How would the Andorid Arc play out had it went as planned?

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How would the Andorid Arc play out had it went as planned?

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:32 pm

IF the rumors are true or it's fact that Akira Toriyama was told to rid Gero and 19 because they looked "Geezy and fat". How would the story played out had they stayed that position? How would SSJ VEgeta be introduced? He saves Goku but then what? Turn SSJ and lose? Would 17 and 18 be even in it at all? As Trunks clearly did say Android 19 and 20. So I'm sure they was meant to be around for the whole arc or pretty much all of it.

What if the Cyborg 18, 16, and 17 stayed? Okay I think this MIGHT be a rumor but wasn't 17 and 18 was told to look to young or something like that? So would they hold a games cause they said to Krillin "This is nothing but a game".

I would talk about Cell and his forms being to ugly(Till they got to Perfect) but that's a rumor if I'm correct.

Edit: Okay so Cell was too ugly. So what if Cell forms stayed longer like planned. I think Semi perfect Cell vs ASSJ Vegeta would have been an epic battle had Semi perfect Cell stayed(Most likely would have been stronger). But oh god. THE FILLLLLLER!
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Re: How would the Andorid Arc play out had it went as planne

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:58 pm

No, it's been stated in interviews. He was told to get rid of 19 and 20 because they looked like a geezer and a clown if I remember correctly. 17 and 18 were swapped for Cell because they were nothing but young kids. I don't remember anything being said about Cell's first form, but he wanted to keep the second one around longer, but was told it looked stupid and to have Cell become perfect.
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Re: How would the Andorid Arc play out had it went as planne

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:04 am

From Shenlong Times #2
Akira Toriyama: At that time it began to be more fun to think up the story than to draw the pictures. But with the story, I basically only thought of each chapter. That’s why I end up getting caught in these quagmires. (laughs) Around the time of Trunks’ time travel, it was dreadful. I kept drawing, and it just got more and more incoherent.

Kazuhiko Torishima: You only got away with that because Kondō was your editor. I can’t stand that kind of troublesome stuff. (laughs)

Akira Toriyama: You’re terrible to say that, Torishima-san. Right around then was when the Androids No. 19 and No. 20 appeared. You weren’t my editor or anything anymore, but you specifically called me to say “I thought that the enemies had finally come, but aren’t these just a geezer and a fatso?” (laughs) In truth, I hadn’t had plans for anyone but No. 19 and No. 20 to appear. But there was no helping it, so I brought out No. 17 and No. 18. Then you called me up and said “What, this time it’s just some brats?” So I brought out Cell. (laughs)

Fuyuto Takeda: So you hadn’t planned on Cell appearing at all?

Akira Toriyama: That’s right. I liked No. 19 and No. 20 just fine. And I liked the initial Cell fine as well.

Fuyuto Takeda: The bug-like one?

Akira Toriyama: But Kondō-san said “He looks ugly. Of course, he can transform.”, so I had no choice but to transform him into his second-form.

Yū Kondō: Was that how it was?

Akira Toriyama: And then you were really awful, Kondō-san. “This time he looks like a moron, doesn’t he? Hurry up and make him into his perfect-form.” you said.

Yū Kondō: But he really did look like a moron. (laughs)

Akira Toriyama: With second-form Cell as well, I liked him well enough. Actually, I had wanted him to play a more active role. But since I was told he looked stupid, I had no choice but to change him. (laughs) So I made him into his cool-looking perfect form, which was to Kondō-san‘s liking.
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Re: How would the Andorid Arc play out had it went as planne

Post by Fionordequester » Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:06 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:but was told it looked stupid and to have Cell become perfect.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm sorry, but you just reminded me of my best friend's reaction upon seeing Semi-Perfect Cell!! I remember that one look at Semi-Perfect Cell immediately broke the tension for her. And when Cell said something (perhaps along the lines of "what should I do now?"), she was all...

"Get another nose? A different voice? A new face?"

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Re: How would the Andorid Arc play out had it went as planne

Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:23 am

I think Gero could have find ways to make himself stronger. It's a shame that he didn't last very long since I always imagine that Gero could have become Dragon Ball's version of Doctor Doom.
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Re: How would the Andorid Arc play out had it went as planne

Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:10 am

I wonder if having Semi-Perfect Cell be the one to kill Goku was a "screw you" to the editor who said he should play no role...
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Re: How would the Andorid Arc play out had it went as planne

Post by Xeogran » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:44 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:I wonder if having Semi-Perfect Cell be the one to kill Goku was a "screw you" to the editor who said he should play no role...
I was thinking about the same thing. Mr. Toriyama made him return and do something "active" after all.

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Re: How would the Andorid Arc play out had it went as planne

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:49 pm

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RandomGuy96 wrote:I wonder if having Semi-Perfect Cell be the one to kill Goku was a "screw you" to the editor who said he should play no role...
I was thinking about the same thing. Mr. Toriyama made him return and do something "active" after all.
And he made him look even dumber than he did before :P
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Re: How would the Andorid Arc play out had it went as planne

Post by IDreamtIWasABee » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:10 pm

He was probably always going to end it with Gohan going SSJ and saving the day, since it would directly fly in the face of Trunks' (and the readers') expectations of Goku being the future's only hope.

The arc would consist of a single battle a la the Saiyan saga, so there probably wouldn't be "grades" of SSJ or training in the Room.

Goku goes down from his heart, Vegeta and Piccolo exhaust themselves beating down 19 and 20, then 20 pulls some power-up out of his ass (or the lab) that Gohan transforms to combat. Trunks is the question mark; it's hard to tell if Toriyama had always intended to bring him back.

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