How did Future Trunks get his sword?

[Kuriza510]

I was watching "The History of Trunks" special and when he put on his sword to go fight the androids I wondered how he got his sword because in that timeline Tapion never came to Earth. Any answers?

[Perfect]

Isn't there a filler segment that shows him having a nightmare underground with some rebels that also have swords?

[Bussani]

He just has it in the manga as well, so who knows?

As for Tapion, how do you know he didn't visit Earth in Trunks' timeline? That's if you're assuming the movie happened at all, of course. If we go by the manga alone then the question probably becomes, "Why did Toei give Tapion a sword identical to the one Future Trunks used? It can't be the same one because this Trunks never grows up to become that Trunks. That doesn't make much sense."

[Saiga]

Toei actively hates concepts such as "sense" and "logic".

My personal theory is that Trunks won it in a sweepstakes.

[Pantalones]

Nobody knows exactly where the sword came from, since it's never really specified. There's three theories I've seen a few times, though:

1: People in the future use swords, for... some reason. It's just one of those generic swords everyone's using.

2: Tapion did show up in Trunks' future, but things played out differently (possibly Tapion did the "absorb Hirudegarn into his own body" trick and Gohan or Trunks agreed to kill him with the sword to finish off Hirudegarn) due to the lack of anyone strong enough to actually fight Hirudegarn.

3: Gohan gave him the sword as part of his training, mirroring Piccolo's training of little Gohan.

[Kaboom]

I've always liked the good old "Tapion and Hoi showed up in Trunks' future too but events unfolded differently than in Movie 13" idea myself.

[NANLIT]

Even if Tapion came to Earth (or rather his container), Tapion wouldn't have escaped the box as in the movie, Shen Long was needed to open it and in Future Trunks's and Cell's timelines, the Dragon Balls did not exist anymore. Hoi would have to go somewhere else to try to release Tapion to release the full Hildegarn.

[Bussani]

Even if Tapion came to Earth (or rather his container), Tapion wouldn't have escaped the box as in the movie, Shen Long was needed to open it and in Future Trunks's and Cell's timelines, the Dragon Balls did not exist anymore. Hoi would have to go somewhere else to try to release Tapion to release the full Hildegarn.

Oh, that's right. So yeah. Toei makes no sense.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Even if Tapion came to Earth (or rather his container), Tapion wouldn't have escaped the box as in the movie, Shen Long was needed to open it and in Future Trunks's and Cell's timelines, the Dragon Balls did not exist anymore. Hoi would have to go somewhere else to try to release Tapion to release the full Hildegarn.

Well, he obviously released Minoshia, and both brothers were probably sealed the same way. One could possibly assume that Hoi had heard rumors of the Earth having Dragon Balls, or that he learned about them while searching for Tapion's box, and he just decided to use them in order to speed up Tapion's release. Maybe he could do it himself, using magic, though it would take a lot longer and he didn't feel like waiting. In a universe without them, he may settle for just performing a magic ritual or something...

[Kaboom]

Well, Hoi managed to get Minoshia out of HIS music box one way or another without Shenlong. I like to think he has the means to release them himself (he's a dark wizard of some sort, after all), but using Shenlong was a convenient shortcut.

EDIT: Dagnabit I took too long.

[matt0044]

Oh, that's right. So yeah. Toei makes no sense.

Mostly when it comes to the movies since they're purposely riddled with continuity errors for the purpose of the movies having self-contained stories. For fillers, this is often because... well, we all know how Toriyama likes to write off the seat of his pants so the inconsistencies resulting from the Anime filler is because Toriyama hadn't thought of the details the Anime added at the time. Sometimes, Fridge Brilliance would occur but many times, Fridge Logic was the result.

As for people other than Trunks with swords, I'd like to say that they were what they thought would protect them from the Androids and the wasteland of what was once Earth. You know, like a security blanket a kid has, they had swords to help them feel like they could make it another day before death.

[Perfect]

I don't see any logic behind the thinking that Toei gave Future Trunks Tapion's sword. They gave it to younger Trunks in order to be symbolic. Toei clearly gives us the indication that using swords, guns and basically any weapon is a common trend in the future. There's no implication that Future Trunks recieved his sword from Tapion, not even from Toei.
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[matt0044]

I don't see any logic behind the thinking that Toei gave Future Trunks Tapion's sword. They gave it to younger Trunks in order to be symbolic. Toei clearly gives us the indication that using swords, guns and basically any weapon is a common trend in the future. There's no implication that Future Trunks recieved his sword from Tapion, not even from Toei.
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Well, that was made before Movie 13 or even the Buu Saga was conceived.

