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Re: [Fan Manga ] Dragon Ball S(aka Superman and Goku)

Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:06 pm

Nice...Though how does Goku's power drop faster...unless you mean Superman has better endurance which makes sense as the sun constantly rejuvenates him.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:32 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:Nice...Though how does Goku's power drop faster...unless you mean Superman has better endurance which makes sense as the sun constantly rejuvenates him.
Just wait for SSJ2, 3, or 4.
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Post by GS7X7 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 12:13 am

It's probably a little early to be dropping SSJ3, and certainly 4.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Nov 29, 2013 6:47 pm

Hope some new pages come soon. It's been a while.
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Re: [Fan Manga ] Dragon Ball S(aka Superman and Goku)

Post by Einstein001 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:59 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:Nice...Though how does Goku's power drop faster...unless you mean Superman has better endurance which makes sense as the sun constantly rejuvenates him.
Exactly. Yellow Sun charges Superman's power, this is why he didn't get as tired of this fight as Goku.

GS7X7 wrote:It's probably a little early to be dropping SSJ3, and certainly 4.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:16 pm

I'm curious, what version is this Superman based on? All Star, Prime, Animated Universe, etc?
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Re: [Fan Manga ] Dragon Ball S(aka Superman and Goku)

Post by Einstein001 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:32 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:I'm curious, what version is this Superman based on? All Star, Prime, Animated Universe, etc?
Let me quote one of my comments to answer your question
There are many versions of Superman. The one that i've used in my work is BASED on Superman The animated series. Of course I had to make him stronger :) How much stronger? You will see later in my work :)
As for Goku - he hasn't reached SSJ2 yet. He's a little bit stronger than he was in The Cell Games Saga tho.
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Re: [Fan Manga ] Dragon Ball S(aka Superman and Goku)

Post by GS7X7 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:50 am

Einstein001 wrote:
KentalSSJ6 wrote:I'm curious, what version is this Superman based on? All Star, Prime, Animated Universe, etc?
Let me quote one of my comments to answer your question
There are many versions of Superman. The one that i've used in my work is BASED on Superman The animated series. Of course I had to make him stronger :) How much stronger? You will see later in my work :)
As for Goku - he hasn't reached SSJ2 yet. He's a little bit stronger than he was in The Cell Games Saga tho.
Thank God, I don't think anyone wants to see that uber-god monster version murder Goku again.


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Btw, technically Darkseid is a god, but it's pretty difficult to compare other so-called "New Gods" (like Granny Goodness) to someone like Bills.
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Post by JulieYBM » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:57 am

Eh, it's not like the DCAU characters ever really did anything more impressive than what you see in Dragon Ball or the television shows. I'm expecting Gokuu to come out on top in this if only because the Superman this Superman is based on never did anything particularly impressive.

By the way, Page #71 is a nice improvement. Other than Gokuu's hair in the third to last panel I thought you showed some real improvement. The simplistic art works really well for the penultimate panel.
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Post by GS7X7 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:06 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Eh, it's not like the DCAU characters ever really did anything more impressive than what you see in Dragon Ball or the television shows. I'm expecting Gokuu to come out on top in this if only because the Superman this Superman is based on never did anything particularly impressive.

By the way, Page #71 is a nice improvement. Other than Gokuu's hair in the third to last panel I thought you showed some real improvement. The simplistic art works really well for the penultimate panel.
Did you ever see the big fight in the final episode?

Also, a nuclear bomb close range was enough to kill Cell, and Superman was damaged by the outer blast of one of those.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:19 pm

GS7X7 wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Eh, it's not like the DCAU characters ever really did anything more impressive than what you see in Dragon Ball or the television shows. I'm expecting Gokuu to come out on top in this if only because the Superman this Superman is based on never did anything particularly impressive.

By the way, Page #71 is a nice improvement. Other than Gokuu's hair in the third to last panel I thought you showed some real improvement. The simplistic art works really well for the penultimate panel.
Did you ever see the big fight in the final episode?

Also, a nuclear bomb close range was enough to kill Cell, and Superman was damaged by the outer blast of one of those.
When did a nuclear bomb ever go off let alone damage Cell?
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Post by GS7X7 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:28 pm

Oh, I was referring to when #16 grabbed Cell and threatened to detonate a bomb that would kill Cell.

I don't remember if it was a nuke or a not, or if they specified how powerful it was. (I think that Superman vs. Goku Death Battle touches on that detail briefly or something)
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:41 pm

GS7X7 wrote:Oh, I was referring to when #16 grabbed Cell and threatened to detonate a bomb that would kill Cell.

