with great character development, with funny scenes but also serious and dark scenes too, that's the essence of Dragon Ball, pal it's not like cartoons you see in Nickelodeon that you just watch don't giving a shit for the story and rest, my opinion
"Not taking it seriously" is not the same as thinking the entire series is just a joke. I grew up with the show as well, and my opinion is that it shouldn't be taken too seriously. Fans should never take a show more seriously than the creator does, especially when the creator also made something like Dr. Slump and is known for forgetting things about his own series.
This is... just no.

Dragon Ball is not a poop joke series, I don't care if this website promotes that. That is not Dragon Ball.

And Toriyama can be whatever, but he's always been extremely consistent with power levels, so yeah. Powers levels do matter, even if they don't to some people. They ARE part of the series and you can't take that away.
It is a poop joke series. And if "poop joke" is too specific, then just replace it with "Toilet humor" or "Low Brow comedy".

Sure, and Krillin dying for the first time is part of Dragon Ball too. It that's a joke, cool then.
It has serious moments, but that doesn't mean it's origins, and a big part of it's continued run, wasn't comedy.
Freeza having a body in Hell and the fact that he can jump from initial Super Saiyan tier to beyond Super Saiyan Vegetto tier in 4 months are very interesting subjects.
Those are interesting, but I've seen people getting legitimately angry looking for some sort of In-Universe reason while there may not be one other than "Hey, Freeza's got this huge latent strength that can come out when he decides to seriously train." And I understand if that's not satisfying but...idk, it's just whatever. In reality, they probably just BS'd a reason to bring Freeza back. I imagine that the whole point of this movie is to have a popular villain come back and face our heroes again. The reasons how and why just aren't that important to me. I'm just here to watch the fights/interactions.

I'm just trying to say that you can't define it under "poop joke." That's like if I were to say Dragon Ball is a Satanist series because there is this guy that's called Mr. Satan, therefore it promotes the devil.
That's really not the same comparison. DB is a "Poop Joke" series because it features jokes about poop. It doesn't feature Satanism or any Satanic beliefs (that I know of), and Mr. Satan isn't even really Satan. It's just his name.
I think you guys are overreacting and taking Big Momma's comment out of context. Pretty sure he was meaning that the series is absurd and simple at its core, and isn't meant to be the subject of such intense scrutiny and absolutely unchanging, consistent algorithmic rules.
That's basically what I'm getting at, thank you.
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Post by Scarz » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:27 am

Drayenko wrote:Yes I am. "Poop joke" is very specific, and there's probably like 4 of those jokes in the whole series. It makes no sense to condense everything around THAT.
FatNagger69 wrote:I said it's a part of the series. Lighthearted elements from Dragon Ball will be part of the new movie, because that's part of what the series is. Acting like it's inappropriate or completely out of place doesn't really make sense. Relax and enjoy.
Of course it is. I'm not trying to come off as a "Dragon Ball is hardcore bla bla bla." The 2008 special is extremely lighthearted and is the best thing that has been done the past few years, because that feels like what Dragon Ball is.
Okay, I think I get were you're coming from. DB is not completely a slap stick "poop" comedy (like Dr. Slump) but can still be lighthearted in nature. But from reading your replies, it seemed like you were saying DB is serious business.

I still believe you're taking it too serious though, (I got the impression that you think power levels matters. Correct me if I'm wrong).

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Post by Chuquita » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:27 am

sintzu wrote:
Chuquita wrote:Re: Chapter 1 cover

Has Vegeta ever been in the center of a big group shot like this staring off against the main villain and not been the main character at that particular time ?
No,this is the first time we get him this way.

And other then that if this was a Goku movie they would be doing A LOT more marketing with it which isn't the case now,if anything it's like they don't want people to know about it.
Very cool then! :3

Also; wandering CDJapan and found this (link is to Amazon because they have audio samples) : http://www.amazon.com/Horikawa-Ryo-No-A ... B00P22G230

Apparently Horikawa put out a mini-album last November of him covering anime theme songs. I now want Vegeta to have a character song in this movie somehow. :3
(Bingo was fun and awkward, but not something he could really belt out. I'm thinking more along the "Cooking Hell" song's lines.)


