Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" On Blu-ray: News & Discussion

[qjz123]

Anyone know the video bitrate of those new sets?

I just checked a random episode. Episode 34 had an overall bitrate of 26.7mbps but that's counting the audio so after subtracting the audio it's around 23mbps.

[Kojiro Sasaki]

I just checked a random episode. Episode 34 had an overall bitrate of 26.7mbps but that's counting the audio so after subtracting the audio it's around 23mbps.

Thanks for the info.

[final_flash]

I actually like that picture. From the pictures you all have been posting, I think I want to get this set. I only have Vol. 5,6,7 of the Dragon Boxes. Hopefully, they will re-issue them, but this doesn't look bad to me. I love my Kai blu rays, but they don't look that great to me. As long as it looks good and I get the amazing story, I think I'll be happy. Although, I hope this is better quality than the DVD movie packs, I bought them, and was disappointed in the coloring. To each their own, I guess! I'm really excited to finally get the Manga in color, but I want to read it when the whole story is complete.

Dude, that picture i posted is not from the new season sets. Its an DNR level set picture that you liked.

DNR level set

Spoiler:

BD season set

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I personally like the little bit blurry level set pic better then the overly sharp, flat looking BD season set pic.

[Uber Mouse]

I don't know what's with that image of Goku from the seasons blu ray but it doesn't look that bad when I watch it, he's not that pink.

I guess it could be the way I have my TV calibrated though.

[Attitudefan]

On the topic of the Namek portion of the series looking washed out, that is how FUNi's film looks like. Even if you look at the old singles back in the "Ocean Dub" days, the colours were desaturated. Goku's gi is grey looking in the old singles and it reflect again on those level screen shots. I think the reason the OB's had looked so washed out was because they roughly kept the same colour corrections over from their season 1 transfer and colour correction. Whilst season 1 had much more colour variance, season 2 had always been washed out. Thus, adding more contrast to a desaturated and fairly washed out image gives nothing but extremely washed out colours for there was no colour to really work with at the start.

Look at Ginyu vs Goku from FUNi's singles; Goku's clothing is almost grey looking, especially the orange part of the gi.

Just tke a look at this (this is exactly how it looked on the old single sets and looks almost the same on FUNi's prints seen through the level set's advertisement):



The Dragonbox and the Kai transfer have much more vivid colour than FUNi's prints. My conclusion is, if FUNi was being lazy with their colour correction by retaining the values over from their first Orange Brick release, then the Blue Ray sets may experience the same problems.

[Metalwario64]

Did Goku fuse with Majin Buu?

Look at Ginyu vs Goku from FUNi's singles; Goku's clothing is almost grey looking, especially the orange part of the gi.

Just tke a look at this (this is exactly how it looked on the old single sets and looks almost the same on FUNi's prints seen through the level set's advertisement):

For whatever reason the 35mm episodes looked really dirty and brown on the single footage.

I already posted a single shot from a few episodes prior, and the colors are decently saturated:

[qjz123]

I don't know what's with that image of Goku from the seasons blu ray but it doesn't look that bad when I watch it, he's not that pink.

I guess it could be the way I have my TV calibrated though.

The colors of the season blu rays are inconsistent here is Goku in episode 31 http://imageshack.com/a/img401/6154/qai0.png and here he is in episode 30 http://imageshack.com/a/img716/2880/tlwk.png. His skin color tends to fluctuate on this set.

[Attitudefan]

Decently saturated, sure but still not up to par with the other arcs. I mean, Goku's gi still has a weird greenish grey tint which is not present at all on Toeis master prints when you compare them. Goku's skin blends in with his eyes moreso than the other arcs.

That is why the Orang Bricks look much better in the last few "seasons"; the colour balance, contrast, and saturation is much better than on the namek prints FUNi has.

Spoiler:

compare the colours from here:



to here:



Goku's gi has a VERY different colour tone to it. It is desaturated green-orange in the Namek arc compared to deep red from the Saiyan arc from the singles.

Compare that to Kai which has roughly the colours of the original airing or the cels:


The desaturation and green-grey tint is not present. It looks like the Saiyan arc and the arcs following Namek.

Goku's gi has a VERY different colour tone to it. It is desaturated green-orange in the Namek arc compared to deep red from the Saiyan arc from the singles.

That happened intentionally I assume since the colour balance of the scene is different. In the earlier episode it is mid-day while in the later episode it is evening/dusk. The sky even has the pink hue because of the sun setting which affects the overall colour balance of the scene. Intentional difference.

