"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

[Mnich]

Did I just saw UI Vegetto?

where?

Well, not sure but that silver hair looks like UI.

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[S3 Hendrix]

Now it is just missing Goku Junior and Vegeta Junior from the old part. Once Heroes have them, the cast will be completed (?). Only Dende knows when they will appear but hopefully in a nearer future than we think.

Once we get rid of the old cast, I really want Heroes to focus on Dragon Ball Online again, there are more characters to be added and I do want Android 9 to get more attention (mostly in response to Android 21 character).

I’d say it’s possible but probably not anytime soon(getting Goku jr and vegeta jr) because the game is supposed to take place around their life time(I know the only evidence to support this is VM which is its own continuity) but I still believe that’s what they’re goin’ for with the arcade game(atleast the trailers) that our world is just the dragon world in the far future and the arcade machines have time traveling properties so we can see the warriors of the past. Which would explain why we haven’t got either yet

[RichardKing2]

Wouldn't that just be SSB KKX10 Vegito?

[mahakaishin1991]

Did I just saw UI Vegetto?

where?

Well, not sure but that silver hair looks like UI.

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Looks more like they were trying to use a solid colour to depict the look of the kaioken on goku blue because they cant do it with lighting effects for whatever reason but an interesting visual point

[Majin Demigra]

So what's that giant turtle thing Demigra has?

[Steven Bloodriver]

So what's that giant turtle thing Demigra has?

Shirogame.

[shadowmaria]

That looks more like Super Saiyan Rosé (Kaioken) Vegetto than Ultra Instinct Vegetto, but I'll be pleased to be surprised

In the manga, Goku did mention Ultra Instinct, so it could be foreshadowing.

[Tai Lung]

Was it explained why Goku Xeno has adult body?
Or he wasn't turned into kid at all?

Goku Xeno isn’t GT Goku

I know that. But he got through GT events. And without Goku becoming a kid there would be no Black Star saga and Baby wouldn't be revealed and Goku wouldn't get SSj4.
That's why i am asking how it looked in his timeline.

something late but ..
the events of the battle of the gods happened .. for xeno goku
That means that Pilaf became good and did not ask for the initial wish and the black star dragon ball does not exist or that seems to be why Goku kept his adult age
basically it's a fusion of stories
https://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Goku:_Xeno

[sunsetshimmer]

Goku Xeno isn’t GT Goku

I know that. But he got through GT events. And without Goku becoming a kid there would be no Black Star saga and Baby wouldn't be revealed and Goku wouldn't get SSj4.
That's why i am asking how it looked in his timeline.

something late but ..
the events of the battle of the gods happened .. for xeno goku
That means that Pilaf became good and did not ask for the initial wish and the black star dragon ball does not exist or that seems to be why Goku kept his adult age
basically it's a fusion of stories
https://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Goku:_Xeno

It contradicts everything though. Without Kid Goku there would be no searching for Black Star balls and Baby wouldn't be discovered, Myuu wouldn't know Goku and so wouldn't create Super 17. It makes no sense.
Besides, is Pilaf really good lol? I don't think so. Even in RoF saga he was trying to get a wish. The only contradiction is that he isn't small in GT, but:
-He could make the same wish as a kid
-He might not even become a kid in Xeno timeline

[Tai Lung]

I know that. But he got through GT events. And without Goku becoming a kid there would be no Black Star saga and Baby wouldn't be revealed and Goku wouldn't get SSj4.
That's why i am asking how it looked in his timeline.

something late but ..
the events of the battle of the gods happened .. for xeno goku
That means that Pilaf became good and did not ask for the initial wish and the black star dragon ball does not exist or that seems to be why Goku kept his adult age
basically it's a fusion of stories
https://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Goku:_Xeno

It contradicts everything though. Without Kid Goku there would be no searching for Black Star balls and Baby wouldn't be discovered, Myuu wouldn't know Goku and so wouldn't create Super 17. It makes no sense.
Besides, is Pilaf really good lol? I don't think so. Even in RoF saga he was trying to get a wish. The only contradiction is that he isn't small in GT, but:
-He could make the same wish as a kid
-He might not even become a kid in Xeno timeline

they become friends of goten and trunks live in the bulma house ...
ROF does not exist in the continuity of xeno goku so it does not get ssj blue, frieza does not revive and pilaf stops trying to look for its desire, that anyway mai and shu no longer had an interest in that ... they preferred money and food
baby could perfectly have been born and traveled to the planet earth for revenge does not change that is more easy .. because the intervention of trunks was what caused than baby to wake up before finishing his evolution
the arc of super 17 could not pass simply.

