I think each of Garlic Jr's goons is around the 200 mark, and shoot to 250 tops at their buff forms since they're still taken down very easily by weighted Goku and Piccolo (Somewhat above 300 each). I think the humans can win: Tien will kill his own goon before he can power up, help Kuririn and then they'll help Yamcha. Yamcha is the weakest, the only one to not break the 200 mark, but he can manage something with the Sokidan which earned Kami's praise. The only way the Garlic goons win is if they're beefed up from the start, and even then Tenshinhan might still kill one with a Kikoho, but will be too tired to put any further resistance.Almighty Majin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 11:52 pm Krillin, Tien, & Yamcha (23rd Budokai) vs Ginger, Nicky, & Sansho
Bardock (Father of Goku Special) vs Kishime, Ebifurya, & Misokatsun
Dodoria & Cui vs Amond, Daiz, Cacao, Raisin, & Lakasei
Nail vs Angila, Medamatcha, & Wings
Abo & Cado vs Salza, Neiz, Doore
Future Androids 17 & 18 vs Androids 14 & 15
2 Cell Jr.'s vs Zangya, Bido, Bujin, & Kogu
Babidi vs Hoi
I don't think Bardock can take this. He's roughly as strong as Goku was in Movie 2, and even Goku needed Kaio-Ken taking each of these guys 1v1.
Gohan with a power level of 10k killed one of the Raisin/Lakasei twins. None of Tullece's goons seem to really go much beyond 10k, so Dodoria and Kui can take this.
Nail. I think Piccolo is as strong as Nail in this movie, so he can deal with these guys. I don't think Piccolo ever took all 3 at once (Goku killed Medamatcha), but he killed the other two so easily I don't see Nail losing to 3.
Abo and Cado are merely as strong as Freeza's 1st form. Neiz and Dore are a bit unclear, but Salza was keeping up with Piccolo who's as strong as 2nd form Freeza at least. Their only hope here is fusion, which could maybe beat even Cooler.
17 and 18 win. 14 himself lost to Trunks who the androids didn't think much of, and 15 is probably just a bit weaker than SSJ Vegeta. Strong enough to give either twin a hard fight alone, but nothing agains them together.
They're more or less the same level, though I'm not sure if Bojack's goons should be weaker or stronger than the Cell Jrs. Still, their teamwork is pretty consistent and they got those invisible threads. The Jrs die.
I've considered that an option too, but I don't even know how strong South and Dai Kaioshin are so it's fairly pointless. Vegeta is #2 after Goku when Super starts, so I think Good Boo is still high SSJ2 tier for Vegeta to catch up without serious improvements. The Moro Saga is the first time they ever try to explain Boo's power, so I like my explanation that he's the same he was post split but with a lot more dormant power.ZombieVito wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 2:40 pm Good Boo is sure an odd one to figure out. I see some people just take South Kaioshin + Grand Kaioshin and have that be is power level, others have it as Grand Kaioshin still weakening him. I really can't decide.
Also Vegeta was not stronger than Goku at the start of the ToP. We have official preview info that said Goku and Freeza were tied for #1 spot in power for the U7 team so that would mean Goku > Vegeta.
At the very least, he's weaker than he used to be (Because Pure Boo is missing and I think OG Fat Boo)