Romantic Interests In Dragonball

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Romantic Interests In Dragonball

Post by Cacarot » Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:07 am

I just want to see people's opinion on the controversy surrounding Goku getting with Chi Chi and not with Bulma(, as well as) Bulma getting with Vegeta and not Yamcha. I think there is a lot of controversy within the community because Goku and Bulma were best friends and attracted to each other and then he just ditches her for Chi Chi who he met once when they saved Ox King. Bulma was also with Yamcha for all Dragonball and then has sex with a psychotic murderer and loves him. WTF.

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Re: Romantic Interests In Dragonball

Post by Saiga » Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:22 am

I don't have a problem with either situation. Since when was Goku attracted to Bulma?
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:37 am

I'll never understand the people who seemed to think there was a real foundation for a romantic relationship between Goku and Bulma.

Goku wasn't attracted to anyone... He didn't even show any sort of romantic interest in anyone until Chi Chi, and the little bit there was only came after they already had a kid. The only slight hint before that was after Goku's engagement, when he remembered to grab Chi Chi and take her with him after winning the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai... let's be honest here, knowing Goku, since he had to have marriage explained to him, it was fairly likely he could have just forgotten to bring her along after his match.

As for Bulma, she didn't even have any sort of real feelings for Goku until it was too late anyway. He only became an option to her at the 23rd Budokai, when she realized he was a decent catch for being some little monkey boy she found in the woods, and he got engaged only a few hours after they met back up...plus, she still had Yamcha at that point. The subject gets revisited in the Namek portion of the series, but by that time, its way too late.

I don't really care about Vegeta X Bulma X Yamcha stuff.
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Re: Romantic Interests In Dragonball

Post by Cacarot » Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:51 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I'll never understand the people who seemed to think there was a real foundation for a romantic relationship between Goku and Bulma.

Goku wasn't attracted to anyone... He didn't even show any sort of romantic interest in anyone until Chi Chi, and the little bit there was only came after they already had a kid. The only slight hint before that was after Goku's engagement, when he remembered to grab Chi Chi and take her with him after winning the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai... let's be honest here, knowing Goku, since he had to have marriage explained to him, it was fairly likely he could have just forgotten to bring her along after his match.

As for Bulma, she didn't even have any sort of real feelings for Goku until it was too late anyway. He only became an option to her at the 23rd Budokai, when she realized he was a decent catch for being some little monkey boy she found in the woods, and he got engaged only a few hours after they met back up...plus, she still had Yamcha at that point. The subject gets revisited in the Namek portion of the series, but by that time, its way too late.

I don't really care about Vegeta X Bulma X Yamcha stuff.
Yea but they spent so much time together! Goku may have had to have marriage explained to him but he still had a kid with Chi Chi!! He wants it like everyone else. There was so much sexual tension that people didn't realize it. I think that is why Bulma went with Vegeta because Yamcha was messing around and she wanted it and Vegeta wanted it too! Akira Toriyama misled the fans by having bulma as female lead and then bringing this random girl to marry goku. Think about if Bulma was Gohan's mom!?! He would have been strongest so this is very important subject.

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Re: Romantic Interests In Dragonball

Post by Eire » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:06 am

Yes, she used to wash his butts and leant him what the shower is when she was a fully developed teenager and he was a boy little even for his age. What a promising beginning of romantic relationship.
I liked the idea of Bulma and Goku not being together- it was clear that she was important on her own, not as stock future girlfriend. I don't see the sexual tension in Goku, because he don't give any sign of such a desire. Well, enjoying a sex isn't obligatory to have a child and not everyone (surprise!) need it badly or treat like necessarily thing.
For Vegeta and Bulma- well, one night stand without second thought, oh god, where's my period, wait I forgot about the pills, where's the nearest OB ward, well I'm not getting younger, Yamcha will be ready to have a kid for st.Never, money aren't problem, screw the guys, maybe it was right thing to happen.
And Vegeta stayed because he had no place to go, so why not try to watch his own child growing, while being Trunk's mother's kept-man?

