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Post by Mike D » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:17 pm

For as long as I can remember, Funimation has always been a bunch of fuck ups. But man, when I heard Vegeta explain the artificial moon to Goku and use the term Blutz Wave it hit me...these guys have really come far and it made me want to comend them on their re-dub. So, I made a topic where everybody could post their positive views on Funimation and the company's contributions to Anime in America.

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Post by VegettoEX » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:26 pm

Mike D wrote:For as long as I can remember, Funimation has always been a bunch of fuck ups. But man, when I heard Vegeta explain the artificial moon to Goku and use the term Blutz Wave it hit me...these guys have really come far and it made me want to comend them on their re-dub. So, I made a topic where everybody could post their positive views on Funimation and the company's contributions to Anime in America.
Umm... everything other than DB gets a fantastic treatment...? ^^;;

Seriously, them *not* including the ridiculous line about Bardock being a scientist isn't so much a cause for celebration, but a confirmation that they're not all COMPLETE morons about some of their writing :P. Sure, there are times we all wonder, but it's good to know they're actually aware of some of this stuff.
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Re: Blutz Waves

Post by Son Goku » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:37 pm

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Bardock being a scientist
Speaking of that, of all the lines we did get from the original dub (actual, we haven't gotten many in a while), we thankfully didn't get that line today :wink:
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Post by Super Sonic » Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:13 am

Thank goodness. Also on the Blutz waves thing, I remember in the manga something a certain million zeno units that was needed for the transformation. Or was that just what Viz decided to translate it as?

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Post by SaiyaJedi » Fri Aug 05, 2005 6:46 am

Super Sonic wrote:Thank goodness. Also on the Blutz waves thing, I remember in the manga something a certain million zeno units that was needed for the transformation. Or was that just what Viz decided to translate it as?
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Post by Son Goku » Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:55 am

Wow, I didn't know that page was updated so recently.
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Post by Sun_Wukong » Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:00 am

I was hoping any praying that that Bardock line wouldnt be in the re-dub. I was kinda clueless as to what the hell Vejiita was talking about, but at least it wasnt the Bardock line. It seemed a hellve a lot closer to Julian's translation, though. So far the only stupid line theyve kept in is that 3 years since Vejiita's destruction.

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Post by Li'l Lemmy » Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:27 pm

I remembered hearing that line many moons ago in the original dub.

Not knowing who Bardock was, I didn't really give it much thought; I never considered that they would actually give Goku's father a name or a backstory. Then later on after I had really started to get into DBZ, I ended up catching the Bardock special on CN (which I really enjoyed) and immediately my thoughts went straight back to that one line . . . and for some reason, it just really started to grate on me!

So yeah, I was one of the nail-biters watching last night's re-dub and hoping for the best. And they did it right.

I don't agree with a lot of the things FUNimation does with the Dragonball series, but I'll always point out something positive they do when it comes along because in all fairness I'm really very grateful for what they've done in bringing the series to our shores, flawed or not, and at this stage of the game it looks as though they're really trying to color inside the lines as best they can and not to make the uber-retarded mistakes they used to. And that's got to count for something.


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Post by Sun_Wukong » Fri Aug 05, 2005 6:46 pm

I'm really starting to wonder where Ocean got in their head that Bardock was a "brilliant scientist". It'd be pretty hillarious if it was a DB fan that told them that. Bardock, or any of the Saiyans for that matter, is far from brilliant.

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Post by Magnaboss » Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:45 pm

Sun_Wukong wrote:I'm really starting to wonder where Ocean got in their head that Bardock was a "brilliant scientist".
"lets fill this line with something interesting. Hey, kids like science, don't they?"

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Post by Super Sonic » Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:41 pm

Sun_Wukong wrote:I was hoping any praying that that Bardock line wouldnt be in the re-dub. I was kinda clueless as to what the hell Vejiita was talking about, but at least it wasnt the Bardock line. It seemed a hellve a lot closer to Julian's translation, though. So far the only stupid line theyve kept in is that 3 years since Vejiita's destruction.
That was the only mistake so far, but it was just a sign of laziness. Especially since during the Frieza saga and the first Broly movie, they correct it.

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Post by Saiyan » Sat Aug 06, 2005 5:22 pm

I actually liked the change from "Burst and mix!" to "Now let it begin!!"

It sounded cooler to me...but so far, I'm liking the new dub...except the pizza, ice cream, and the 3 years.

