Should they ignore GT?

Hellspawn28 · Post by **Hellspawn28** » Thu May 15, 2014 11:07 pm

I notice lately that a few people feel like that they should not be discounting GT and stuff from Toei in recent DB media. Should they retcon GT for good and the movies before Battle of Gods as well? GT is the least popular DB show out of the three and it wasn't popular when it came out. The ratings were lower then they expected and the merchandise at the time didn't do that great neither. If the show didn't do that bad as some people make it out to be then Toei won't end the franchise after 1997. Toei will keep on making something as long if it keeping on selling. For the example, they keep the Super Sentai/Power Rangers franchise keep on going when some of the shows completely bombed.

I won't mind if they ignore GT for good and have AT do his own original ideas. Other franchises have ignore their own bad sequel or sequels in their franchises. Star Trek ignore Star Trek V, Highlander ignore Highlander 2, both Predators and Promethues ignore the AVP films, the new Universal Solider movies ignores Universal Soldier: The Return and Superman Returns ignores the sequels after Superman II. If they ever do ignore GT, it's not like GT is gone forever. You can still watch it on DVD or on the web.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Thu May 15, 2014 11:23 pm

I'm ok with ignoring it. I'm kind of indifferent to gt. I guess the only thing I'd really miss from it is ssj4. I liked four in part because it wasn't another golden haired form (and really what more can you do appearance-wise after ssj3?). I wouldn't mind a re-purposing of ssj4, but I have no ideas currently as to how.

Post by **TheDevilsCorpse** » Fri May 16, 2014 12:08 am

I wouldn't mind too much if they chose to ignore it, but I would prefer if they didn't...unless they were going to remake it with Toriyama actually overseeing it like he did Battle of Gods. Maybe not full on script writing like he did with the film, but a lot more creative input than he had the first time around.

NitroEX · Post by **NitroEX** » Fri May 16, 2014 12:21 am

Yeah they should ignore it. By ignoring GT the fans will have a newer and better sequel to look forward to. There's little room for story expansion after GT but the end of Z is very open ended so it would be good to start from there again IMO.

I say just treat GT as an alternate universe or something.

KentalSSJ6 · Post by **KentalSSJ6** » Fri May 16, 2014 12:23 am

As long as SSJ4 is somehow salvaged and use again in the future I wouldn't mind.

sintzu · Post by **sintzu** » Fri May 16, 2014 12:28 am

They'r ignoring z so ignoring gt is a givin at this point

KentalSSJ6 wrote:As long as SSJ4 is somehow salvaged and use again in the future I wouldn't mind.

We arn't going to see ssj2/3 anymore let alone 4

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I wouldn't mind too much if they chose to ignore it, but I would prefer if they didn't...unless they were going to remake it with Toriyama actually overseeing it like he did Battle of Gods.

Yeah cause that turend out so well didn't it ?

I think the best thing they can do is get someone who knows the story and charecters and keep toriyama away from it

Chuquita wrote: I wouldn't mind a re-purposing of ssj4, but I have no ideas currently as to how.

Have the elder kai release goku and vegeta's hidden powers but insted of looking like gohan they have the ssj'4 design cause they'r full blooded saiyans

KentalSSJ6 · Post by **KentalSSJ6** » Fri May 16, 2014 12:35 am

sintzu wrote:They'r ignoring z so ignoring gt is a givin at this point

KentalSSJ6 wrote:As long as SSJ4 is somehow salvaged and use again in the future I wouldn't mind.
We arn't going to see ssj2/3 anymore let alone 4

We dont know that. Chronologically SSJ4 comes after SSJG in the timeline and anything can happen in the gap between Z and GT. Nothing says SSJ4 will never appear again.

Post by **TheDevilsCorpse** » Fri May 16, 2014 1:15 am

sintzu wrote:
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I wouldn't mind too much if they chose to ignore it, but I would prefer if they didn't...unless they were going to remake it with Toriyama actually overseeing it like he did Battle of Gods.
Yeah cause that turend out so well didn't it ?

I think the best thing they can do is get someone who knows the story and charecters and keep toriyama away from it

Yeah, it did. Contrary to your opinion, there are people who liked Battle of Gods. To me, it turned out great. The characters really feel like the ones from the manga. I hope Toriyama stays involved with the franchise for as long as possible, even if he causes a little chaos along the way.

jda95 · Post by **jda95** » Fri May 16, 2014 1:21 am

With the way the franchise is going right now I'm pretty sure a full-on confirmation that GT is non-canonical is not on the cards any time soon. Just look at Dragon Ball Heroes - GT has been and continues to be an important part of that part of the franchise, and there wouldn't be a great reaction from the thousands of Japanese children (that print a LOT of money) that a large part of the game isn't really Dragon Ball (and that isn't mentioning every other game that features GT characters). Battle of Gods and most recent Toriyama stuff (other than Online backstory, which as we all know completely ignores it) haven't acknowledged it specifically but I think they're at least making small efforts to make sure they don't discount it entirely.

sintzu · Post by **sintzu** » Fri May 16, 2014 4:10 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote: Yeah, it did. Contrary to your opinion, there are people who liked Battle of Gods. To me, it turned out great. The characters really feel like the ones from the manga. I hope Toriyama stays involved with the franchise for as long as possible, even if he causes a little chaos along the way.