I don't remember if it was a nuke or a not, or if they specified how powerful it was. (I think that Superman vs. Goku Death Battle touches on that detail briefly or something)
Was designed to kill Goku, so the bomb would likely be a planet buster. Then again, Gero stopped tracking Goku after his first fight with Vegeta so it may have been weaker.
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Re: [Fan Manga ] Dragon Ball S(aka Superman and Goku)

Post by JulieYBM » Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:58 pm

GS7X7 wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Eh, it's not like the DCAU characters ever really did anything more impressive than what you see in Dragon Ball or the television shows. I'm expecting Gokuu to come out on top in this if only because the Superman this Superman is based on never did anything particularly impressive.

By the way, Page #71 is a nice improvement. Other than Gokuu's hair in the third to last panel I thought you showed some real improvement. The simplistic art works really well for the penultimate panel.
Did you ever see the big fight in the final episode?

Also, a nuclear bomb close range was enough to kill Cell, and Superman was damaged by the outer blast of one of those.
Destroyer? That wasn't impressive. Ignoring the terrible animation and storyboarding all Superman did was punch Darkseid through a few buildings. There was no sense of speed or power behind those blows.

I do not believe the power of No. 16's self-destruct bomb was ever classified in instrength, especially not when Cell is stronger than anyone else in the series at that point, including Freeza. Freeza of course being shown to be able to effortlessly destroy a planet.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:07 pm

Yeah, if this was DCAU Superman (animated series and Justice League series), Goku could handle him with ease in base form.

I somewhat enjoy your version, and prefer it over the many ridiculous versions of Supes we have seen. The only versions I enjoy are Man of Steel and the DCAU Superman.
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Re: [Fan Manga ] Dragon Ball S(aka Superman and Goku)

Post by GS7X7 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:26 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:
GS7X7 wrote:Oh, I was referring to when #16 grabbed Cell and threatened to detonate a bomb that would kill Cell.

I don't remember if it was a nuke or a not, or if they specified how powerful it was. (I think that Superman vs. Goku Death Battle touches on that detail briefly or something)
Was designed to kill Goku, so the bomb would likely be a planet buster. Then again, Gero stopped tracking Goku after his first fight with Vegeta so it may have been weaker.

Imo, it was probably a self-contained blast and not something that would destroy earth, as that would eliminate Gero in the process.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:32 pm

Again, Gero built the bomb to kill Goku, but he stopped studying Goku after his fight with Vegeta. So, the bomb was built to kill a Post Saiyan, Pre Namek Goku who had a PL of 8,000.

Going off Goku's base PL on Namek of 3 million, Goku would already be 375 times stronger than the bomb intended for him.

Would the bomb do some major damage to the earth and possibly destroy it? Its certainly possible, but in terms of killing Cell, it wouldn't even hurt.
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Post by Puto » Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:03 pm

GS7X7 wrote:Oh, I was referring to when #16 grabbed Cell and threatened to detonate a bomb that would kill Cell.

I don't remember if it was a nuke or a not, or if they specified how powerful it was. (I think that Superman vs. Goku Death Battle touches on that detail briefly or something)
Bulma stated that the bomb was strong enough to destroy the entire planet.
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Post by The Monkey King » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:27 am

Puto wrote:
GS7X7 wrote:Oh, I was referring to when #16 grabbed Cell and threatened to detonate a bomb that would kill Cell.

I don't remember if it was a nuke or a not, or if they specified how powerful it was. (I think that Superman vs. Goku Death Battle touches on that detail briefly or something)
Bulma stated that the bomb was strong enough to destroy the entire planet.
And Cell didn't even think it would kill him:
Chapter: 406 (DBZ 212), P9.2
Context: after it turns out No.16's bomb has been removed
Cell: “Too bad, No.16…Though I don’t think I would have died from a mere bomb anyway.”

I mean come on, King Piccolo tanked his own city busting explosion, Goku tanked Piccolo's island (that rivals a continent in size) busting blast, Raditz tanked moonbusters, Freeza tanked multiple planet busters and a planetary explosion while near death.
Cell dying from a mear nuke? :lol:
The entire Dragonball army attacked Cell and couldn't even scratch him.

Raditz wastes DCAU Superman with a single punch.

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Re: [Fan Manga ] Dragon Ball S(aka Superman and Goku)

Post by JulieYBM » Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:07 am

Not to mention Piccolo effortlessly destroys the moon with a battle power around 300. Second Form Freeza has a battle power of about 3,333 times that.
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