So, I was listening to the podcast (episode #302 I think) earlier on and there was some talk about Mirai Trunks being raised primarily by Bulma, hence his manners and attitude, compared to that of the bratty Kid Trunks.
This led me to wonder, why didn't Mirai Trunks become a Super Saiyan at a young age like his younger counter-part did. Was it the pressure of his apocalyptic future? Was it that Vegeta was stronger when he had present-timeline Trunks, so that somehow got passed down to his son? Do any of you lovely folk have any ideas on this?
Sorry if this has been covered before (it probably has), but I couldn't find anything after a search or two.
Why didn't Mirai Trunks turn Super Saiyan as a child?
Why didn't Mirai Trunks turn Super Saiyan as a child?
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Re: Why didn't Mirai Trunks turn Super Saiyan as a child?
^Well in the manga special as opposed to the TV one, Trunks could turn Super Saiyan from his first appearance. So we really don't know when he figured out how to in that regard.
My attitude is less in-universe and involves Toriyama being lazy and needing more powerful characters post-timeskip. I dunno.
My attitude is less in-universe and involves Toriyama being lazy and needing more powerful characters post-timeskip. I dunno.
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Re: Why didn't Mirai Trunks turn Super Saiyan as a child?
The plot called for it.
That or Gohan didn't know it was possible to obtain the transformation without genuine in-the-moment-rage.
That or Gohan didn't know it was possible to obtain the transformation without genuine in-the-moment-rage.
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He did in the manga.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Yeah, out of universe it's fairly obvious it's for that reason, perhaps coupled with Toriyama sort of poking fun at the series itself, and how overpowered everything has become.bkev wrote:^Well in the manga special as opposed to the TV one, Trunks could turn Super Saiyan from his first appearance. So we really don't know when he figured out how to in that regard.
My attitude is less in-universe and involves Toriyama being lazy and needing more powerful characters post-timeskip. I dunno.
Hm, didn't know about the manga special at all.
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Future Trunks turned SSJ as a kid in the manga. For all we know, he could turn SSJ as young as Kid Trunks did. He was much weaker though, probably because Kid Trunks was trained by Vegeta and maybe Vegeta was stronger when he was conceived.
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How old was Trunks in that chapter? I'm guessing 14 or so?
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At the beginning of Bo arc, Vegeta had just started training Trunks, so Trunks' strength must be so high because he was "playing" fighting with Goten.Toadster wrote:He was much weaker though, probably because Kid Trunks was trained by Vegeta and maybe Vegeta was stronger when he was conceived.
I think he was 13.Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:How old was Trunks in that chapter? I'm guessing 14 or so?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: Why didn't Mirai Trunks turn Super Saiyan as a child?
In terms of the Anime, improper training from an already inexperienced master prevented him from unleashing any of his strength. Plus, we don't really know how long Trunks was trained prior to the special.
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Well we have to not forget that Trunks came back and told everyone that Androids will be made which will be much more powerful than Frieza, forcing everyone to train much harder. Perhaps this had a factor in Trunks conception as well as Vegeta was probably pushing himself much more in preparation for the androids.
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Re: Why didn't Mirai Trunks turn Super Saiyan as a child?
I'm thinking he was just repressed due to the environment of his time.
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He didn't have Goten to train with. In fact, there were no martial artists other than Gohan around for him to spar or train with, so while he lived in a darker world, he would have been less powerful.
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Goten being absent is the reason why Trunks hadn't mastered the form and wasn't nearly as strong as in the main timeline. It's unclear at which age he went SSJ for the first time, though.
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I don't think the difference in strength is because of Vegeta's training.
In the present, Goten used to transform in Super Saiyan all the time, and used while playing, swimming, etc. That worked out as a special training, like Goku and Gohan did before the Cell Games to master the Super Saiyan form.
In the present, Goten used to transform in Super Saiyan all the time, and used while playing, swimming, etc. That worked out as a special training, like Goku and Gohan did before the Cell Games to master the Super Saiyan form.