Re: Gokû movie

This is also why I'm leaning towards this being The Vegeta Movie.
If this comes true; I feel like it'll be way easier for Funi to market in the U.S. I feel like Vegeta's way more popular in the U.S. than Gokû.
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Post by singsing » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:27 am

Drayenko wrote:Well, I don't like it. And just like everybody can express themselves by using it, I can express my discontent towards it.
Your discontent... towards an expression by taking that expression literally?

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Post by Retan » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:28 am

What's so special about chris ayers? I've seen Kai in english, and didn't think much of him as Freeza. :?

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Post by Drayenko » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:30 am

I do think they matter. Not the NUMBERS as in Battle Power readings from scouters, but they matter as in making sense and having a progression throughout the series that "makes sense."

I hope I'm making myself clear...
singsing wrote: Your discontent... towards an expression by taking that expression literally?
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Post by Scarz » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:35 am

Drayenko wrote:I do think they matter. Not the NUMBERS as in Battle Power readings from scouters, but they matter as in making sense and having a progression throughout the series that "makes sense."

I hope I'm making myself clear...
So you're saying "power levels" in terms of how strong a character is against another, or compared to how he/she was compared to where they started in the series. And not arbitrary numbers. I can understand that.

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Post by EmmaWinters » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:36 am

Retan wrote:What's so special about chris ayers? I've seen Kai in english, and didn't think much of him as Freeza. :?
He sounds somewhat similar to Nakao, and helped give Freeza his first accurate portrayal in English.
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Post by Big Momma » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:37 am

Retan wrote:What's so special about chris ayers? I've seen Kai in english, and didn't think much of him as Freeza. :?
He's better than Linda Young to a lot of people.
I do think they matter. Not the NUMBERS as in Battle Power readings from scouters, but they matter as in making sense and having a progression throughout the series that "makes sense."

I hope I'm making myself clear...
I understand what you're saying. I dunno, I personally don't have any trouble understanding the progression of strength without using Power Levels. Eh well.
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Post by Mewzard » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:38 am

I can't wait to see more from the manga adaptation, and get a few clarifications on the story from Kanzenshuu.

I wonder if Freeza will have any new techniques, or interesting surprises in store for our heroes.

I'm still half expecting Freeza to use a sword on Trunks if he sees him.
Retan wrote:What's so special about chris ayers? I've seen Kai in english, and didn't think much of him as Freeza. :?
Wonderful acting, a very fitting voice (and a script with great dialogue certainly helps). He's about as good as we could hope for an English Freeza.

And I really can't wait to hear his voice in the dub of the movie (I saw Battle of Gods in theaters *I waited for the official release in the US*, and I'm going to see this in theaters when it comes out).
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Post by sintzu » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:39 am

Chuquita wrote:
Apparently Horikawa put out a mini-album last November of him covering anime theme songs. I now want Vegeta to have a character song in this movie somehow. :3
(Bingo was fun and awkward, but not something he could really belt out. I'm thinking more along the "Cooking Hell" song's lines.)

This is also why I'm leaning towards this being The Vegeta Movie.

If this comes true; I feel like it'll be way easier for Funi to market in the U.S. I feel like Vegeta's way more popular in the U.S. than Gokû.
With this being a special occasion for him we might get something.

These are other reasons to why I think this is a Vegeta movie :
Chris Sabat will be happy that's for sure.
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Post by Retan » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:39 am

LoL that must be hard to do for a lot of people!! :lol:
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Post by Drayenko » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:40 am

Big Momma wrote:
I understand what you're saying. I dunno, I personally don't have any trouble understanding the progression of strength without using Power Levels. Eh well.
Oh yeah, I don't care about the numbers. I guess there was a misconception on my part, sorry.

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Post by Retan » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:40 am

Retan wrote:LoL that must be hard to do for a lot of people!! :lol:

Be a better freeza then Young I mean.

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Post by Dyno » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:42 am

Mewzard wrote:I can't wait to see more from the manga adaptation, and get a few clarifications on the story from Kanzenshuu.
Eer... Should we consider this manga made by Toyotaro? I kind of feel that a lot of people are actually bringing it to the "canon zone" based on how serious they are taken it. But that might be just me having a wrong view of it.

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Post by Big Momma » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:42 am

Drayenko wrote:
Big Momma wrote:
I understand what you're saying. I dunno, I personally don't have any trouble understanding the progression of strength without using Power Levels. Eh well.
Oh yeah, I don't care about the numbers. I guess there was a misconception on my part, sorry.
No worries, dude. :thumbup:
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