Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

[Alruneia]

U6 saiyans

They don't deserve to be in the movie

I wouldn't go as far as to say that the characters don't deserve it, but it wouldn't make any sense for them to be in the movie, as Universe 6 isn't relevant to the plot at all. Kale might be mentioned by Goku in a comparison to Broly, but no one should be expecting anything more than that.

[Dragon Ball Gus]

I'm still mad that they announced Nappa and Raditz for the movie before Caulifla and Kale. That's a load of BS.

There's no reason for them to appear.

Well, this movie is all about the Saiyan race, and they're Saiyans.

[Chuquita]

Re: Herms's translation of the Nakao interview from earlier today

I've got mixed thoughts on Freeza, but the emotions aren't as strong as they are with last week's VegeBul thing so.....while I'm tired of Freeza returning again and again and again I can't totally be against it because at least during the ToP they wrote Freeza tremendously well and that was his most recent outing so I'm of the mind where I feel like Freeza could continue being really entertaining to watch in the movie even though I'd also be happy with them finally writing him out of the main storyline and moving onto a new villain/antagonist.

[RecolorSaiyan]

I'm still mad that they announced Nappa and Raditz for the movie before Caulifla and Kale. That's a load of BS.

There's no reason for them to appear.

Well, this movie is all about the Saiyan race, and they're Saiyans.

So are gohan, trunks, goten, pan , bulla, and F Trunks and the former 5 are actually in the universe where the movie is set

[YamiGoku]

I'm still mad that they announced Nappa and Raditz for the movie before Caulifla and Kale. That's a load of BS.

There's no reason for them to appear.

Well, this movie is all about the Saiyan race, and they're Saiyans.

This movie is about the history of universe 7 Saiyans and Frieza and the reunion of the 3 saiyans on present day, I like the universe 6 saiyans but i don't see why would they appear on this movie.

[FortuneSSJ]

Re: Herms's translation of the Nakao interview from earlier today

I've got mixed thoughts on Freeza, but the emotions aren't as strong as they are with last week's VegeBul thing so.....while I'm tired of Freeza returning again and again and again I can't totally be against it because at least during the ToP they wrote Freeza tremendously well and that was his most recent outing so I'm of the mind where I feel like Freeza could continue being really entertaining to watch in the movie even though I'd also be happy with them finally writing him out of the main storyline and moving onto a new villain/antagonist.

And the next villain turned out to be Broly, so we still aren't save of having old villains return.

[PFM18]

I'm still mad that they announced Nappa and Raditz for the movie before Caulifla and Kale. That's a load of BS.

But what makes you think Caulifla and Kale will even appear? They don't really fit into this whole thing very well.

[Chuquita]

Re: Herms's translation of the Nakao interview from earlier today

I've got mixed thoughts on Freeza, but the emotions aren't as strong as they are with last week's VegeBul thing so.....while I'm tired of Freeza returning again and again and again I can't totally be against it because at least during the ToP they wrote Freeza tremendously well and that was his most recent outing so I'm of the mind where I feel like Freeza could continue being really entertaining to watch in the movie even though I'd also be happy with them finally writing him out of the main storyline and moving onto a new villain/antagonist.

And the next villain turned out to be Broly, so we still aren't save of having old villains return.

This is true. We still don't even know how much different this Brolli is from the old one.

I'd like to hope that when Super does return to TV that they do have a new villain again at some point.

[Shaddy]

Bringing him back just to kill him again was a mistake of RoF, but bringing him back at the end of Super clearly had a different intent than to just kill him off again in a different movie. I have the feeling Freeza was revived to be the recurring villain who gains his own strength and allies, training parallel to the heroes, probablyas setup for being the final villain. Which makes sense, having more a gallery-of-rouges of more distinct villains is a good step toward minimizing the series' longstanding narrative escalation issue. So mister Nakao may be getting the opposite of his hopes.

[Melkaniator]

The fact that he hasn't it was all that matters.

Not really. Again, it's never too late to start.

The fact that he doesn't have it shows it's not necessary.

And no, I don't think something silver in his attire would look good, Broly has it's matching SS hair pelt, and it looks horrible.

When you've yet to provide any reasoning as to why this supposedly is, I can't in good faith say "yeah, now it all makes sense".

You don't need to though.

Goku doesn't need anything silver on him just because his hair can turn silver.

Being a deal breaker is besides the point, having Goku and Vegeta return to their old attires instead of the (finally) new attires wasn't a deal breaker for me either, doesn't change the fact that it was a bad idea.

