Movie 8 Broly's Strength

[Undertaker]

I just to know strong you guys think M8 Broly is. I have him comparable to the Cell Games FPSSjins. I know there are people who say M8 Broly can beat Cell which I find ridiculous because the chapter of FP PC was revealed 5 days before M8 release.

[Zephyr]

I treat him as being in the same tier as SSj2 Gohan and Super Perfect Cell.

[VegettoEX]

Broli in DBZ Movie 8 is stronger than every character he came up against and defeated in Movie 8, but he is weaker in some way (be it technique, power, speed, knowledge, awareness, etc.) than the person or combination of people that contributed to his defeat.

[JP6GAMER]

I agree with Zephyr.

[Kaboom]

I typically peg him as being around Full-Power Perfect Cell in power. Whether the heroes were as strong or weaker than they were in the Cell Games, the result would really be the same against someone that strong. By Movie 10 I figure he's comparable to Super Saiyan 2 Goku or Vegeta.

[Fox666]

I suppose that all movies (except for movie 12 and 13) follow the logic of the main villain being stronger than that of the last movie. So if Bojack was seemingly more incompetent than Cell, Broli should be even more weak.

[Undertaker]

I treat him as being in the same tier as SSj2 Gohan and Super Perfect Cell.

Perfect Cell would beat him easily. He should be in the same level of Cell Games FPSSjin Goku.

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I agree with Zephyr.

Even though he is wrong?

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I typically peg him as being around Full-Power Perfect Cell in power. Whether the heroes were as strong or weaker than they were in the Cell Games, the result would really be the same against someone that strong. By Movie 10 I figure he's comparable to Super Saiyan 2 Goku or Vegeta.

But he faced weaker Z Fighters. Bojack ~ FP PC. M8 Broly is not even close to that level.

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I suppose that all movies (except for movie 12 and 13) follow the logic of the main villain being stronger than that of the last movie. So if Bojack was seemingly more incompetent than Cell, Broli should be even more weak.

Hirudegarn > Janemba.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Stronger than FPSSJ Gohan from the Cell games but weaker than Perfect Cell. Movie 10? Stronger than SSJ2 Gohan, whom is weaker than his Cell Games self, who lacks anger. In other words, a good deal weaker than SSJ2 Gohan(Cell Games) and Super Perfect Cell.

[Undertaker]

Stronger than FPSSJ Gohan from the Cell games but weaker than Perfect Cell. Movie 10? Stronger than SSJ2 Gohan, whom is weaker than his Cell Games self, who lacks anger. In other words, a good deal weaker than SSJ2 Gohan(Cell Games) and Super Perfect Cell.

M8 LSSjin Broly is at most equal to FPSSjin Kid Gohan IMO. M10 LSSjin Broly is stronger than SPC and SSjin 2 Kid Gohan.

[Legendary Saiya-Jin]

Perhaps a fast-version of SSJ Grade III Trunks.

[Fox666]

I suppose that all movies (except for movie 12 and 13) follow the logic of the main villain being stronger than that of the last movie. So if Bojack was seemingly more incompetent than Cell, Broli should be even more weak.

Hirudegarn > Janemba.

Not really. Toei website (now out of air) mentioned that Janemba is the strongest villain in the movies, seconded by Hirudegarn.

[MajinVegeta]

Stronger than FPSSJ Gohan from the Cell games but weaker than Perfect Cell. Movie 10? Stronger than SSJ2 Gohan, whom is weaker than his Cell Games self, who lacks anger. In other words, a good deal weaker than SSJ2 Gohan(Cell Games) and Super Perfect Cell.

M8 LSSjin Broly is at most equal to FPSSjin Kid Gohan IMO. M10 LSSjin Broly is stronger than SPC and SSjin 2 Kid Gohan.

I doubt FP SSJ Kid Gohan can tank a point blank full power kamehameha from FP SSJ Goku, Gohan wasen't leagues above Goku.

[Kaboom]

A few things, Undertaker:

1) Stop double- and multi-posting. Not only is there is an "Edit" button so that you can include extra content after you've submitted a post, but when you're composing that post in the first place, you have the option of scrolling down and hitting a button to quote any recent post you want. Please start making use of it.

2)

Even though he is wrong?

This. None of this.

3)

I typically peg him as being around Full-Power Perfect Cell in power. Whether the heroes were as strong or weaker than they were in the Cell Games, the result would really be the same against someone that strong. By Movie 10 I figure he's comparable to Super Saiyan 2 Goku or Vegeta.

But he faced weaker Z Fighters. Bojack ~ FP PC. M8 Broly is not even close to that level.