Don't get me wrong the movie was fun but not amazing

jda95 wrote:I think they're at least making small efforts to make sure they don't discount it entirely.

Having goku and the others not go ssj2/3 again would explain why they didn't in gt

TheGmGoken · Post by **TheGmGoken** » Fri May 16, 2014 7:22 am

I honestly think we will se SSJ4 again but under the Z title. It might or might not be called Ssj4 though.

Also don't Saint Seiya and Metal Gear ignore or recton their "GT ". Like stuff that wasn't made by creator,

Low Tone G · Post by **Low Tone G** » Fri May 16, 2014 7:43 am

Having goku and the others not go ssj2/3 again would explain why they didn't in gt

They did, Goku and Vegeta did used their SSJ2 forms and Goku used his SSJ3 too. Vegeta used SSJ2 against Super 17, and Goku against Rildo, and SSJ3 against Super Vegeta-Baby 1 AND 2. But after ascending to SSJ4 Goku didn't use only his simple SSJ against Super 17 in the first clash.

Anyway, returning to the topic. I wouldn't be worried to ignored GT, but I'd really miss the final part when Goku leaves with Shenlon. If someting happens and they will to till the beginning of GT and they ignore it I'd be fine with Goku to have some ending like it was in the GT.

sintzu · Post by **sintzu** » Fri May 16, 2014 8:32 am

Low Tone G wrote:
Having goku and the others not go ssj2/3 again would explain why they didn't in gt
They did, Goku and Vegeta did used their SSJ2 forms and Goku used his SSJ3 too. Vegeta used SSJ2 against Super 17, and Goku against Rildo, and SSJ3 against Super Vegeta-Baby 1 AND 2. But after ascending to SSJ4 Goku didn't use only his simple SSJ against Super 17 in the first clash.

I know goku did but not much and didn't the gt perfect files say that vegeta and gohan were ssj's only ?

Luso Saiyan · Post by **Luso Saiyan** » Fri May 16, 2014 8:37 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:Should they retcon GT for good and the movies before Battle of Gods as well?

Yes, in my opinion there is nothing worth saving on those. And as long as AT is involved, it will always be worth checking out.

Low Tone G · Post by **Low Tone G** » Fri May 16, 2014 8:44 am

sintzu wrote:
Low Tone G wrote:
Having goku and the others not go ssj2/3 again would explain why they didn't in gt
They did, Goku and Vegeta did used their SSJ2 forms and Goku used his SSJ3 too. Vegeta used SSJ2 against Super 17, and Goku against Rildo, and SSJ3 against Super Vegeta-Baby 1 AND 2. But after ascending to SSJ4 Goku didn't use only his simple SSJ against Super 17 in the first clash.

I know goku did but not much and didn't the gt perfect files say that vegeta and gohan were ssj's only ?

Maybe, but it's certain that Goku used his 3 forms.

Makaioshin · Post by **Makaioshin** » Fri May 16, 2014 8:46 am

Well, if Toriyama continues to be at the helm of the new Dragon World then I expect it to be ignored like the Bardock TV special was. At the same time I don't expect the new stories to actually move beyond the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai like GT did. The story will probably continue to be set in the era between the end of the Boo arc and the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai.

dbgtFO · Post by **dbgtFO** » Fri May 16, 2014 9:29 am

Makaioshin wrote:Well, if Toriyama continues to be at the helm of the new Dragon World then I expect it to be ignored like the Bardock TV special was. At the same time I don't expect the new stories to actually move beyond the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai like GT did. The story will probably continue to be set in the era between the end of the Boo arc and the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai.

Yes, pretty much this and given that my name is anti GT(dragon ball gtF***Off) it's no wonder, that this approach delights me.

UltimateHammerBro · Post by **UltimateHammerBro** » Fri May 16, 2014 11:45 am

dbgtFO wrote:Yes, pretty much this and given that my name is anti GT(dragon ball gtF***Off) it's no wonder, that this approach delights me.

I thought it standed for "Get the F*** Out"

RandomGuy96 · Post by **RandomGuy96** » Fri May 16, 2014 1:44 pm

I'd rather they ignore BOG.

TheGmGoken · Post by **TheGmGoken** » Fri May 16, 2014 1:48 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:I'd rather they ignore BOG.

They should build a time machine and prevent Toei from making that garbage

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