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Question for fans of the Japanese soundtrack only please!

Post by samuraix123 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:49 pm

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I have a question for fans of the Japanese soundtrack only. What's your opinion on the new score of the Boo saga of Kai? Is it getting received well by the fans in Japan? I personally like it a-lot! I think ''so far'' I like it more than the Yamamoto and probably more than the Bruce Faulconer.
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Re: Question for fans of the Japanese soundtrack only please

Post by eledoremassis02 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:51 pm

For me, I like it but at the same time some of the tracks give the show a very 80's fee; (ironically) but the more I hear it the more I like. I really like the last track that was on Episode 100

I wonder if there gonna do another replacement score with the other Kai episodes (probably now)

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Post by samuraix123 » Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:02 am

eledoremassis02 wrote:For me, I like it but at the same time some of the tracks give the show a very 80's fee; (ironically) but the more I hear it the more I like. I really like the last track that was on Episode 100

I wonder if there gonna do another replacement score with the other Kai episodes (probably now)
If they did I'd almost consider re-buying it. :P I'd have to think about it but I do like the new score a-lot.
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Re: Question for fans of the Japanese soundtrack only please

Post by dbboxkaifan » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:35 am

I somewhat like it but that picture quality is mediocre (for an HD remaster) which makes it unbearable to watch, still, I'm hoping the Blu-ray gets it a little better than the TV broadcast if I end up purchasing it (the price would have to be reasonable, ofc).

I'm not going to bother with the rest of the Majin Boo Kai as episode 01 has shown me what I wanted to see and hear.
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Post by JackyBoi99 » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:57 am

^^exactly, although I might follow for a few more episodes then wait until the entire buu arc is available in english sub.
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Re: Question for fans of the Japanese soundtrack only please

Post by penguintruth » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:06 am

I adore the new OP and ED, but frankly the new BGM leaves me cold. It's pretty bland, either by composition or instrumentation, boring me to tears when I hear it.
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samuraix123 wrote:I have a question for fans of the Japanese soundtrack only. What's your opinion on the new score of the Boo saga of Kai?
The score itself.
First impression: Flat, cheesy, boring, cheap. It did not generate any emotions. I neither like or dislike it. I will make my final opinion after I hear more of it.

An idea to change BGM.
Due to the fact that I'm a fan of the original show (I like everything about it), I'm always against such ideas. I'm too lazy to elaborate my thought, so I will jump straight to an example: Can you imagine a remaster of Dr. No that contains different, more modern soundtrack without the famous James Bond theme? It works exactly the same in any other cases. If something achieved "classic status" for you, you do not accept any changes.

I just cannot feel Dragon Ball atmosphere without Kikuchi's music. When I watch the show, I NEED to hear specific music pieces which I relate to the specific scenes (Gohan flies to school). Even if the new score would be way superior - it is not Dragon Ball. It does not work for me. Original score is the thing about the show I like the most.

I'm calling this "changing BGM" because I do not consider Kai to be a different, standalone product. It is edited Dragon Ball Z. I'm complaining on all changes and flaws only because Kai has a really big influence on the original series (popularity, distribution, potential HD release etc.). This is something that we are getting instead of Dragon Ball Z (for now) and I'm not happy with this replacement. I can accept everything, but only if it does not harm the thing I prefer.

Give us a decent HD release of the original show and after it, you may do what you want - That's my message to Toei Animation. And really... there is no Bū saga without the following:

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Re: Question for fans of the Japanese soundtrack only please

Post by Ajay » Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:18 am

OP and ED are really nice but the score itself is garbage.

It's so painfully uninspired and cheap sounding. The only tracks I've actively enjoyed have been the one during the baseball game in episode 1 and the one that played just before episode 2 ended.

Why?

Because they both sounded full and real. Everything else sounds like a kid in their basement playing around in FruityLoops.

I'm entirely baffled how anyone can put this above Yamamoto's work. Especially considering the horrible Faulconer-esque tracks that keep popping up here and there. That shit needs to go.
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Re: Question for fans of the Japanese soundtrack only please

Post by AnzuMazaki » Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:54 am

I think Shunsuke Kikuchi's music will ALWAYS be the best in Dragonball.
They should have kept using it in Kai during the Buu saga.

