Is this real or just part of Dragon Ball GT's story?
If it's legit, then what'd happen to those moments of "we'll just bring them back again *smile* "?
Dragon Balls only to be used per each 100 years?
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Re: Dragon Balls only to be used per each 100 years?
That's Dragon Ball GT. It's used to explain how the evil dragons exist. Each time a wish is made, minus energy builds up in the DBs. It's supposed to take 100 years for enough plus energy to build up to cancel out that minus energy. But since Blooma's radar made finding the balls a snap, the balls were used so frequently that the balls built up enough minus energy to crack and release evil dragons.
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Re: Dragon Balls only to be used per each 100 years?
So it's just a GT thing not actually from the rest of DB's World.
The first Evil Dragon was rather a dirty bastard.
The first Evil Dragon was rather a dirty bastard.
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Re: Dragon Balls only to be used per each 100 years?
That's always something that didn't make sense to me. If God made them turn to stone for a year and spread out so the negative energy would disperse (which I think GT gives as an explanation), why the fuck didn't he just make it a 100 year stone period since that's what it actually takes?
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Re: Dragon Balls only to be used per each 100 years?
Because there was no reason for that. You weren't supposed to find the Dragon Balls so easily & so fast thanks to a Dragon Radar, you were supposed to search for 7 random balls in the whole world, which is extremely hard.Saiga wrote:That's always something that didn't make sense to me. If God made them turn to stone for a year and spread out so the negative energy would disperse (which I think GT gives as an explanation), why the fuck didn't he just make it a 100 year stone period since that's what it actually takes?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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I'd be lying if I said I didn't like the concept. Only thing I liked about GT
Re: Dragon Balls only to be used per each 100 years?
It still makes no sense not to take that precaution. 100 year stone period is far more reliable than "well, they've been scattered, so it's possible that they won't be used more than once every 100 years, even though that's abso-fucking-lutely up to chance and if I'm wrong the universe will be destroyed. Job done!".DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Because there was no reason for that. You weren't supposed to find the Dragon Balls so easily & so fast thanks to a Dragon Radar, you were supposed to search for 7 random balls in the whole world, which is extremely hard.Saiga wrote:That's always something that didn't make sense to me. If God made them turn to stone for a year and spread out so the negative energy would disperse (which I think GT gives as an explanation), why the fuck didn't he just make it a 100 year stone period since that's what it actually takes?
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Re: Dragon Balls only to be used per each 100 years?
Well, if the Dragon Balls needed 100 years to recharge, it would take thousands of years to find them. I guess Kami never thought that it would be possible for the DBs to be detected, especially with the available technology at the point he created them.Saiga wrote:It still makes no sense not to take that precaution. 100 year stone period is far more reliable than "well, they've been scattered, so it's possible that they won't be used more than once every 100 years, even though that's abso-fucking-lutely up to chance and if I'm wrong the universe will be destroyed. Job done!".
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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If that was the case, why even create them? They wouldn't get used. And the King (or his ancestor) at least managed to gather them, presumably without taking that long. The simple matter is that even ignoring technology, it's possible for them to get overused and there is absolutely no way of knowing how often they'd be used. That's simply a huge risk. 100 year stone period? Zero risk at all, and there's no reason not to. The only reason you'd make it as shorter is if they're meant to be used more often and they're not according to GT. Just saying "well scattering is probably enough" is not a good enough reason to neglect a sure-fire and vastly superior solution.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Well, if the Dragon Balls needed 100 years to recharge, it would take thousands of years to find them. I guess Kami never thought that it would be possible for the DBs to be detected, especially with the available technology at the point he created them.Saiga wrote:It still makes no sense not to take that precaution. 100 year stone period is far more reliable than "well, they've been scattered, so it's possible that they won't be used more than once every 100 years, even though that's abso-fucking-lutely up to chance and if I'm wrong the universe will be destroyed. Job done!".
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Re: Dragon Balls only to be used per each 100 years?
What makes you say that?Saiga wrote:And the King (or his ancestor) at least managed to gather them, presumably without taking that long.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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The reason why they turn to stone has nothing to do with cleansing their evil. Its simply a limitation of their power, like not being able to grant the same wish twice or granting wishes that involve more power than the power of its creator. It is not a characteristic designed to cleanse their evil. In fact, we don't even know if they can be cleansed of their evil while in stone form, perhaps that can only happen slowly in their normal state.
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Wasn't that said at the start of Dragon Ball?DBZGTKOSDH wrote:What makes you say that?Saiga wrote:And the King (or his ancestor) at least managed to gather them, presumably without taking that long.
I was under the impression that GT changed that into being related to the negative energy aspect.The reason why they turn to stone has nothing to do with cleansing their evil. Its simply a limitation of their power, like not being able to grant the same wish twice or granting wishes that involve more power than the power of its creator. It is not a characteristic designed to cleanse their evil. In fact, we don't even know if they can be cleansed of their evil while in stone form, perhaps that can only happen slowly in their normal state.
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Re: Dragon Balls only to be used per each 100 years?
I'm talking about the "without taking that long" part. What makes you say that?Saiga wrote:Wasn't that said at the start of Dragon Ball?DBZGTKOSDH wrote:What makes you say that?Saiga wrote:And the King (or his ancestor) at least managed to gather them, presumably without taking that long.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Because he'd be dead if he did?DBZGTKOSDH wrote: I'm talking about the "without taking that long" part. What makes you say that?
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Re: Dragon Balls only to be used per each 100 years?
We can't know if he alone collected them. Maybe his father starting searching, but after his death, he finished his father's journey. Ιt could have started even further in the past.Saiga wrote:Because he'd be dead if he did?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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That doesn't seem to be what is implied by saying he collected them, without mention of anyone else's assistance. Especially something important like that.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:We can't know if he alone collected them. Maybe his father starting searching, but after his death, he finished his father's journey. Ιt could have started even further in the past.Saiga wrote:Because he'd be dead if he did?
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Re: Dragon Balls only to be used per each 100 years?
Bulma just said "the last guy who collected them became a king!". We don't know any details at all.Saiga wrote:That doesn't seem to be what is implied by saying he collected them, without mention of anyone else's assistance. Especially something important like that.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Hmm, don't really remember it that way. If that is related, then, like you said, it doesn't make much sense.Saiga wrote:
I was under the impression that GT changed that into being related to the negative energy aspect.
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Re: Dragon Balls only to be used per each 100 years?
What exactly is the science that goes into creating a Dragon Radar? How did a 16 year old girl (Bulma) come up with the blueprints for designing such an invention? If dragonballs were supposed to be "hard" to find, how did a young girl turn it into childsplay?
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Her dad loves science. Most likely engineer science as well. She found one dragonball. Did some studying of it. Made a device for stuff similar. Trail and error. Then once it was 100% she named it radar. Speaking of which. Why did Kami create the dragonballs in the first place? Seems so random once we learned he was a Namekian.GogetaSSJ2 wrote:What exactly is the science that goes into creating a Dragon Radar? How did a 16 year old girl (Bulma) come up with the blueprints for designing such an invention? If dragonballs were supposed to be "hard" to find, how did a young girl turn it into childsplay?