Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Dbzfan94]

What if the reason Freeza gets so powerful so fast is the boost from the new form?
He went from. 530,000 all the way to 120,000,000. With a fifth form alone without training would be a huge boost. So with training it should be even bigger.

My theory is Vegeta is about to get the ritual but Freeza steals it somehow. And I doubt Freeza would keep he god power (unlike Goku) and then Vegeta beats him that way.

[VegettoEX]

Pretty much every question that everyone is asking here is asked by characters via actual dialog in Toyotaro's manga, and therefore likely the movie itself.

Chill the eff out, everyone!

[TheDevilsCorpse]

What if the reason Freeza gets so powerful so fast is the boost from the new form?
He went from. 530,000 all the way to 120,000,000. With a fifth form alone without training would be a huge boost. So with training it should be even bigger.

I'm not ruling out an actual transformation, like Coola had. That's not how Freeza's forms work though. He was apparently born at 120 million (or grew to that without training at least) and created the "transformations" to make himself weaker so he could control his power during everyday life; they aren't necessarily a natural ability of his race or anything in the manga.

[Low Tone G]

Freeza only need 4 months to defeat God in the seconds.

I suppose Freeza was referring to a hypothetical Boo-level Goku, not SSGod Goku.

Yeah.... I don't think the mention that other datas than Goku defeated Majin Buu has not been collected is made for nothing. Freeza will underestimate Goku to be only a Majin Buu punisher, when in reality he is the 3rd strongest being in the Universe. Maybe he can upgrade himself in short time if he is prodigy to a Super Vegetto level, but it will turn out that he was wrong that he can beat Goku only by traning. I expect that during the training it will turn out that Goku became a Super Saiyan God, and his level won't be enough to be a match for Goku.

And for the other.... Piccolo comments on Freeza's power to be in a different leage. But it turned out in BOG that Piccolo isn't able to detect God Ki(only know heard about it, but can not measure it), so Freeza must be a very powerful being in the begining, but not a Godly powerful one.

[vegitot]

Freeza only need 4 months to defeat God in the seconds.

I suppose Freeza was referring to a hypothetical Boo-level Goku, not SSGod Goku.

So Goku will destroy freeza by sneezing

[Doctor.]

What if the reason Freeza gets so powerful so fast is the boost from the new form?
He went from. 530,000 all the way to 120,000,000. With a fifth form alone without training would be a huge boost. So with training it should be even bigger.

I'm not ruling out an actual transformation, like Coola had. That's not how Freeza's forms work though. He was apparently born at 120 million (or grew to that without training at least) and created the "transformations" to make himself weaker so he could control his power during everyday life; they aren't natural.

Plot twist: his real form is the one he's gonna show in the movie and it was sealed away because it was too powerful

[Kakarot9001]

I would be really glad if Hinorubo Kageyama and Shunsuke Kikuchi were working in this movie musical score

I mean, BOG sucked for several reasons and that's one of those, Kageyama and Kikuchi are the soul of the DB series

[Doctor.]

BoG was a brilliant commemoration of all things Dragon Ball, but that's a story for a different day.

[Chuquita]

Screenshots, even unfinished ones like those linked, make meet happy. X3
Saw an about 1:07:00 time stamp on one, so it's at least that long.

[Gyt Kaliba]

While I would definitely never say no to the return of Kikuchi (though I'm not banking on it ever happening either, outside of them just re-using stuff I mean), I - and I realize I'm likely standing alone on this - don't think I'd be near as excited to have Kageyama back. Don't get me wrong, I like his work, but...with the tons of songs he's already done for the franchise over the years, it all just starts to run together in my head after a while.

Now, if getting Kageyama back involved Jam Project, meaning we didn't just get him, but we also got Masaaki Endoh and Hiroshi Kitadani on board...THAT I could be on board for. Or heck, bring in Akira Kushida now that Toriko's failed.

[radrappy]

I love how some people just can't accept any of the myriad of explanations as to why Freeza is much stronger now, but didn't question how Gero managed to make ordinary humans stronger than Freeza with "technology" during the cell saga. If you've come to DB for "under a magnifying glass" levels of consistency, you're definitely barking up the wrong tree. The man is practically legendary for writing himself out of corners JUST LIKE THIS.

Never mind that the idea that Freeza hasn't trained a day in his life up until now is hilarious and 100% in character.

[SaiyanZ]

I don't believe the 4 months of training will be strict, traditional training. There's got to be some other condition that he's going to train under, something like training under "x" many times Earth's gravity or using some item or something else to raise his strength in that short a time. He seems so sure that he'll beat them in 4 months despite the whole deal about Majin Buu and Beerus, so it can't be traditional punching and kicking and ki blasting in the air.

[radrappy]

I don't believe the 4 months of training will be strict, traditional training. There's got to be some other condition that he's going to train under, something like training under "x" many times Earth's gravity or using some item or something else to raise his strength in that short a time. He seems so sure that he'll beat them in 4 months despite the whole deal about Majin Buu and Beerus, so it can't be traditional punching and kicking and ki blasting in the air.

It's probably 4 months straight of crunches set to "eye of the tiger."

[Retan]

So reading the first chapter notes on Kanzenshuu, I really enjoyed the first chapter, I don't know what it looked like but it sounded good. And still our Heroes haven't even appeared yet.

[Doctor.]

Besides the 4 month part that we don't know anything about yet, everything, and I mean everything, I was worried or confused about was addressed. I'm much happier now.

But damn, Freeza still lives after being cut in pieces, talk about resistance

[Dbzfan94]

What if the reason Freeza gets so powerful so fast is the boost from the new form?
He went from. 530,000 all the way to 120,000,000. With a fifth form alone without training would be a huge boost. So with training it should be even bigger.

I'm not ruling out an actual transformation, like Coola had. That's not how Freeza's forms work though. He was apparently born at 120 million (or grew to that without training at least) and created the "transformations" to make himself weaker so he could control his power during everyday life; they aren't necessarily a natural ability of his race or anything in the manga.

Yeah that's true I forgot that. But still he's at 120 million naturally. I don't think it's a stretch at all for him to get that strong that fast, in addition to a new form / god aura /etc

[Gyt Kaliba]

I didn't even know Kanzenshuu's notes were up yet. *reads as fast as he can*

And as expected, while the general info that was floating around was more or less on point, the 'official' write up here is definitely a lot more informative and inspiring as to what's going on. I'm sure this only further confirms worry for issues that others have, but this all still sounds pretty on point for me. Though admittedly, it still doesn't answer fully the question of whether Freeza has ever actually met Beerus, but rather he might just know of him. Maybe when Beerus went to meet King Vegeta, Freeza made it a point not to be there, since he was one of only two people he was warned not to mess with?

[Chuquita]

The summary does clear things up. I'm still wondering about Gokû and Vegeta, but I'm sure we'll eventually find out.

[EA575]

So it was his dad he was referring to when talking about Buu. Makes a lot more sense now.

[Dyno]

I want to read the chapter on the Kanzenshuu notes, but I don't want to get spoiled. Somebody help me!