Movie Questions

Dragon · Post by **Dragon** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 8:03 pm

I've been wondering a couple of things on the movies and timeline that Funi dubbed. First, what movies could fit into the dubbed timeline, right now, I can only think of The History of Trunks and Bardock the Father of Goku. Now, was Goku wished back to life before or after Nappa and Vegeta arrived on Earth? Was anyone killed before the truce made by Nappa and Vegeta? In the Broly movie, which I've never seen, does Goku have his halo and can Goten and Trunks go Super Saiyan?? Sorry if I'm asking really obvious questions, but I've hardly seen any of the movies and hardly any of the Saiyan Saga

. Oh, will any movies that couldn't fit in dubbed seasons 1 and 2 fit after Funi dubs it?

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 8:12 pm

Dragon wrote:I've been wondering a couple of things on the movies and timeline that Funi dubbed. First, what movies could fit into the dubbed timeline, right now, I can only think of The History of Trunks and Bardock the Father of Goku.

As far as I know, only movie 9 [Bojack Unbound], and movie 13 could fit into the anime timeline. Movie 9 because it happens between the 7 years of skipped storyline, and 13 because it happens after the end of DBZ, but before GT.

Now, was Goku wished back to life before or after Nappa and Vegeta arrived on Earth? Was anyone killed before the truce made by Nappa and Vegeta?

Goku was wished back to life before the Saiyans arrived, but it took him a long time to get from Kaio-Sama's planet back to Earth. Before Vegeta called the three hour break, Yamcha, Tenshinhan, and Chaozu were already dead.

In the Broly movie, which I've never seen, does Goku have his halo and can Goten and Trunks go Super Saiyan??

Broli actually appears in three movies, the first of which Goku is still alive, the second he encourages Gohan from the afterlife, the third he's not in at all. And yes, Goten and Trunks can both transform into Super Saiyan.

Oh, will any movies that couldn't fit in dubbed seasons 1 and 2 fit after Funi dubs it?

Dubbed or not, other than the two movies I mentioned, none of the movies could fit into the canon storyline. Hope that helps.

Dragon · Post by **Dragon** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 8:25 pm

Thanks Deus, that helps a bit. Which movie is number 13? I also forgot to ask if Videl could fly in the Broly (Broli) movie. I was asking because I'm trying to make my own filler thing and I was able to explain the Garlic Jr. movie and Cooler's Revenge. But, we can't just have Icarus show up with no introduction, so I thought we could have Tree of Might put when Goku was made alive but before Turles came. The filler there is (In the Buu saga, Goku got a leave from Otherworld so...) Goku gets to leave King Kai's planet for a day, but he was forced to return there since King Yemma hadn't signed him out of Other World. ... Would that work??

*PINHEAD* · Post by ***PINHEAD*** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 9:42 pm

A while back I said how that movie with Androids #13-15 might have happened, but only in one of the alternate timelines created by Trunks' and Cell's interference with time.

And that filler wouldn't work because Turles was in Tree of Might. So I don't really get what you're saying.

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 11:02 pm

Dragon wrote:Thanks Deus, that helps a bit. Which movie is number 13?

Movie 13 is "Ryû-Ken Bakuhatsu!! Gokû ga Yaraneba Dare ga Yaru" ("Dragon Fist Explosion!! If Goku Won't Do It, Who Will?") (Thanks EX' movie guide!) It's about when the monster Hiredurgan is released, and Tapion gives his sword to "chibi" Trunks.

I also forgot to ask if Videl could fly in the Broly (Broli) movie.

Yep; her hair is also short in that movie, and she only cut off her pigtails after she learned to fly, so presumably the movie would take place before the Tenkaichi tournament.

Goodluck trying to create your own filler to tie in all those movies, you'll need all the help you can get.

Dragon · Post by **Dragon** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 12:32 am

Heheh, thanks, I'll need it. My cousin is making a DBZ folder and I want to make it as intricate as possible.

*PINHEAD* wrote:A while back I said how that movie with Androids #13-15 might have happened, but only in one of the alternate timelines created by Trunks' and Cell's interference with time.

And that filler wouldn't work because Turles was in Tree of Might. So I don't really get what you're saying.

Well, I'm asking if Goku couldv'e gotten a leave from King Kai's planet to help train his friends, then Turles shows up and yada yada yada. Then, Goku has to go back to King Kai's planet to finish training. After that, he is wished back and the saiyans soon arrive. Goku later then catches up and starts the real fight with Nappa and Vegeta. Would that work, or are we still not on the same page??

Neon Z · Post by **Neon Z** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:25 am

Well, I'm asking if Goku couldv'e gotten a leave from King Kai's planet to help train his friends, then Turles shows up and yada yada yada. Then, Goku has to go back to King Kai's planet to finish training. After that, he is wished back and the saiyans soon arrive. Goku later then catches up and starts the real fight with Nappa and Vegeta. Would that work, or are we still not on the same page??

That wouldn't work because Goku didn't have a halo in the movie, and Gohan would have been training with Piccolo, not home with Chichi.

Dragon · Post by **Dragon** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 8:17 pm

Hmm, yeah, I see what you mean now, darn halos!

But I haven't seen the movie in a while, so go figure. Say, now that we're on the subject of movies that don't quite fit in, was Gohan a surprise to just Krillin, Bulma, Roshi, and Turtle? Or did Piccolo get surprised too? Because I had an idea, we all know that Dead Zone can't truely take place, right? So, what if Goku just told Krillin, after GJR was done away with, to just act surprised at the reunion! Unless Piccolo acts surprised in the movies, I think Dead Zone could work! But, does he get surprised, act like he kind of forgot, or does he seem like he knew about Gohan before? (Piccolo, I mean) Oh crap! I just saw A Hero's Legacy! Love it, love it, love it!!! But, I brought that up with a question in mind. Who is the guardian of Earth, since the four star ball isn't stone?? Surely Dende isn't still alive, I don't think Namekians live that long!

