What if Kid Boo had managed to destroy Son Goku?

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What if Kid Boo had managed to destroy Son Goku?

Post by OWmyDragonBallz » Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:28 am

It's quite clear that Ultimate Gohan was the strongest unfused character in the Boo saga. I have also noticed that Goku stated that if Kid Boo had managed to succeed in killing him with the Genki Dama, that everyone would be doomed, including the earth. Well what in the hell is Goku worried for if they have Gohan to finish Boo off? He should be more than enough to finish off the little pink demon. So would anybody here have any clear opinions to this hole in the series.

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Re: What if Kid Boo had managed to destroy Son Goku?

Post by Nazi Cola » Sat Jun 11, 2011 3:26 am

He probably thought Boo would just bust the planet again without sitting down for a spot of tea first.
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Re: What if Kid Boo had managed to destroy Son Goku?

Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:16 am

^Yeah, that. Kid Boo has already shown that he's not the most patient guy, after all.
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Re: What if Kid Boo had managed to destroy Son Goku?

Post by Rocketman » Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:41 am

Goku teleports from the check-in station and uses his full SS3 power to destroy Buu.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:56 am

Rocketman wrote:Goku teleports from the check-in station and uses his full SS3 power to destroy Buu.
I don't think he would even have to come from the check-in station, as Kaioshin Kai is outside the universe orb. When the Elder Kaioshin died, he just gained his halo and "returned to life", so to speak, on the spot.
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Re: What if Kid Boo had managed to destroy Son Goku?

Post by Senzu_Bean » Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:13 pm

Daizenshuu 2 answers your question:
The fierce battle in the Kaioshin Realm becomes the greatest decisive battle in all the Universe!!
Goku, Vegeta, and the original Buu head into the final battle with the pure Majin Buu. If they were to lose here, then the universe would have no future forevermore.

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Re: What if Kid Boo had managed to destroy Son Goku?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sat Jun 11, 2011 3:13 pm

OWmyDragonBallz wrote:It's quite clear that Ultimate Gohan was the strongest unfused character in the Boo saga. I have also noticed that Goku stated that if Kid Boo had managed to succeed in killing him with the Genki Dama, that everyone would be doomed, including the earth. Well what in the hell is Goku worried for if they have Gohan to finish Boo off? He should be more than enough to finish off the little pink demon. So would anybody here have any clear opinions to this hole in the series.
Yeah, I agree with the opinion that Goku thought that Kid Boo would just destroy the Earth again, other planets or the entire universe, since he's already been proven to be an impatient, unpredictable, reckless and irrational guy. Gohan probably could destroy Kid Boo, but it's not certain that he'd be able to do it before Kid Boo could potentially destroy the Earth or the universe.
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Re: What if Kid Boo had managed to destroy Son Goku?

Post by astrallite » Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:05 pm

Or Goku possibly believed even with Gohan's power, he wouldn't be able to outlast Kid Buu, who would just keep reforming ad-infinitum.

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Re: What if Kid Boo had managed to destroy Son Goku?

Post by Goten Forever » Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:25 pm

Gohan was on earth at this point, and it was made clear he wasn't strong enough to defeat Gotenks-absorbed Super Buu.
With Kid buu being much stronger for reasons unknown, I don't think he could handle it, unless he worked in collaboration with Gotenks. And even then Buu might just absorb them.
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Re: What if Kid Boo had managed to destroy Son Goku?

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:38 pm

Goten Forever wrote:With Kid buu being much stronger for reasons unknown, I don't think he could handle it,
This whole thread hinges on the posters opinion of this debate, and I don't agree with yours. lol I'm not actually trying to bring up the debate, because I don't want to get into it. But the simple fact that this subject pretty much divides the fandom means that we really only have two choices, though there can still be some slight variences from person to person. Either Goku fails and the universe is doomed, or Gohan's the backup and wipes Buu out of existence. Of course there is the Buu blows up the Earth before Gohan kills him option, but that is about the only logical middle ground.
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Re: What if Kid Boo had managed to destroy Son Goku?

Post by hleV » Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:54 am

There should be [Anime] and [Manga] tags added to topics titles, so people wouldn't go like "But Kid Buu and SS3 Goku are both stronger than Mystic Gohan!" if the topic's about manga.
Hell, anime and manga could even be separated into different sub-forums, if you ask me.

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Post by CatouttaHell » Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:03 pm

I believe Chibi Boo is the strongest Boo both in the Anime and the manga so he'd pretty much destroy the entire universe as nobody but Goku could possibly defeat him. The only thing that could possibly stop him is if the Kaioshins somehow managed to procure another pair of Potaras and gave them to Goten and Gohan or something.
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Re: What if Kid Boo had managed to destroy Son Goku?

Post by SylentEcho » Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:42 am

Chibi Boo is not the strongest Boo. The strongest Boo is Boohan. This is shown clearly in the manga.

Apart from that, if people want to take the point of view that the Anime gives us, we can see that Goku SSJ3 can hold his own against Fat Boo, but can't finish him off. Now Fat Boo has the habit of allowing his foes to pummel him first before he shows his strength. Goku also fairs the same way with Kid Boo, except he was being toyed with. Chibi Boo was just having fun and wasn't being serious.

