Vegeta beating Kid Buu

[SSJFinny]

Does anyone think Vegeta should have been the one to defeat Kid Buu? Goku and Gohan both had their turns defeating a super villain. I think it's only right, (as it?) seems he is the other main Saiyan and the 2nd strongest, so he should have his turn at it. Akira Toriyama could have had him freak out and reach SSJ3 after Trunks dies. Then he and Goku fight together but Goku lets Vegeta use the ball of the Spirit Bomb to defeat Kid Buu to regain his pride as the prince. I feel that could make Goku and Vegeta come full circle.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I certainly wouldnt argue with this.

[Fox666]

I guess Vegeta was too weak at this point to be the one to defeat Boo. Of course Goku is not as strong as Gotenks or Gohan, but at least he is a Super Saiyan 3, while Vegeta is not much stronger than the last villain.

And what makes the Super Saiyan 3 so unique is that only Goku or Gotenks achieved it. Having Vegeta or Gohan with it would be too predictable.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

No. Vegeta was never the main character, nor he was ever meant to be one. Only Goku, Gohan, and Gotenks (Goten & Trunks) had the honor in the manga to become, or almost become the main characters.

[TheMightyOzaru]

No. Vegeta was never the main character, nor he was ever meant to be one. Only Goku, Gohan, and Gotenks (Goten & Trunks) had the honor in the manga to become, or almost become the main characters.

Not a main character? He is part of the main cast dude, he is a main character.

[Saiga]

No. Vegeta was never the main character, nor he was ever meant to be one. Only Goku, Gohan, and Gotenks (Goten & Trunks) had the honor in the manga to become, or almost become the main characters.

Not a main character? He is part of the main cast dude, he is a main character.

Being part of the main cast isn't the same thing as being the main character i.e. Goku. The only reason Gohan defeated Cell was because Toriyama had briefly made him the main character before making it Goku again. Vegeta has never been the main character nor should he have ever been.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I guess Vegeta was too weak at this point to be the one to defeat Boo. Of course Goku is not as strong as Gotenks or Gohan, but at least he is a Super Saiyan 3, while Vegeta is not much stronger than the last villain.

And what makes the Super Saiyan 3 so unique is that only Goku or Gotenks achieved it. Having Vegeta or Gohan with it would be too predictable.

Vegeta might have been able to go SSJ3 if anger was a trigger for SSJ3 at that point in time. However since it isn't, Vegeta definitely wouldn't have ascended. SSJ3 is the maximum power a Saiyan can achieve. I don't get where the hell people keep getting this idea that its some sort of mysterious form that can only be attained through the afterlife or fusion hax.

No. Vegeta was never the main character, nor he was ever meant to be one. Only Goku, Gohan, and Gotenks (Goten & Trunks) had the honor in the manga to become, or almost become the main characters.

Not a main character? He is part of the main cast dude, he is a main character.

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Being part of the main cast isn't the same thing as being the main character i.e. Goku. The only reason Gohan defeated Cell was because Toriyama had briefly made him the main character before making it Goku again. Vegeta has never been the main character nor should he have ever been.

There can be main characterS, it doesn't have to be the one.

[Fox666]

I don't get where the hell people keep getting this idea that its some sort of mysterious form that can only be attained through the afterlife or fusion hax.

Some people believe on it because it was only achieved under special circunstances. Although the way Goku refered to it after he saw Gotenks transformed suggested it was just natural to achieve it.

[dbzfan7]

Eh I don't see that happening. Toriyama even said he didn't like Vegeta so the odds of that ever being considered are slim to none. I think they should just give him a special.

[Saiga]

Eh I don't see that happening. Toriyama even said he didn't like Vegeta so the odds of that ever being considered are slim to none. I think they should just give him a special.

I've never seen a source for that. I do remember seeing him list Vegeta as one of his favourite characters, though - I actually have a physical copy of that interview, it came with the Dragon Ball manga volume 1-16 box set. So it makes me hard to believe he also said he doesn't like him.