[S3 Hendrix]

something late but ..
the events of the battle of the gods happened .. for xeno goku
That means that Pilaf became good and did not ask for the initial wish and the black star dragon ball does not exist or that seems to be why Goku kept his adult age
basically it's a fusion of stories
https://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Goku:_Xeno

It contradicts everything though. Without Kid Goku there would be no searching for Black Star balls and Baby wouldn't be discovered, Myuu wouldn't know Goku and so wouldn't create Super 17. It makes no sense.
Besides, is Pilaf really good lol? I don't think so. Even in RoF saga he was trying to get a wish. The only contradiction is that he isn't small in GT, but:
-He could make the same wish as a kid
-He might not even become a kid in Xeno timeline

they become friends of goten and trunks live in the bulma house ...
ROF does not exist in the continuity of xeno goku so it does not get ssj blue, frieza does not revive and pilaf stops trying to look for its desire, that anyway mai and shu no longer had an interest in that ... they preferred money and food
baby could perfectly have been born and traveled to the planet earth for revenge does not change that is more easy .. because the intervention of trunks was what caused than baby to wake up before finishing his evolution
the arc of super 17 could not pass simply.

Ya’ll this isn’t the “what if” thread please take it somewhere else, we know nothing about Goku Xeno’s timelines, and hints from the 3ds game do not effect the arcade game, mangas or anime since none are in the same continuity. Just because he has ssj4 doesn’t mean he lived through the events of GT

[Tai Lung]

It contradicts everything though. Without Kid Goku there would be no searching for Black Star balls and Baby wouldn't be discovered, Myuu wouldn't know Goku and so wouldn't create Super 17. It makes no sense.
Besides, is Pilaf really good lol? I don't think so. Even in RoF saga he was trying to get a wish. The only contradiction is that he isn't small in GT, but:
-He could make the same wish as a kid
-He might not even become a kid in Xeno timeline

they become friends of goten and trunks live in the bulma house ...
ROF does not exist in the continuity of xeno goku so it does not get ssj blue, frieza does not revive and pilaf stops trying to look for its desire, that anyway mai and shu no longer had an interest in that ... they preferred money and food
baby could perfectly have been born and traveled to the planet earth for revenge does not change that is more easy .. because the intervention of trunks was what caused than baby to wake up before finishing his evolution
the arc of super 17 could not pass simply.

Ya’ll this isn’t the “what if” thread please take it somewhere else, we know nothing about Goku Xeno’s timelines, and hints from the 3ds game do not effect the arcade game, mangas or anime since none are in the same continuity. Just because he has ssj4 doesn’t mean he lived through the events of GT

if you want to see it like this ..
but that info is supposed to be from the game .. there's nothing to say that it's not like that

[ankokudaishogun]

something late but ..

yes, you missed all the post where the BoG events happened only in the not-canon 3DS game version of Goku:Xeno, not in the arcade(main canon) nor in the manga

[Tai Lung]

something late but ..

yes, you missed all the post where the BoG events happened only in the not-canon 3DS game version of Goku:Xeno, not in the arcade(main canon) nor in the manga

I was reviewing pages back and I have not seen
ok so ok then as they said above is a goku of which nothing is known

[Majin Demigra]

Remember in Xenovere Demigra said he would make the Shenrons his slaves

https://youtu.be/F6Eli_ivQh4

And now we have this

https://m.imgur.com/vB2klpy

[Dragon Wukong]

Remember in Xenovere Demigra said he would make the Shenrons his slaves

https://youtu.be/F6Eli_ivQh4

And now we have this

https://m.imgur.com/vB2klpy

That's actually a really good catch. Funny considering no situation in the game lets that dialogue happen though.

[Rinsankajugin]

I dunno if y'all know this, but the Xeno Goten in UM3 is actually Ultimate Xeno Goten:



This is Goten's first what-if form after 8 years of Heroes! Xeno Gohan also has Ultimate btw.

[Grimlock]

I saw that. I would post here but then I saw that Xeno Dragons (and other characters, like Jeice, Muten Roshi...) also have something written under the names (it might have something to do with how things are organized or something else entirely, because there are way more evidences throughout the sets of missions with icons displaying something written under the names and others don't).

There is this:


And then there is this:


For Xeno Gohan, there is this:


And then there is this:


There are no differences between the base form and the supposed Ultimate form, which is something that exist in Heroes, as we see it in regular Gohan.

Base:


Ultimate:


I think it's better to wait until UM3 is released, so we get to see clearer what's going on.

[sunsetshimmer]

Too bad they aren't releasing any DBH wallpapers except for those background images on main site that change every mission.
Trailers and site have plenty of pretty cool images that are covered in text. That shot of dragons i posted on previous page would be cool without text and i would make it my new wallpaper.

[ankokudaishogun]

it might have something to do with how things are organized or something else entirely, because there are way more evidences throughout the sets of missions with icons displaying something written under the names and others don't

The characters have their "form" under THEIR names when they are the ones initiating a combo attack.
The others charaxcters joining the combo don't get their form specified.

(IIRC it's a gameplay mechanic: the starting usint must be in the specified form to start the attack, while the support units can be in any form as long as they have the correct name.
I don't think there are unit that start team attack AND have a transforming mechanic(therefore all the leading units are in the necessary form from the start), but it was probably done to be future-proof.)

Also: the Shadow Dragons(both GT and Xeno) have "Jaakuryuu"=Evil Dragon=Shadow Dragon under their names.
Jeice and Muten have "Normal".

And Ultimate Gohan is specifically "Potential Liberated" form of "Son Gohan: Teen" in Heroes(unlike other games like Dokkan where it's a different character name)

So, yeah. In short, now we have Ultimate Goten:Xeno which is very interesting