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Re: Question for fans of the Japanese soundtrack only please

Post by JackyBoi99 » Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:00 am

Hahahaha that is pretty much the best description of Faulconer :lol: :lol:
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Re: Question for fans of the Japanese soundtrack only please

Post by JackyBoi99 » Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:01 am

Would have loved the great man kikuchi to come back :( .
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Re: Question for fans of the Japanese soundtrack only please

Post by dbboxkaifan » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:46 pm

It doesn't even make sense to hire Shunsuke Kikuchi for Majin Boo Kai because it's obvious that Toei Animation decided to put as less effort as possible into this. It's clearly visible when you look at its picture quality, soundtrack and OP/ED animation.

Majin Boo Kai will attract the attention of only some Dragon Ball fans and that's it, I'd be surprised if a casual viewer got interested watching this out of the blue.
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Re: Question for fans of the Japanese soundtrack only please

Post by penguintruth » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:56 pm

No, it would make sense to hire Kikuchi to do new music, but they're just too cheap to do it.

What's Kikuchi up to, anyway? Is he retired? I'd hate to ruin a guy's retirement, but wake him up! Shake him out of bed, put a pen in his hand, some music composition paper in front of him, and get him to work, damn it.

Or, you know, at least get an orchestra to play the music Sumitomo composes.

But hey, Kai just came back, and these early episodes are just fluff and candy farts, and maybe Sumitomo's A game comes when the plot really kicks in.
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Post by TheKingOfKamehamehas » Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:11 pm

I think Shunsuke Kiskuchie is retired ATM. He is a pretty old guy like over 83 years old? I think his last time he worked was in Doraemon. DBZ Kai doesn't count because he didn't compose any new pieces for it. Actually when I think about it, I wonder what role he had in Kai Replacement Score, probably nothing and did he have a reaction to Kenji Yamamoto. I am pretty sure he doesn't go to conventions.
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Re: Question for fans of the Japanese soundtrack only please

Post by dbboxkaifan » Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:33 pm

In terms of quality Majin Boo Kai just isn't worthy of having Kikuchi make new music for it but would it be nice? Sure hell yeah, that'd be a reason enough to force myself to watch it.
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Re: Question for fans of the Japanese soundtrack only please

Post by Fionordequester » Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:22 pm

Hey, if I may, how come only fans of the Japanese soundtrack can weigh in on this? It seems like a question that would be easy enough whether you ever heard Kikuchi or not, so I'm just confused.
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Post by Valerius Dover » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:13 am

TheKingOfKamehamehas wrote:I think Shunsuke Kiskuchie is retired ATM. He is a pretty old guy like over 83 years old? I think his last time he worked was in Doraemon. DBZ Kai doesn't count because he didn't compose any new pieces for it. Actually when I think about it, I wonder what role he had in Kai Replacement Score, probably nothing and did he have a reaction to Kenji Yamamoto. I am pretty sure he doesn't go to conventions.
Actually, I can't even seem to find out anything about the guy. He's really mysterious in that regard. No disclosure of personal life, no interviews, no sign of him in group shots anywhere.....

Am I allowed to post here? I haven't seen Z or GT with the original score yet (still on my to-do list), but I have seen DB, and I'm a fan of the score present there. So, what does Sumitomo's score sound like? Is it anything like Tokunaga's work in DB Movie 4?
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Re: Question for fans of the Japanese soundtrack only please

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Fionordequester wrote:Hey, if I may, how come only fans of the Japanese soundtrack can weigh in on this? It seems like a question that would be easy enough whether you ever heard Kikuchi or not, so I'm just confused.
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Nah I'm just messing with you. I'm guessing he wants to avoid someone from posting: "Japanese score sucks!" Or something to that effect. Me personally I'm a fan of both soundtracks. SHOCKING RIGHT?! I'm not however a fan of the new KAI or the music before the BFaulconer stuff started. (Can't remember his name, but it's episodes 1-50/60ish)
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Post by Ajay » Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:27 am

Fionordequester wrote:Hey, if I may, how come only fans of the Japanese soundtrack can weigh in on this? It seems like a question that would be easy enough whether you ever heard Kikuchi or not, so I'm just confused.
I believe that, due to the many comparisons to Faulconer's work, he expects fans of the US track to automatically like Sumitomo's work. I guess he wanted an opinion from those who are more favourable towards Kikuchi.
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Re: Question for fans of the Japanese soundtrack only please

Post by kei17 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:47 am

samuraix123 wrote:What's your opinion on the new score of the Boo saga of Kai? Is it getting received well by the fans in Japan?
The Japanese fans love the Kikuchi score more than you think. A lot of them despised the Yamamoto score even before the plagiarism being found out. Now they aren't fond of the new one, too.

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