[Uber Mouse]

The colors of the season blu rays are inconsistent here is Goku in episode 31 http://imageshack.com/a/img401/6154/qai0.png and here he is in episode 30 http://imageshack.com/a/img716/2880/tlwk.png. His skin color tends to fluctuate on this set.

I know that, having watched the set the colours can be very inconsistent. It's just the original image I was replying too, he doesn't look that pink. He's pinkish but not that saturated.

As I said, It's probably just my calibration on my tv, I'm sure if I change it to just the standard setting it would look like the screenshot.

The biggest issue I have with the sets is the loss of detail in some characters clothes like Gohan and Piccolo where in some scenes it looks almost black and you can't make out any lines.

[Metalwario64]

I don't know what's with that image of Goku from the seasons blu ray but it doesn't look that bad when I watch it, he's not that pink.

I guess it could be the way I have my TV calibrated though.

The colors of the season blu rays are inconsistent here is Goku in episode 31 http://imageshack.com/a/img401/6154/qai0.png and here he is in episode 30 http://imageshack.com/a/img716/2880/tlwk.png. His skin color tends to fluctuate on this set.

Wow, the footage looks ridiculously smudged in those shots... Almost like the Orange Brick footage.

[kei17]

I wonder why episode 31 on any releases looks so worse than any other episodes.

[Attitudefan]

The problem I have is the sharpening. You can see this outline due to that filter.... bleh.

[Fizzer]

Those DNR-ed Levels shots actuallyed look really good. If they had sharper lines they'd be ideal.

Why would applying colour correction to each episode rather than to entire seasons be so bad? Funimation divided the seasons according the story and episode count, not the colouration.

[ect5150]

Why would applying colour correction to each episode rather than to entire seasons be so bad?

Not sure that they did, are we? But I'll take the standard answer of "it's more cost effective."

[dbboxkaifan]

I don't know what's with that image of Goku from the seasons blu ray but it doesn't look that bad when I watch it, he's not that pink.

I guess it could be the way I have my TV calibrated though.

That'd make sense when I used to watch my pinky Dragonboxes Z I'd tweak the settings a bit to get rid some of its blurry and pink tint to it. Oh, now I realised I shouldn't have but I did stretch the picture which now that I think about it it lowered its picture quality.

I don't stretch 4x3 AR footage to 16x9 AR any more because that's just damn ugly.

Not sure that they did, are we? But I'll take the standard answer of "it's more cost effective."

That could be it due to this being a budget (yet quality) release, still it won't look as bad as Orange Bricks' Season 2 or its missing lines.

[ect5150]

Wow, the footage looks ridiculously smudged in those shots... Almost like the Orange Brick footage.

That's what we get when DNR is applied carte blanche. It gets rid of the grain (like some people want), it's low cost (like FUNI wants) but it produces some side effects when you do it like this (like other people don't mind).

To be fair, the screen caps do look like it's an improvement over the Orange Bricks.

[final_flash]

I don't know what's with that image of Goku from the seasons blu ray but it doesn't look that bad when I watch it, he's not that pink.

I guess it could be the way I have my TV calibrated though.

Thx for the picture comparison. But is that really the color of goku on the blu ray sets in that shot? Or did it come out that color after you copied it?

That's how Goku looks in that particular shot. The colors aren't that consistent some episodes he looks pink others he looks white.

[Soul]

I got some fun for Mike and and gang to laugh at here, especially after listening to the recent podcast.
FUNi's official DBZ Facebook page links this Engadget article highlighting the release of the season one blu-ray.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/30/mut- ... _truncated

Here's the thing, that hyperlink, goes to an article from March 2009 highlighting the Japanese broadcast of Dragon Ball Kai.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/11/drag ... ead-of-ap/

[dbboxkaifan]

This was capped by a user from another website who has the BDs and these screenshots don't look good at all. Maybe on-motion it's not nearly as noticeable as when it's paused to analyse it.

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*View full picture to zoom it in

Although Piccolo's screen looks the worst out of the two, Goku's footage is too yellowed for me I know FUNimation isn't doing their best like they were on the Levels but using the same settings for all episodes and arcs will be chaotic.

Just tweaked Goku's screen on Paint.net and it looks a lot better (imo).

[SupremeSSJ]

This was capped by a user from another website who has the BDs and these screenshots don't look good at all. Maybe on-motion it's not nearly as noticeable as when it's paused to analyse it.

Spoiler:

*View full picture to zoom it in

Although Piccolo's screen looks the worst out of the two, Goku's footage is too yellowed for me I know FUNimation isn't doing their best like they were on the Levels but using the same settings for all episodes and arcs will be chaotic.

Just tweaked Goku's screen on Paint.net and it looks a lot better (imo).

Can't bring up the spoiler images.