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Post by Son Goku » Sat Aug 06, 2005 5:32 pm

Saiyan wrote:I'm liking the new dub...except the pizza, ice cream, and the 3 years.
Heh, I can imagine it now:

"In three years time, you were born, aged twelve years, went on a search for Dragonballs, trained with a hermit for a year, fought in a tournament, fought an army while on a search for the dragonballs, trained for three years, fought in another tournament, killed a demon and his sons for revenge, trained with that demon's good half for three years, fought in another tournament and won against the demon's rencarnation, got married and had a son."

Yep, three year old Goku with his four year old son :P
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Post by Xyex » Sat Aug 06, 2005 6:02 pm

Sun_Wukong wrote:So far the only stupid line theyve kept in is that 3 years since Vejiita's destruction.
I'd thought this had already been brought up and was said to have been part of the original? (Further hinted at as well by it's lack of presence in the 'Dub mistakes' section of the Rummor Guide.) Beyond that, it's not even a plot hole. It's a matter of Raditz not knowing that the planet's been gone that long. He was probably just told 3 years before about the planet's destruction. Just like they were told it was a meteor when it was actually Freeza.
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Post by SaiyamanMS » Sat Aug 06, 2005 6:08 pm

Actually Xyex, the original doesn't mention how long Planet Vegeta was gone for, all Raditz actually said was that it was destroyed by a meteor. So, the 3 years thing IS a dub mistake.

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Post by Xyex » Sat Aug 06, 2005 6:14 pm

SaiyamanMS wrote:Actually Xyex, the original doesn't mention how long Planet Vegeta was gone for, all Raditz actually said was that it was destroyed by a meteor. So, the 3 years thing IS a dub mistake.
Well, even if it is dub only, it's still not a mistake. It's simply a case of misinformation. While yes, it's not correct that it was 3 years ago, it's easily explained as Raditz simply not knowing. As far as I can remember it's never stated later that Raditz knew it had happened 20+ years before.
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Post by Sun_Wukong » Sat Aug 06, 2005 6:34 pm

I'm going for its a dub mistake. I mean come on, Vejiita knew as soon as it happened. I'm sure Freeza's men wouldve informed all the other Saiyans that were away on a mission. And I dont think Radditz was away from his home planet for 20 years. Even if he wasnt informed, I'm sure he wouldnt go back home and just not notice his planet wasnt there.

Wich makes me wonder, how is it that Vejiita, Nappa, and Radditz were the only ones on a mission at the time? Well, Bardock's team was, but we all know what happend to them.

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Post by Majin Buu » Sat Aug 06, 2005 7:31 pm

Well I was surprised when Chris Sabat pronounced Kaioken correctly, marking the first time since the Pioneer movie dubs that the attack was said the right way. I admit, I gained a bit (key word being bit) of respect for Mr.Sabat after that line, even if it wasen't intentional.

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Post by Rocketman » Sat Aug 06, 2005 7:44 pm

Sun_Wukong wrote:I'm going for its a dub mistake. I mean come on, Vejiita knew as soon as it happened. I'm sure Freeza's men wouldve informed all the other Saiyans that were away on a mission. And I dont think Radditz was away from his home planet for 20 years. Even if he wasnt informed, I'm sure he wouldnt go back home and just not notice his planet wasnt there.

Wich makes me wonder, how is it that Vejiita, Nappa, and Radditz were the only ones on a mission at the time? Well, Bardock's team was, but we all know what happend to them.
I say it's a case of Raditz using the wrong 'year', as in, not one of Earth's years. Maybe he was using Planet Vegeta's year.

And Freeza probably had most of the other Saiyans killed even if they were on mission. He feared the huge race of Saiyans, but he thought he could keep three under control.

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Post by Super Sonic » Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:00 pm

From what Dodoria said, Frieza knew of an advantage of having Vegeta working for him, so he purposely destroyed the planet when he was away. Raditz and Nappa just happened to be away at the same time by coincidence.
Well I was surprised when Chris Sabat pronounced Kaioken correctly, marking the first time since the Pioneer movie dubs that the attack was said the right way. I admit, I gained a bit (key word being bit) of respect for Mr.Sabat after that line, even if it wasen't intentional
Like I said in another thread, I found that rather ironic. But with Mr. Sabat, I find him one of Funi's most prolific VA's. Reason why is aside from King Piccolo and Piccolo (for obvious reasons), none of his major characters sound like each other. The closest to any hints of other characters I've heard from him was in movie #8, where I could hear a little of King Piccolo in King Vegeta's voice. Besides that, they sound nothing alike.

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