What really bothers me is that contacts between Sons and Briefs are getting so loose that it seems that former friends rarely see each other. It's understandable that Gohan after father's death wasn't in touch with Bulma, but why Goku didn't care about his friend when he was alive? Why didn't he visit Bulma when she become mother? It seems that she didn't even informed him about such an important thing in her life?
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Re: Romantic Interests In Dragonball

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:17 am

Cacarot wrote:Yea but they spent so much time together! Goku may have had to have marriage explained to him but he still had a kid with Chi Chi!! He wants it like everyone else. There was so much sexual tension that people didn't realize it. I think that is why Bulma went with Vegeta because Yamcha was messing around and she wanted it and Vegeta wanted it too! Akira Toriyama misled the fans by having bulma as female lead and then bringing this random girl to marry goku. Think about if Bulma was Gohan's mom!?! He would have been strongest so this is very important subject.
I think you're a tad bit delusional here, but to each there own.

Goku up and leaves his family on multiple occasions, so I doubt he cares much about sex. Since he literally had almost no libido, how much time he spent with Bulma is irrelevant. I won't debate you on Bulma's libido and her actions with Yamcha or Vegeta. One, because you're probably right, and two, because I really don't care. Toriyama did say in the Q&A section in the back of the early DB volumes that in the beginning, his editor, Torishima, wanted him to have Bulma and Goku end up together. Obviously he didn't think that was a good idea from the start, so it wasn't going to happen. So you'd never have to worry about Bulma being Gohan's mom. it wouldn't havemade him any stronger if Bulma was his mom. It's actually less likely since Chi Chi was much stronger than her.
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Re: Romantic Interests In Dragonball

Post by Gonstead » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:30 am

We would probably end up with a purple haired Gohan if Goku did end up with Bulma anyway... which really wouldn't look that great.
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Post by Silver Sinspawn » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:43 am

The best part of Dragon Ball is that EVERY relationship is clear. There are no underlining romantic interests. It's simple. Goku for Chi Chi. Bulma for Yamcha, in Dragon Ball, and Vegeta in the Namek arc onwards. Gohan for Videl. Krillin for 18 (also Maron if filler counts). Possibly Tien for Launch. Besides that, there is no evidence in the series for any two characters to engage in any form of romantic relationship.
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Post by Saiga » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:46 am

Silver Sinspawn wrote:The best part of Dragon Ball is that EVERY relationship is clear. There are no underlining romantic interests. It's simple. Goku for Chi Chi. Bulma for Yamcha, in Dragon Ball, and Vegeta in the Namek arc onwards. Gohan for Videl. Krillin for 18 (also Maron if filler counts). Possibly Tenshinhan for Launch. Besides that, there is no evidence in the series for any two characters to engage in any form of romantic relationship.
I wouldn't count Tenshinhan and Lunch, as he has shown no interest in her and only her aggressive personality has shown an interest in him.
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Post by Michsi » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:06 am

I wouldn't count Tenshinhan and Lunch, as he has shown no interest in her and only her aggressive personality has shown an interest in him.
Didn't Toriyama claim in one interview that these two do get together off screen?

Toriyama did say in the Q&A section in the back of the early DB volumes that in the beginning, his editor, Torishima, wanted him to have Bulma and Goku end up together.
Wow, I never knew that. But did he state that he didn't think it was a good idea ? Because initially Goku was supposed to be 14, only 2 years younger than her. Maybe he did give it some thought in the beginning, but tossed it aside once Yamcha entered the story. Maybe this is where Bulma's interest in Goku comes from.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:50 am

Michsi wrote:Wow, I never knew that. But did he state that he didn't think it was a good idea ? Because initially Goku was supposed to be 14, only 2 years younger than her. Maybe he did give it some thought in the beginning, but tossed it aside once Yamcha entered the story. Maybe this is where Bulma's interest in Goku comes from.
My bad, its a a brief tidbit in a Dr. Slump Volume, number 16. His exact quote on the page;

