My hunch is that Goku would be able to take Aniraza with kaioken, but was conserving energy for his fight against Jiren. So, Kafla would probably be able to take it as well, specially if she uses her strongest attacks.dragon boss z wrote:Aniraza vs ssj2 Kefla
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Ribrianne (not Super or Giant Ribrianne) vs. Basil
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They're both Base Saiyans tier, but I'll give this to Basil.Bullza wrote:Ribrianne (not Super or Giant Ribrianne) vs. Basil
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So Ribrianne would be weaker than Buu?
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It's really hard to say at this point. I would say her regular form probably is, maybe Mr. Buu level at most. Her Super Ribrianne form is probably more like Super Buu to Buuhan level.Bullza wrote:So Ribrianne would be weaker than Buu?
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Well her Super Ribrianne form was superior to Base Goku who was probably Buuhan level anyway.dragon boss z wrote:It's really hard to say at this point. I would say her regular form probably is, maybe Mr. Buu level at most. Her Super Ribrianne form is probably more like Super Buu to Buuhan level.Bullza wrote:So Ribrianne would be weaker than Buu?
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Ya she did seem maybe a bit stronger. I have current base Goku slightly below Buuhan, but Ribrianne seemed a bit above him so that makes sense to me. The only thing that makes me unsure is how well 18 did against her giant form, though that was more of an energy projection than an actual body and she needed 17's help.Bullza wrote:Well her Super Ribrianne form was superior to Base Goku who was probably Buuhan level anyway.dragon boss z wrote:It's really hard to say at this point. I would say her regular form probably is, maybe Mr. Buu level at most. Her Super Ribrianne form is probably more like Super Buu to Buuhan level.Bullza wrote:So Ribrianne would be weaker than Buu?
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Yeah that throws me as well because obviously the Giant form would be the most powerful and Android 18 beat her.dragon boss z wrote:The only thing that makes me unsure is how well 18 did against her giant form, though that was more of an energy projection than an actual body and she needed 17's help.
Whether it means she powered up and she's also now far above Buuhan or there was another reason for why she won? Who knows.
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If that was the case I would feel like she would of been hyped up more, or it would of been more clear. 17 was shown to be strong, but 18 not so much. She had trouble with people even Krillin could help against in the beginning of the trailer. It seems like they just randomly buffed her for a cool moment. As of now I would say she is maybe around perfect Cell level. That is enough to where I can justify her fighting back against Ribrianne.Bullza wrote:Yeah that throws me as well because obviously the Giant form would be the most powerful and Android 18 beat her.dragon boss z wrote:The only thing that makes me unsure is how well 18 did against her giant form, though that was more of an energy projection than an actual body and she needed 17's help.
Whether it means she powered up and she's also now far above Buuhan or there was another reason for why she won? Who knows.
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SSJG Yamcha vs Perfect Cell.
SSJGKKx20 Yamcha vs Super Perfect Cell.
SSJGKKx20 Yamcha vs Super Perfect Cell.
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nickzambuto wrote:SSJG Yamcha vs Perfect Cell.
SSJGKKx20 Yamcha vs Super Perfect Cell.
1. Okay, this is what we know. Before Beerus came to fight goku, goku in his base was said to be weaker then Frieza. So let's say goku by the one of the cell saga is around 15- 20 million in his base (after training in the hyperbolic time chamber). So at super Saiyan he is at 750 mill-1 bill, however cell was holding back. So I imagine Cell at full power is 1.5-1.8 billion. Yamacha is about 40-70,000. We don't know the multiplier is for ssjgod is but I personally have it to be maybe 25,000x base. Which is around 1.7 billion. So at best case scenario, yamacha barely wins or the very least puts up a great fight against normal cell.
2. Now ssjblue, I don't have it much stronger then god. So for fun I will put it at 30,000x base. So yamacha is around 2 billion (so near ssj2 Gohan) and we add times 10 Kaioken. He is near 21 billion. He kills cell and eats him for breakfast.
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Dude, her strongest form ever lost to 18. Of course she's weaker than Majin Buu.Bullza wrote:So Ribrianne would be weaker than Buu?
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On the contrary, it means 18 is a universe buster now.Zamasu55 wrote:Dude, her strongest form ever lost to 18. Of course she's weaker than Majin Buu.Bullza wrote:So Ribrianne would be weaker than Buu?
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Well maybe Android 18 is stronger than Buu now.Zamasu55 wrote:Dude, her strongest form ever lost to 18. Of course she's weaker than Majin Buu.Bullza wrote:So Ribrianne would be weaker than Buu?
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My multiplier for SSJ God is way too high, it's x1,000,000. I mean, base Vegito is stronger than SSJ3, let's say is x600 base. Then with SSJ3 it's like x240,000 base. SSJ3 Vegito is nothing in comparison to SSJ God, therefore that's the multiplier I have for that. So Yamcha would obliterate Cell in both scenarios.nickzambuto wrote:SSJG Yamcha vs Perfect Cell.
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Yeah, I guess that sparring in the garden for 2 hours with your husband makes you stronger than Majin Buu. Tien should've tried too.Bullza wrote:Well maybe Android 18 is stronger than Buu now.Zamasu55 wrote:Dude, her strongest form ever lost to 18. Of course she's weaker than Majin Buu.Bullza wrote:So Ribrianne would be weaker than Buu?
Yep, so is Majora, the blind fox.TheUltimateNinja wrote: On the contrary, it means 18 is a universe buster now.
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Well it wouldn't have been at that point. She appeared to be weaker than Base Vegeta at that point.Zamasu55 wrote:Yeah, I guess that sparring in the garden for 2 hours with your husband makes you stronger than Majin Buu. Tien should've tried too.
Any power up would have been after she thinks of her family, powers up and breaks free from Ribrianne's grasp and smashes her giant fist.
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I was interested in hearing more explanations on why you guys think the God multiplier is whatever you think it is. Most of us - including me - seem to feel it's something ludicrous, like tens of thousands of times to even millions of times, but I can't really imagine why we think that.
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I feel beerus truly was using maybe 1-2% his full power against God goku. I mean if you think about that, it makes sense. Because where I have it, around U6 arc. When goku used Kaiokenx 10, he was 40% of beerus power. However now during the events ToP goku is around maybe 8% beerus and when he used Kaioken again it was 80%-100% beerus.nickzambuto wrote:I was interested in hearing more explanations on why you guys think the God multiplier is whatever you think it is. Most of us - including me - seem to feel it's something ludicrous, like tens of thousands of times to even millions of times, but I can't really imagine why we think that.
Sorry but I personally believe after theorizing about this for a while, but God power multiplier has to be at most 25,000x times. If we go any higher that would be ridiculous. I know beerus is op as hell, but when toriyama claimed that goku wasn't stronger then Frieza at his base during battle of gods. I knew that he wants to try to keep things grounded.