If it's "deal-breaker" status isn't the point, why is it so important you make it a point of how much you hate this thing for such obviously disproportionate reasons?

Who says it's so important?

You take it as something important that has to be on an argument apparently, I'm here just expressing my opinion, you're the one that wants me to defend my every point of view.

I disagree completely.

Most cards are from decent to awesome art, the Ultra Instinct one shown at the end before the DBH logo hits in their recent trailers is beautiful art, the Broly movie ones are the subpar ones.

Plus Heroes changed Vegetto's attire accordingly with Goku and Vegeta's attire at the time of fusion, and Goku: Xeno has a great new design, better work than Super in many of their designs.

Well I have to say I can't in good faith agree with that at all. Even if I didn't dislike Heroes on a conceptual level, I don't think any of it's characters look very good. They still stick to Yamamuro's stiff design traits, and they're covered in distracting glowy shit and effects. Either way, that really has nothing to do with the movie. I didn't judge Infinity War on the quality of it's promotional coloring book.

The promotional coloring book example is in the oranges and apples area of comparisons.

The art of Broly movie DBH cards have the art of the movie, coloring books are too different to Infinity War.

False.

I also said that the movie "will not explore anything I'm interested in" as in I don't really care about Broly, you might think it's too soon to tell, but going of by what they've done in Super, I kinda can tell when something will not be interesting to me.

That really isn't what you said, though. Not so long as you've been yelling at me.

"Yelling" cute.

If you decided to start an argument with me, read the full post 1st, because that's clearly in the section I talked about my issues with this movie.

#1) You'll just keep missing the point apparently.

I know you really, really want to say this enough for it to be true, but I'm not actually going to let you operate under that misconception. I've listened and responded. You've chosen to ignore that because it makes it easier to attack.

Attack?

You can live in your bubble if you so wish to, but the fact is that you claim it's all in the design only, when the post that started all this proves you wrong.

Wasn't the intention, if you feel inferior that's on you.

Nice meme

Nice fact.

And no, I'm not using this with anyone that's actually paying attention, you would know that if...

...well, if you paid attention.

I CLEARLY posted it was a "combination" if you didn't paid attention to that it's not me trying to "look superior" in anyway, but just me pointing what you did wrong at the time.

Besides the fact that it's still way too minor nitpicks for me to be able to see from your perspective (along with the whole "no elaboration" thing), I'm not sure what you're having trouble understanding about me thinking it's a bit of a silly overreaction, that's basically all I've said this whole time. You are trying to give a false sense of superiority, by the way, because you don't actually have anything else to stand on here. You're repeating a rhetoric of "you're not listening" and "it just DOES though" to avoid actually arguing anything.

You're the one avoiding the fact that I put there that this movie isn't going to explore anything I'm interested in.

And still claiming I'm trying to give a "false sense of superiority" and evidently I'm not, thus it's all on your head.

Feeling inferior?

Not my problem.

[Shaddy]

The fact that he doesn't have it shows it's not necessary.

No it doesn't. A lack of consistency or synchronization is part of why modern Dragon Ball's colors are so fucking awful.

You don't need to though.'

Goku doesn't need anything silver on him just because his hair can turn silver.

The series doesn't "need" to do anything. It's Dragon Ball, it prints money. However, I want better color design. I'll applaud anything that moves toward it, and Broly's hair was an eyesore to begin with.

Who says it's so important?

You take it as something important that has to be on an argument apparently, I'm here just expressing my opinion, you're the one that wants me to defend my every point of view.

Because this is a place of discussion? When you basically just go "Y'ALL WRONG I SAY IT'S SHIT", I'm not sure what exactly you expected in response. It's not like there wasn't any opportunity to just ignore any response altogether. I don't think it's too much to ask for some elaboration.

The promotional coloring book example is in the oranges and apples area of comparisons.

The art of Broly movie DBH cards have the art of the movie, coloring books are too different to Infinity War.

The art on the cards is drawn by separate artists, it's only as tangentially related to the movie as Heroes itself is promotional game material for Dragon Ball in general. A coloring book is also promotional material with art drawn by artists. Heroes has a lot more to it, but it's not any more relevant to THIS film than a coloring book is to Infinity War.

"Yelling" cute.

If you decided to start an argument with me, read the full post 1st, because that's clearly in the section I talked about my issues with this movie.

You're the one avoiding the fact that I put there that this movie isn't going to explore anything I'm interested in.