We don't know that. The idea of the Movie 8 heroes being weaker than they were at the Cell Games is a popular theory, one that I subscribe to myself, but we don't know it for sure. The Movies guide in Daizenshuu #6, the best source for this kind of info that I know, only gives a rough TIME-based setting for this and most other movies, but little to nothing else.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Stronger than FPSSJ Gohan from the Cell games but weaker than Perfect Cell. Movie 10? Stronger than SSJ2 Gohan, whom is weaker than his Cell Games self, who lacks anger. In other words, a good deal weaker than SSJ2 Gohan(Cell Games) and Super Perfect Cell.

M8 LSSjin Broly is at most equal to FPSSjin Kid Gohan IMO. M10 LSSjin Broly is stronger than SPC and SSjin 2 Kid Gohan.

I doubt FP SSJ Kid Gohan can tank a point blank full power kamehameha from FP SSJ Goku, Gohan wasen't leagues above Goku.

1.) Gohan certainly could, its established he is decently stronger. 2.) Goku in Movie 8 isn't a FPSSJ, he also didn't charge all of his power into the Kamehameha he used against Broly.

[dprez]

I also put him around Full Power Perfect Cell. Cell's level would seem capable of complete dominance over even full power Super Saiyan Goku and Gohan had they faced Cell like this, thus putting Broly somewhere in this realm makes sense to me. Broly reached Ssj2 level strength in movie 10 imo.

I think there is a big gap between Cells full power and the power he used to face Ssj Goku and Gohan. The way Broly walks through everything in movie 8 seams similar to what Cell could've done from the start of the Cell games if he felt like it, but he wanted to have fun. Also, even if the movie 8 Z-fighters are weaker than they are in the Cell games, is doesn't really matter. It does however help prove that Full Power Perfect Cell is probably stronger than this Broly, which I like to believe.

[DBZ Mick]

Perhaps a fast-version of SSJ Grade III Trunks.

I'd say this as well.

I don't think he's stronger than FPSSJ Goku or Gohan or Perfect Cell.

[TheMightyOzaru]

You know you kind of have to wonder whether Broly was based on SSJG3 Trunks' design:

[Undertaker]

Stronger than FPSSJ Gohan from the Cell games but weaker than Perfect Cell. Movie 10? Stronger than SSJ2 Gohan, whom is weaker than his Cell Games self, who lacks anger. In other words, a good deal weaker than SSJ2 Gohan(Cell Games) and Super Perfect Cell.

M8 LSSjin Broly is at most equal to FPSSjin Kid Gohan IMO. M10 LSSjin Broly is stronger than SPC and SSjin 2 Kid Gohan.

I doubt FP SSJ Kid Gohan can tank a point blank full power kamehameha from FP SSJ Goku, Gohan wasen't leagues above Goku.

M8 Z Fighters are leagues below their Cell Games levels.

Not really. Toei website (now out of air) mentioned that Janemba is the strongest villain in the movies, seconded by Hirudegarn.

This website was not made by Toei. This site also says Goku killed Frieza. Hirudegarn is at least around Gohan-Boo's level. Do you see Janemba anywhere close?

We don't know that. The idea of the Movie 8 heroes being weaker than they were at the Cell Games is a popular theory, one that I subscribe to myself, but we don't know it for sure. The Movies guide in Daizenshuu #6, the best source for this kind of info that I know, only gives a rough TIME-based setting for this and most other movies, but little to nothing else.

Of course it's a fact. This is like saying M4 Z Fighters are as strong as they were in the Frieza Arc while they are Ginyu Arc levels. Most of the people already know Cell Games Z Fighters >>>> M8 Z Fighters. It's simply because Toei never made the Cell Games when they made M8. The movie was produced by the time Cell went perfect till before the Cell Games began. What we saw by that time is their levels. The Dauizenshuu supports by saying the last shadow before the Cell Games AKA Perfect Cell Arc. I have already explained it in this link.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... =8&t=22264

[SSJFinny]

I put Broly at perfect cells strength but only 75% of cells speed. If only he got proper ki training, IMO with proper training no one could have been near his league except maybe boo gohan absorbed in M8.

[Undertaker]

I put Broly at perfect cells strength but only 75% of cells speed. If only he got proper ki training, IMO with proper training no one could have been near his league except maybe boo gohan absorbed in M8.

M8 Broly would get stomped by Perfect Cell. The only one who matches Perfect Cell's full power is Bojack. The chapter of Cell's full power was barely in the Manga. M8 LSSjin Broly is based on USSjin 2 Trunks but better. The better form is the FPSSjin which is why M8 Broly is in par with Cell Games FPSSjin Goku.