[Perfect]

I don't see any logic behind the thinking that Toei gave Future Trunks Tapion's sword. They gave it to younger Trunks in order to be symbolic. Toei clearly gives us the indication that using swords, guns and basically any weapon is a common trend in the future. There's no implication that Future Trunks recieved his sword from Tapion, not even from Toei.
http://imageftw.com/uploads/20120214/bang.png

Well, that was made before Movie 13 or even the Buu Saga was conceived.

Which is exactly why the entire "Tapion gave Trunks his sword" theory is destroyed.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Which is exactly why the entire "Tapion gave Trunks his sword" theory is destroyed.

How exactly? Tapion could have still given Trunks his sword before the time when those images would be extracted from. The swords everyone else carries don't have to literally be the exact same one Trunks carries, just Toei being lazy and reusing a design like they do for characters with alternate color pallets in the background of scenes.

[Perfect]

No, because those swords were mandated by writers to the artists long before Tapion came into existence. This implies everyone in the future used a variety of weapons and that Trunks' sword held no significance (see episode 164). By the time Tapion was created, years and years later, it was only meant for symbolic purposes. Not once does Toei ever imply, "hey this is how Future Trunks got his sword!" It holds about as much logic as saying, "Did you know Mr. Rogers time traveled to Trunks' time line, trained Gohan, killed Mr. Satan and fixed Farm's truck, while all the more giving Bulma the designs to the time machine?"

I fail to see how the possibility of a theory with no implications or supporting evidence even comes to surface. There's no justification that even slightly implies Trunks could have gotten his sword from a character that didn't exist. Plus when said character was introduced, the implication of various characters in the future using swords and other weapons contradicts the idea that Trunks has this special, super-great sword that he got from a mystical space alien (that didn't even give Future Trunks the sword in the first place, only his counterpart in a completely different universe).

A large, Western-style sword. Its true power is utilized by holding it with both hands. Though it looks like an ordinary sword, it's refined enough to instantly cut the revived Freeza's mechanical body to pieces. It seems that perhaps it's been refined through the future's special technology. All the same, it couldn't cut Super Saiyan Goku or Artificial Human No. 18. It's usually stored in a specially made scabbard worn on Trunks' back.

Plus #7 says nothing about Tapion and implies it's refined from futuristic technology, not space aliens.

[paperbowser]

No, Trunks got his sword from "Mystic Gohan". There's nothing that special as to how he got his sword. As to why Trunk's sword doesn't break that easily, It'd probably be relevant to physics, and I'd assume related to how Goku provided durability to his finger when blocking Trunks sword.
Also, Tampion is filler, hence he is fiction and doesn't exist in the official story.

Now, in correlation to my own personal fanfic. Trunks obtained his sword after murdering a blacksmith. He broke into this old ladie's home because he was horny and wanted sexual release, then the husband(blacksmith) comes in with his sword swinging at trunks. Trunks takes his sword, and cuts his penis off and ultimately kills him, then Trunks gametes gets into the old lady and he realizes that he doesn't want children and then murders her. Trunks then proceeds on with his life with his newly obtained sword.

[matt0044]

hence he is fiction and doesn't exist in the official story.

Because as we all know, Dragon Ball is based on real actual events with the movies being disrespectful to the actual events. Akira Toriyama actually chronicled the adventures of Son Goku and his friends, family and foes which were actually real.

But seriously: WHAT?!

Now, in correlation to my own personal fanfic. Trunks obtained his sword after murdering a blacksmith. He broke into this old ladie's home because he was horny and wanted sexual release, then the husband(blacksmith) comes in with his sword swinging at trunks. Trunks takes his sword, and cuts his penis off and ultimately kills him, then Trunks gametes gets into the old lady and he realizes that he doesn't want children and then murders her. Trunks then proceeds on with his life with his newly obtained sword.

O.O I... got nothing.

[paperbowser]

hence he is fiction and doesn't exist in the official story.

Because as we all know, Dragon Ball is based on real actual events with the movies being disrespectful to the actual events. Akira Toriyama actually chronicled the adventures of Son Goku and his friends, family and foes which were actually real.

But seriously: WHAT?!

Now, in correlation to my own personal fanfic. Trunks obtained his sword after murdering a blacksmith. He broke into this old ladie's home because he was horny and wanted sexual release, then the husband(blacksmith) comes in with his sword swinging at trunks. Trunks takes his sword, and cuts his penis off and ultimately kills him, then Trunks gametes gets into the old lady and he realizes that he doesn't want children and then murders her. Trunks then proceeds on with his life with his newly obtained sword.

O.O I... got nothing.

It's based on real actual events from Dragon Ball. The filler isn't apart of the actual story, and introduces plot holes. I see that you like my fanfic. Is it because of the fact that it's more plausible than Tampion?

[matt0044]

I see that you like my fanfic.

If by "like," you mean bewildered out of my utter mind.