@Ozaru There's still a difference. Goku doesn't "equally" share his status with the main cast. He is definitely the main character aside from Gohan's short shtick. Vegeta is not on the same narrative level as him, and it would be really poor to suddenly put him up there during the last battle.

[dbzfan7]

Eh I don't see that happening. Toriyama even said he didn't like Vegeta so the odds of that ever being considered are slim to none. I think they should just give him a special.

I've never seen a source for that. I do remember seeing him list Vegeta as one of his favourite characters, though - I actually have a physical copy of that interview, it came with the Dragon Ball manga volume 1-16 box set. So it makes me hard to believe he also said he doesn't like him.

Daiz 2 Story Guide Interview:

Incidentally, who is your favorite character?

Yeah, I guess I like Piccolo the most after all. Out of all the enemies, Piccolo Daimaō is the one I like most, and even after that I like Piccolo the most. I like Piccolo about the same as I like Goku. With Vegeta, well, I don’t like him all that much, but he was extremely helpful to have around. For the recent stuff, it was fun drawing Satan. When I first brought him out, I didn’t think that I would end up making Satan that important of a character. I thought he’d just be a one-shot character.
Satan is like that, but thinking up worthless gags is more enjoyable than doing the fight scenes. (laughs)

[TheMightyOzaru]

Well which of the interviews was released first? Toriyama could have changed his mind between interviews.

[Saiga]

Well which of the interviews was released first? Toriyama could have changed his mind between interviews.

I think that's the case. He does tend to change his mind a lot.

However, it turns out I was wrong about where the interview I was talking about comes from. It's not the one included with my box set, so I'm trying to find it. I found a similar interview on DragonBall Legends that says Vegeta is one of his top five favourite warriors, which looks more recent.

[Bussani]

I'm glad Vegeta didn't beat Buu, personally. For starters, I like how Buu is defeated by a Genki Dama made of everyone's energy; that's a cool concept, even if it probably could have been executed a little bit better. But more importantly, I love the part where Vegeta straight up admits that Goku is amazing. It's the first time we see Vegeta be that humble. It's strange, but not being the strongest, admitting it, and being content with that is Vegeta's crowning moment, if you ask me. It feels like he can actually be happy after that, and I've always liked to believe that getting over his obsession and training for more Goku-ish reasons (i.e. just to better yourself and prove to yourself what you can do) may actually have let him become much stronger than ever.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

No. Vegeta was never the main character, nor he was ever meant to be one. Only Goku, Gohan, and Gotenks (Goten & Trunks) had the honor in the manga to become, or almost become the main characters.

Not a main character? He is part of the main cast dude, he is a main character.

Kuririn & Yamcha are a main characters as well, should they have beaten Boo, Cell, or someone else? The main protagonist was Goku, then Gohan for some time, and almost Goten & Trunks on the side of Gohan. And then Goku again. Vegeta was never intended to become the main protagonist, and he shouldn't be.

[dbzfan7]

Would anyone just like side specials for individual characters? Even just plain shorts could be fun.

[DanTheBib]

Would anyone just like side specials for individual characters? Even just plain shorts could be fun.

I'd love to see a little "Trunks and Goten Have an Adventure" one. They end up wreaking havoc somewhere, or end up inadvertently foiling a robbery or something silly.

On topic, no Vegeta shouldn't have been the one to defeat Kid Buu. Maybe a minor villan who is still strong, but Vegeta played his part by holding Kid Buu up for Goku.

[SSJ4_Zankuto]

I always wonder about Vegeta being the hero to defeat Kid Buu. But he did help out enough to suggest Son Goku to use a Genki-Dama, he too admitted he's no match for Kid Buu in any other way. He's got no chance of being a hero at that time.

[Bussani]

You know what? If Dragon Ball had continued further than it did, I think Vegeta should have been the hero in the next arc. Keep his character moment at the end of the Buu arc, have him find some inner peace, and then have him save the day.

[Saiga]

You know what? If Dragon Ball had continued further than it did, I think Vegeta should have been the hero in the next arc. Keep his character moment at the end of the Buu arc, have him find some inner peace, and then have him save the day.

Kind of like the Super 17 arc if he didn't get shitten on?