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:05 am

Dragon wrote:Surely Dende isn't still alive, I don't think Namekians live that long!

Kami lived for hundreds of years. So did Guru the Grand Elder, I believe.

El_Diablo · Post by **El_Diablo** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:56 pm

I believe Kami was over 900 when he fused with Piccolo.

Dende would be 150, max in the GT special

Ginyu Taiko · Post by **Ginyu Taiko** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:33 pm

What about humans? Although, Roshi's long life is explained, no mention is made of how Tao or Tsurusenin got as old as they did.

Tao was apparently 291 years old when he faced Goku!

Dragon · Post by **Dragon** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:13 am

I'm beginning to guess it's a plot hole. But yeah, thanks for the info, once again, I forget the ages thing as usual.

Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 8:26 am

Movie 3 couldn't possibly fit in during the training before the arrival of the Saiyans, as Goku uses (I believe) Kaiouken x10 in the movie, and he dcouldn't go that high before his intense training on the Nameckian-bound ship. Kaiouken x4 was his absolute maximum during the battle with Vegeta, and it put a lot of strain on his body. Kaiou even feared it would kill him, but it's not like he had another choise.

Sun_Wukong · Post by **Sun_Wukong** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:35 pm

why the movies wont fit

Movie 1- Krillin had already met Gohan
Movie 2- Goku knows Kaio Ken and Piccolo is alive
Movie 3- Ten,Yamucha, Chiaotsu, and Piccolo are alive, Goku has his Kaio symbol
Movie 4- Goku cant go SSJ
Movie 5- (not sure)
Movie 6- Dende is gaurdian but Gohan cant go SSJ, whoops -_-
Movie 7- There's no place in time for this movie to fit in
Movie 8- " "
Movie 9- 7 years after Cell
Movie 10- cant remember exactly
Movie 11- havent seen
Movie 12- do I really have to go into this one? there's too many errors to list
Movie 13- 10 years after Buu

I cant remember why movies 5 and 10 couldnt fit in. Couldnt 5 fit in 3 years before the androids? That would explain why Trunks and Vegeta werent there. And couldnt movie 10 fit in during the weeks of training for the Tournament before Goku came back? Couldnt 11 also be during the 10 years after buu?

Could someone explain why movies 5, 10, and 11 didnt fit?

Post by **VegettoEX** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:43 pm

I can always just link you to this specific thread, which should take care of any questions ^_~.

Endishiki · Post by **Endishiki** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:50 pm

Broli actually appears in three movies, the first of which Goku is still alive, the second he encourages Gohan from the afterlife, the third he's not in at all. And yes, Goten and Trunks can both transform into Super Saiyan.

Ah, ah, Goku does appear in the third movie! At the very end, Bubbles comes up to Goku eating away, as usual (on what appears to be Kaio's planetoid). Goku somehow learns, possibly through monkey telepathy, that Brolly is apparently causing trouble in Hell.

Goku stands up, saying something along the lines of "Same old Brolly..." before his tummy grumbles. He then says that he'll deal with it after he's done eating, and resumes his noshing. Bubbles looks on.

So, yes... not an important appearance at all, but one just the same... seems they couldn't finish it without an appearance from Goku. :p Though this does raise the question... are there two Brollys in Hell now?

Sun_Wukong · Post by **Sun_Wukong** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:17 pm

Nah, I'm pretty sure the Brolly in Movie 11 was an Android type thing. Like he was made from Brolly's remains when he fought Gohan on Earth or something.

SuperFusion · Post by **SuperFusion** » Fri Dec 10, 2004 1:42 am

Deus ex Machina wrote:
Dragon wrote:I've been wondering a couple of things on the movies and timeline that Funi dubbed. First, what movies could fit into the dubbed timeline, right now, I can only think of The History of Trunks and Bardock the Father of Goku.
As far as I know, only movie 9 [Bojack Unbound], and movie 13 could fit into the anime timeline. Movie 9 because it happens between the 7 years of skipped storyline, and 13 because it happens after the end of DBZ, but before GT.

Why would Trunks return to the timeline with everyone alive just to participate in the martial arts competition? That would be risking something to happen differently in time wouldn't it? Just as Android 16 was never to be released. Just like when Trunks was killed by Cell.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Fri Dec 10, 2004 2:13 am

Sun_Wukong wrote:Nah, I'm pretty sure the Brolly in Movie 11 was an Android type thing. Like he was made from Brolly's remains when he fought Gohan on Earth or something.

Really? I always thought the whole phrase "bio-warrior" meant Movie 11 Brolli was more like a clone of the original.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Fri Dec 10, 2004 4:54 am

SuperFusion wrote:
Deus ex Machina wrote:
Dragon wrote:I've been wondering a couple of things on the movies and timeline that Funi dubbed. First, what movies could fit into the dubbed timeline, right now, I can only think of The History of Trunks and Bardock the Father of Goku.
As far as I know, only movie 9 [Bojack Unbound], and movie 13 could fit into the anime timeline. Movie 9 because it happens between the 7 years of skipped storyline, and 13 because it happens after the end of DBZ, but before GT.
Why would Trunks return to the timeline with everyone alive just to participate in the martial arts competition? That would be risking something to happen differently in time wouldn't it? Just as Android 16 was never to be released. Just like when Trunks was killed by Cell.

Because he said he was going too. He came back to tell the others he'd defeated the Androids and Cell and probably just stuck around when he heard about the tournament to hang out with everyone a little longer.

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