It is wrong, Cell have Saiyan genes but he is not a Saiyan, also Super Kanzentai is better than Super PerfectDyno wrote:Yes, when he got back from his explosion, you can tell Cell is as Super Saiyan 2. It is not wrong calling him like that and... I prefer that one over "Super Perfect".Kakarot9001 wrote:SSJ2 Cell?
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Then why does he have a gold aura? Why does he have a lightning aura? Why does he suffer Zenkai? Yes, Saiyans' cells make him be a Saiyan, an artificial Saiyan.
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This has to be explained? Ssj2 is just a chain or upgrade of SSJ. Hence the name SSJ2. Super Saiyan God looks like Kaioken 2.0 or a remake of Kaioken. You can't compare two forms that's RELATED to two forms that has NOTHING in common except Gods made the form. Maybe that's why they look alike.Kamiccolo9 wrote:Oddly enough, I don't see any of the people bitching that SSJ God is "basically Kaio-Ken" getting on to this for being SSJ with a couple of sparks added.
It's like saying "Why do people not complain that the PS3 conreoller looks the same but different from the ps2 controller yet they bitch about the WiiU look like an Xbox.".
On topic: SSJ2 has always been my favorite. Even in video games. It looks badass on EVERYONE.
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SSJ2 was cool with Goku and Kid Gohan. Kid Gohan rocked it best since it was drastically different from his SSJ form. Goku when drawn right also looks significantly different. Vegeta however looks pretty much the same...he kinda always had that disadvantage with Super Saiyan forms. Adult Gohan also has Vegeta's issue he pretty much looks the same in all his states. Adult Gohan used to have two bangs to distinguish, but for some reason that concept was dropped.
I woulda liked SSJ2 to differentiate more between everyone who's not Kid Gohan, but overall it brought the cool lightning aura which was a really nice touch.
I woulda liked SSJ2 to differentiate more between everyone who's not Kid Gohan, but overall it brought the cool lightning aura which was a really nice touch.
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All of this. Minus the fact that I watched the anime first. The whole sequence with SSJ2 Gohan from the beauty of the transformation to the personality he acquired with it made the transforming so amazing and stunning and amongst the best Super Saiyan transformation (right under SSJ4). The Majin Vegeta sequence was just as epic, but after that the transformation really took a nose dive, much more than any other in the series due to how indistinguishable it became. But still, great stuff!Black Hawk wrote:Super Saiyajin 2 is my favorite Saiyajin transformation because, when I first read the Dragon Ball manga, unlike Super Saiyajin (which I was expecting and saw coming) and Super Saiyajin 3 (which I at first found strange but grew to love), SSJ2's first appearance caught me completely off-guard. I'd expected that No. 16's death would simply cause Son Gohan to fight seriously and begin to overpower Cell; I wasn't expecting Gohan to ascend to a completely new level. Years later, watching the same scene unfold in the anime with Unmei no Hi ~ Tamashii VS Tamashii ~ playing made me love it even more.
The form's last hurrah in the battle between Gokū and Vegeta made me love SSJ2 all the more, simply because it was a clash between two SSJ2.
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That is why I always was in favor of Vegeta having bangs, just like his childhood. It would help to differ both forms.
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Nah, Toriyama should just have kept Vegeta's Super Saiyan design from the early Cell arc. Instead his hair got too detailed, so much so that there isn't that big a difference between his SS forms in the Buu Arc.Dyno wrote:That is why I always was in favor of Vegeta having bangs, just like his childhood. It would help to differ both forms.
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That Super Saiyan from early Androids arc is the "real" Super Saiyan. Then, that Super Saiyan from Buu arc is the "Full-Power Super Saiyan" as it is called so by guides. There are differences though they are the same thing.
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He has not in BoGDyno wrote:That is why I always was in favor of Vegeta having bangs, just like his childhood. It would help to differ both forms.
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One scan says it's Super saiyan grade 4 so I think it's not same. [PORNOGRAHPIC IMAGE REMOVED BY MODERATOR. USER BANNED.]Dyno wrote:That Super Saiyan from early Androids arc is the "real" Super Saiyan. Then, that Super Saiyan from Buu arc is the "Full-Power Super Saiyan" as it is called so by guides. There are differences though they are the same thing.
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^That "Kid" Vegeta is so bad drawn.
Its just BOG Vegeta with Kid Vegeta outfit. He doesn't look a kid at all in that flashback...
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Its just BOG Vegeta with Kid Vegeta outfit. He doesn't look a kid at all in that flashback...
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One scan says it's Super saiyan grade 4 so I think it's not same. [PORNOGRAHPIC IMAGE REMOVED BY MODERATOR. USER BANNED.][/quote]DieHard wrote:He has not in BoGDyno wrote:That is why I always was in favor of Vegeta having bangs, just like his childhood. It would help to differ both forms.
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Dyno wrote:That Super Saiyan from early Androids arc is the "real" Super Saiyan. Then, that Super Saiyan from Buu arc is the "Full-Power Super Saiyan" as it is called so by guides. There are differences though they are the same thing.
Even though, I will always consider Vegeta having bangs in his childhood, it is so much better.
What and where is this "scan"? Because... Well, they are the same, it is just the Super Saiyan "mastered".
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This is scan, I don't have a translation.
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Maybe it is an alternate name, but Super Saiyan from Android saga and Super Saiyan (or Full-Power Super Saiyan) from Buu saga are pretty much the same transformations.
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But this scan is saying it is something else like Grade 2 or 3 or Broli. [PORNOGRAHPIC IMAGE REMOVED BY MODERATOR. USER BANNED.]
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Pretty sure that's an anime scan made around the time SSJ2 or so didn't have a name. Essentially they called SSJ2 Grade 5 at the time. Full power Super Saiyan is just Super Saiyan form, without the strain. It's just a term to describe how Goku and Gohan could now utilizing their Super Saiyan form to the fullest, without worrying about stress on their bodies or energy drain.DieHard wrote:But this scan is saying it is something else like Grade 2 or 3 or Broli. [PORNOGRAHPIC IMAGE REMOVED BY MODERATOR. USER BANNED.]
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I kind of remembered now the "Full-Power Super Saiyan" term came out after Buu saga started. They are the same thing, indeed. Grade 2 and Grade 3 are those "Ascended" and "Ultra" Super Saiyans.
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It really shouldn't if you saw what the image was.Cursed Lemon wrote:Having "pornographic image removed by moderator, user banned" plastered all over this page is making me giggle right now.
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Great, now I'm curiousLord Beerus wrote: It really shouldn't if you saw what the image was.
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Don't be curious.rereboy wrote:Great, now I'm curiousLord Beerus wrote: It really shouldn't if you saw what the image was.
Please, for the love of God...
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