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by kei17 » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:49 pm
I got some of the pamphlets/theatrical programs of old Dragon Ball movies, and I noticed that they had some beta character designs, different color schemes, and concept art.
Concept art from DBZ movie 1. Gohan is chasing a bird and he's not drunk.
Gohan's outfit and Biomen are colored differently.
Brainwashed Piccolo with normal eyes and a beta design of Dr. Willow.
Dr. Willow's body is closer to Toriyama's original design.
Daiz and Amond are colored differently.
Maybe I'm still missing some.
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by Tanooki Kuribo » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:56 pm
Interesting stuff. I once posted a grey Janemba but it seems be lost somewhere in this forum.
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by Tyro » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:01 pm
Wow, that's really interesting!
Tanooki Kuribo wrote:Interesting stuff. I once posted a grey Janemba but it seems be lost somewhere in this forum.
This?
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by VegettoEX » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:03 pm
Unicorn_Bazooka wrote:Where exactly are these from?
The thread title and first sentence of the first post explicitly states these are from the movies' theatrical programs.
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by kei17 » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:05 pm
Tanooki Kuribo wrote:Interesting stuff. I once posted a grey Janemba but it seems be lost somewhere in this forum.
I don't own DBZ movie 12's pamphlet, but I guess these are in it.
Also, concept art of DBZ movie 3 with beta designs of Tullece's henchmen:
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by Unicorn_Bazooka » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:14 pm
VegettoEX wrote:Unicorn_Bazooka wrote:Where exactly are these from?
The thread title and first sentence of the first post explicitly states these are from the movies' theatrical programs.
Nonono, I meant that where the actual pamphlets are from. Are they obtainable or are they just scans on the internet?
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by Gyt Kaliba » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:21 pm
Huh. Those grey Janemba pictures are particularly interesting, since I don't think those shots even exist in the finished film, do they? With all of the other pictures, they at least resemble something we actually got, but I don't recognize those ones at all.
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by Cursed Lemon » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:52 pm
Hellspawn28 wrote:I personally like the color for Janemba. He looks cooler with that color in my opinion.
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by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Nov 05, 2013 3:03 pm
These are the kind of things I really love about the franchise. It's a shame we don't get to see more if it, especially with more of the recent material. I always find concept art very interesting, as I enjoy seeing what kind of ideas were being tossed around before the final product was released. Sometimes the transition between the two is really drastic too, so I can't help but wonder how thing would have played out with original designs, like with the Dr. Uiro brain-ship thing.
Anyway, I don't know if either of these are in the theatrical programs or not, but this first image has another set of colors for Tullece's henchmen and a different hair style for Tullece himself. The second image from Daizenshuu 6 has an alternate colors for Tullece's armor and skin, as well as the dragon.
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by SaiyaJedi » Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:37 pm
It's not in a theatrical program, but the "Next Movie" page from Daizenshuu 6 has a preview for the 10th Anniversary movie featuring the Red Ribbon characters pre-Toriyama redesign, looking much closer to the way they do in the original manga. They include a white-haired Red and a Black who is still, er... black. Don't have a picture on me, but one should be able to find it somewhere on the Internet.
The sixth Daizenshuu was published in November 1995, which means that Toriyama's redesign must have happened somewhere in the six months or so between the final proofs for the book and the release of the movie in March 1996.
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by Tanooki Kuribo » Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:49 pm
Also, concept art of DBZ movie 3 with beta designs of Tullece's henchmen:
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Hmm. FUNimation actually used that image for the back of The Tree of Might DVD (Ultimate Edition).
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by JulieYBM » Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:23 pm
Wow, Daiz with a cape? That is pretty neat!!
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by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:20 pm
Unicorn_Bazooka wrote:VegettoEX wrote:Unicorn_Bazooka wrote:Where exactly are these from?
The thread title and first sentence of the first post explicitly states these are from the movies' theatrical programs.
Nonono, I meant that where the actual pamphlets are from. Are they obtainable or are they just scans on the internet?
They pop up on eBay pretty often, but be prepared to pay a ridiculous amount of money.
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by VegettoEX » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:39 pm
DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:They pop up on eBay pretty often, but be prepared to pay a ridiculous amount of money.
Or you can go to Otakon, run ahead of Heath to claim one sitting in a box in the dealer's room for cheap, and then get your just rewards when it's the DBZ Movie 4 program.
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by Kakarot88 » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:55 pm
How are these possible? What I mean is, I thought these were pictures from cels actually used in the movies and those cells are hand painted...so are there diff colored cels potentially floating around out there? did the artists repaint over those cels? did they make new cels entirely? Or am I missing something?
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by SilverPlaqueVII » Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:24 pm
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:These are the kind of things I really love about the franchise. It's a shame we don't get to see more if it, especially with more of the recent material. I always find concept art very interesting, as I enjoy seeing what kind of ideas were being tossed around before the final product was released. Sometimes the transition between the two is really drastic too, so I can't help but wonder how thing would have played out with original designs, like with the Dr. Uiro brain-ship thing.
Anyway, I don't know if either of these are in the theatrical programs or not, but this first image has another set of colors for Tullece's henchmen and a different hair style for Tullece himself. The second image from Daizenshuu 6 has an alternate colors for Tullece's armor and skin, as well as the dragon.
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The Tree of Might would count as is.
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by MDSTSSJ » Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:22 am
Hellspawn28 wrote:I personally like the color for Janemba. He looks cooler with that color in my opinion.
That Super Janemba looks very evil!! I like grey more than red!
Very interesting pics Kei. The little Dragon looks different too!
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by Tyro » Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:28 am
This kind of information is exactly what I want to see in the future wiki.
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by kei17 » Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:38 am
SaiyaJedi wrote:It's not in a theatrical program, but the "Next Movie" page from Daizenshuu 6 has a preview for the 10th Anniversary movie featuring the Red Ribbon characters pre-Toriyama redesign, looking much closer to the way they do in the original manga. They include a white-haired Red and a Black who is still, er... black. Don't have a picture on me, but one should be able to find it somewhere on the Internet.
Scanned it.
We yet don't know the reason why they changed Black's design, but I guess it has to do with
this.