I've responded to what you've said to me. You supposedly having been more thoughtful toward someone else in the past isn't really relevant to that. You never actually brought that up until it provided an easy-out "WELL IT'S JUST MY OPINION" to deflect any criticism, and it's still not really an excuse when your immediate response to someone disagreeing was "UGH imagine liking this shit, WOW".

Attack?

You can live in your bubble if you so wish to, but the fact is that you claim it's all in the design only, when the post that started all this proves you wrong.

I'm honestly not sure how to respond to this one. I mean, it's a misrepresentation of what I've said to be sure, but shallow enough that I can't really properly argue it.

You win that round, I guess.

And still claiming I'm trying to give a "false sense of superiority" and evidently I'm not, thus it's all on your head.

Do you really not see the hypocrisy in claiming that you're not deflecting or condescending to anyone at all and then immediately trying to make everything the other person's fault?

Feeling inferior?

Not my problem.

Are you deliberately misunderstanding me? Nobody condescending that hard actually succeeds in looking superior. They just look desperate.

[AnimeNation101]

I'm still mad that they announced Nappa and Raditz for the movie before Caulifla and Kale. That's a load of BS.

There's no reason for them to appear.

Well, this movie is all about the Saiyan race, and they're Saiyans.

U6 Saiyan race and U7 saiyan race are differnt saiyan races. And heck, this movie isn’t even about the U7 saiyan race. It’s specifically about the stories of Freeza, Goku, Vegeta, and Broly that lead them to the present day.

[RedHeat]

Just a question: Since we're about a week or so from the entire movie being spoiled, will anything be posted here? Including discussion.

[mahakaishin1991]

I'm still mad that they announced Nappa and Raditz for the movie before Caulifla and Kale. That's a load of BS.

This is a movie about the U7 saiyans and has consequences relating back to the genocide of the saiyans and the survivors. You think kale and Caulilfla, who have no stakes in this or relation to the incident, would take precedence over the actual survivors of the event?

Raditz and Nappa are getting flashbacks hence why Raditz is a child and Nappa is younger with hair, they arent even remotely likely to show up in this in a present day setting unless Goku goes full mad-lad when he gets the dragonballs and revives the entire saiyan race at the end of the film.... giving them a cameo at least makes sense.

Now if we get an arc or film going to U6 Sadala, then I could see why youd be mad if those two didnt show up at all.

[Chuquita]

Just a question: Since we're about a week or so from the entire movie being spoiled, will anything be posted here? Including discussion.

I'm sure someone will post spoilers on 5ch and someone else will translate them and post them here.

I don't think anyone from this board has tickets to the preview screening; they'd be talking about it otherwise unless they were instructed not to.

[Noah]

That's really interesting:

Spoiler:

Past Days:

Present Days:

Although I not a fan of the pink dress, it's nice to see this difference between the two designs and also as someone said before: the first time we'll see a Saiyan that had past his prime.

I'm so happy they're doing that special screening November 14th. December is usually a mess for me with the holidays so knowing all this movie's spoilers only two weeks from now is wonderful, imo!

What makes you believe that the third trailer will spoil everything that will happen on the movie?

BTW... Do they start to "confuse" people again with Broly having green hair in LSSJ most of the time and gold in other some other media?

Spoiler:

I personally prefer Broly with golden hair in his LSSJ transformation, but this got me wondering... This Broly has a tail? Cause if so, I hope that whenever he turns into a SSJ, he gets a golden colored tail, like Shallot (another ancient Saiyan).

[Chuquita]

I'm so happy they're doing that special screening November 14th. December is usually a mess for me with the holidays so knowing all this movie's spoilers only two weeks from now is wonderful, imo!

What makes you believe that the third trailer will spoil everything that will happen on the movie?

I didn't say anything about the third trailer. Aren't they doing a full preview screening of the entire movie on November 14th? Didn't you have to win a contest to get in to that preview screening?

[Noah]

Damn, that's huge... I though it was just another small trailer, but well then... Probably better now than on middle December. I would prefer to not be spoiled, but ever since RoF I couldn't avoid anything, not even from Super episodes, so I guess it's okay.

[Doctor.]

It's really surprising that they've already finished the movie so early considering the abysmal schedule Dragon Ball normally gets.

[ekrolo2]

It's really surprising that they've already finished the movie so early considering the abysmal schedule Dragon Ball normally gets.

Gotta make it look as purdy as possible to compensate for the script