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Incidently, my editor, Mr. T, loves love and romance, which is a problem. Akane and Tsuku-Tsun? Taro and Tsuru-Rin? Arale and Obotchaman? All Mr. T's ideas. Frankly, writing romance gives me hives. Movies too--when they get all sappy, I shut my eyes. This is a secret, but in the other manga I'm writing now, Dragon Ball, Mr. T wants Son Goku and Bulma to fall in love. Oh, great."
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Post by FNF » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:58 am

Michsi wrote:Didn't Toriyama claim in one interview that these two do get together off screen?
I only heard that AT wanted to have Lunch and Tenshinhan appear at the end of Gt with a family or some ish like that.

However AT did imply that Tenshinhan was basically running away from Lunch in order to train in the filler which he contributed at the beginning of Z.

Something doesn't link the two points together. His idea for GT was probably just a stereotypical, idealistic ending for Lunch just to pay homage to her as the forgotten character.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:04 am

Herms' Landmark/Forever topic:

Q2. Did Lunch ever manage to meet up with Tenshinhan?
A. I wonder...Tenshinhan gave Lunch the cold shoulder, but she tenaciously persisted, and ultimately they were together! Couldn't that be it? (laughs)

Q5. Was Yamcha able to become happy?
A. I've al~ways had that feeling (laughs).
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Post by Saiga » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:07 am

I don't think he had anywhere near that involvement in GT.
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Post by VegettoEX » Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:12 am

Several times I've seen folks pop up using the word "controversy" to describe things, and I have to wonder: where and with whom is this a "controversy"...?

I don't necessarily mean that in a snide way, either. I just don't understand. Where are people so up in arms about Bulma not getting together with Goku that they've classified it as a "controversy"? I don't live on that edge of fandom, so if it's a "thing", I've never seen it.

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Post by Saiga » Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:16 am

VegettoEX wrote:Several times I've seen folks pop up using the word "controversy" to describe things, and I have to wonder: where and with whom is this a "controversy"...?

I don't necessarily mean that in a snide way, either. I just don't understand. Where are people so up in arms about Bulma not getting together with Goku that they've classified it as a "controversy"? I don't live on that edge of fandom, so if it's a "thing", I've never seen it.

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Post by CobraCookiez » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:06 am

It's been shown that Goku is not Bulma's type. She goes after rogueish dudes. Them being together actually would have been reeeeeally weird. As for Bulma and Vegeta, well I'm a big B/V fangirl so I'll defend that relationship until I'm blue in the face. Yeah there's really no controversy here. Bulma and Goku just have the best friend thing going on, you can be friends without being in a romantic relationship.

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Post by TripleRach » Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:55 pm

Eire wrote:Yes, she used to wash his butts and leant him what the shower is when she was a fully developed teenager and he was a boy little even for his age. What a promising beginning of romantic relationship.
I agree that it would have been really bizarre if they got together. Almost along the lines of grooming, since she was much more mature (physically and socially) than he was, and she was almost like an authority figure at first (teaching him about the world, bossing him around, and trying to manipulate him). Their relationship is better off as it is, which is almost like a big sister and a little brother.
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Post by Michsi » Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:07 pm

like a big sister and a little brother
I got the same impression from the main couple from Avatar, yet they still paired them up in the end....

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Post by VegettoEX » Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:27 pm

Michsi wrote:I got the same impression from the main couple from Avatar, yet they still paired them up in the end....
Did you... not... watch the show? So confused here. Aang was swooning over Katara the entire length of the series, and there were plenty of hints at Katara struggling with how or if to reciprocate those feelings (usually shying away from acknowledging them at all).

Compare this to Bulma and Goku, where there was never once ever at all not kidding not a single example of them even remotely looking at each other that way.
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