Boo's power comes from the people he absorbs. When Boo absorbs Gotenks and Piccolo, he's stronger than Gohan. When he absorbs Gohan too, Goku and Vegeta know they don't stand a chance. So when you take away Gohan, Piccolo, Goten, Trunks AND fat Boo what do you have? Someone obviously weaker than Boohan.

Also, If Goku even had the slightest feeling he could hold his own against Boohan, he would have fought him as an SSJ3 like he did against Chibi Boo. He said a few times that fusing was their only shot against him.

Since fusion was out of the question the moment Vegeta broke the earrings, Toriyama powered down Boo in order for Boo to fight against Vegeta and Goku without killing them instantly.

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Post by dbgtFO » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:04 am

Yeah, Evil Buu(Gohan) is the strongest Buu in the manga, that much is obvious. In the anime they make Pure Buu the strongest, probably because they wanted it to be more dramatic, since it was the battle for the universe.

In any case, if Buu won, he would've destroyed the universe. Since Gohan and Gotenks can't survive in space, Buu obviously has the advantage even though the two are stronger than him.
So if Buu had won right there, he would destroy Vegeta, Mr. Satan and Mr. Buu. Then destroy the planet and go on to ravage the universe. The End.

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Re: What if Kid Boo had managed to destroy Son Goku?

Post by jackjack » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:28 am

If kid Boo were meant to be the strongest Boo form, he wouldn't have been facing the same people fat Boo faced, :) whereas super Boo had to go up against two fused warriors and a potential-packing powerhouse.

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Re: What if Kid Boo had managed to destroy Son Goku?

Post by Godo » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:38 am

I think that you people are too stuck up on which Boo they fought and his strength rather than the obvious shitfest that was going on during that time.

This is how it went:

1. Goku and Vegeta play rock paper scissors about who is to fight Boo. Goku wins. Pure Saiya-jin spirit.
2. Goku fights Boo and enjoys it, during the fight they find out that Goku can't use his full power.
3. Vegeta comes up with the idea to get the Dragonballs.
4. Goku's initial reaction is that they would wish Gotenks and Gohan there (Goku is not "WTF" here, btw, he seems rather happy).
5. Vegeta's sudden change of heart leaves him to rather let Earthlings to defeat Buu rather than a safe card (Gotenks and Gohan).
6. After a lot of trouble they get enough energy to defeat Buu (this was shown to be troublesome right from the start).

Let me put this final scene into contrast:

1. Piccolo Daimao: Defeated by a hole in his chest
2. Piccolo Jr.: Defeated by a flying Goku who has broken all his limbs
3. Radditz: Defeated by a hole in his chest
4. Nappa: Defeated by his own comrade
5. Vegeta: Crushed under a several ton heavy Oozaru
6. Dodoria: Blown into smithereens
7. Zarbon: Defeated by a hole in his chest
8. Recoome, Guldo, Jeice and Burter: Defeated by Vegeta
9. Freeza: Blewn up partially by Goku, sliced up by Trunks
10. King cold: Blewn up by Trunks
11. Android 19: Blewn up by Vegeta
12. Android 20: Crushed by Android 17
13. Android 17 and 18: Absorbed by Cell
14. Android 16: Crushed by Cell
15. Cell Jrs: Smushed by Gohan
16. Cell: Blown into atoms by Gohan
17: Spopovitch and Yamu: Blown into pieces in imaginative ways
18: Yakon and Puipui: Blown into pieces
19: Babidi: Punched in the head so hard that it blew up
20. Dabra: Eaten in cookie-form
21: Boo: Defeated with LOVE, PEACE and UNDERSTANDING

At hell with the ending and all logic that surrounded it.
Boo would never have won, Goku and friends would never have lost.
They screwed up so many times with Boo that it's not even funny. They got new chances all the time.
Even if the Genki-dama didn't work, they would have defeated him anyways, no matter how many new forms he would have got.

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Post by Michsi » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:52 am

I alwyas found this Evil Buu/Kid Buu thing to be pretty confusing. In my version of the translation, after Vegeta and Goku escape Buu's body , they note that he had gotten stronger. They seem a little dumbfounded about this because they probably expected for Buu to become weaker after getting Gohan and rest out.

Yet at the same time, they seemed relieved to see that he had shrunk. Which was weird, since size never really matter in a fight anymore....

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Re: What if Kid Boo had managed to destroy Son Goku?

Post by dbgtFO » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:46 pm

Michsi, it seems you are referring to Pure Buu with South Kaioshin. Since my version is apparently a translation of your version, there should be a quote, where it's said that he is going to transform. Which is where he transforms into the one commonly know as "Kid Buu."

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Post by Michsi » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:55 pm

dbgtFO wrote:Michsi, it seems you are referring to Pure Buu with South Kaioshin. Since my version is apparently a translation of your version, there should be a quote, where it's said that he is going to transform. Which is where he transforms into the one commonly know as "Kid Buu.".
I assume you are referring to Kaioshin's comment.
The reason I always believed Kid Buu is the strongest was simply because of Goku's statement.

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Re: What if Kid Boo had managed to destroy Son Goku?

Post by dbgtFO » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:00 pm

No, I meant Vegeta's statement in ch. 508. When you say Goku's statement, you mean the one he made, when the chapter(507) was about to end right?

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