Who are the top 5 possible strongest characters?
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Re: Who are the top 5 possible strongest characters?
BOG is a load too, yet you included that. Anyway, Gohan isn't #5 if you count BOG. Super Buu is.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
Re: Who are the top 5 possible strongest characters?
Don't see how BOG is a load. Why is he not #5? And how does Evil Boo factor into this?RandomGuy96 wrote:BOG is a load too, yet you included that. Anyway, Gohan isn't #5 if you count BOG. Super Buu is.
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Re: Who are the top 5 possible strongest characters?
Buuhan's stronger than Gohan. Since everyone seems to be including fusions, there's really no reason to discount Buu.Hitiro wrote:Don't see how BOG is a load. Why is he not #5? And how does Evil Boo factor into this?RandomGuy96 wrote:BOG is a load too, yet you included that. Anyway, Gohan isn't #5 if you count BOG. Super Buu is.
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Re: Who are the top 5 possible strongest characters?
Boo is the strongest possible, because he can absorb whoever would be the most powerful.
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Re: Who are the top 5 possible strongest characters?
Not necessarily. We don't know how Buu would react to Whis, Beerus, or Godku's god ki. For all we know, they're as incompatible as Dai Kaioshin, East Kaioshin, or Kibito are.Saiga wrote:Boo is the strongest possible, because he can absorb whoever would be the most powerful.
And if we're including all possible permutations of Buu, then we could go even further and say "Buu with everyone except one person absorbed Potara fused with some random guy he left out." Because that would be stronger than any absorption of Buu.
I don't see the point in this thread if we're going into the realm of hypothetical characters. Because you can always one-up practically anything if there are no limits on what can be used.
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Re: Who are the top 5 possible strongest characters?
Wouldn't potara fusions among Goku, Vegeta, Beerus, and Whis pretty much take all 5 spots?
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Re: Who are the top 5 possible strongest characters?
Nah, because then you could have a Buu that absorbed those fusions. And then a Cell that absorbed that Buu. And then that Cell potara fused with an alternate reality SSJG Vegetto. And then you could have a Super 17 that absorbed that Cell fusion. And so on, and so forth.dbzfan7 wrote:Wouldn't potara fusions among Goku, Vegeta, Beerus, and Whis pretty much take all 5 spots?
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Re: Who are the top 5 possible strongest characters?
It's at least as much of a load as GT. It's pretty hypocritical to condemn one and then include the other.Hitiro wrote:Don't see how BOG is a load. Why is he not #5? And how does Evil Boo factor into this?RandomGuy96 wrote:BOG is a load too, yet you included that. Anyway, Gohan isn't #5 if you count BOG. Super Buu is.
Super Buu is stronger than Gohan in his two strongest forms (Buutenks, Buuhan). Since you're including fusions anyway, he should be in the top five. Not Gohan.
Super Saiyan 4 God Baby Majin Atrocious Kaio-Ken Super Buu [Super Saiyan 4 God Gogetto absorbed] [Everyone else absorbed] [Elder Kaioshin's Power-Up] [Guru's Power-Up] [Scouter] [Late].Kamiccolo9 wrote:Not necessarily. We don't know how Buu would react to Whis, Beerus, or Godku's god ki. For all we know, they're as incompatible as Dai Kaioshin, East Kaioshin, or Kibito are.Saiga wrote:Boo is the strongest possible, because he can absorb whoever would be the most powerful.
And if we're including all possible permutations of Buu, then we could go even further and say "Buu with everyone except one person absorbed Potara fused with some random guy he left out." Because that would be stronger than any absorption of Buu.
I don't see the point in this thread if we're going into the realm of hypothetical characters. Because you can always one-up practically anything if there are no limits on what can be used.
The top five will remain unchanged, however:
1. Tori-Bot
2. Mr. Satan (your tricks won't work on him)
3. LSS Infinity Broly Is Maximum
4. Videl (born from Satan's mighty seed)
5. Base Goku
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
Re: Who are the top 5 possible strongest characters?
Vegetto is the strongest, because the more they wank Goku (and they will never stop wanking Goku), the stronger Vegetto becomes.
Re: Who are the top 5 possible strongest characters?
Throw in other dimensions and time travel and it never endsKamiccolo9 wrote:Nah, because then you could have a Buu that absorbed those fusions. And then a Cell that absorbed that Buu. And then that Cell potara fused with an alternate reality SSJG Vegetto. And then you could have a Super 17 that absorbed that Cell fusion. And so on, and so forth.dbzfan7 wrote:Wouldn't potara fusions among Goku, Vegeta, Beerus, and Whis pretty much take all 5 spots?
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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Re: Who are the top 5 possible strongest characters?
Not until they reveal that Vegeta held back Goku's power in that fusion.Rocketman wrote:Vegetto is the strongest, because the more they wank Goku (and they will never stop wanking Goku), the stronger Vegetto becomes.
Well, GT might've already done that by having Goku be stronger than Vegetto.
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Re: Who are the top 5 possible strongest characters?
GT Goku's not stronger than Vegetto, though. SS4 Goku is AT BEST roughly equal to Super Vegetto's fuckin' around level against Gohan-Buu.Saiga wrote:Well, GT might've already done that by having Goku be stronger than Vegetto.
Re: Who are the top 5 possible strongest characters?
Not really.RandomGuy96 wrote:It's at least as much of a load as GT. It's pretty hypocritical to condemn one and then include the other.
I left Boohan out because Evil Boo doesn't exist anymore. He isn't a "possible" character anymore. I would not include Pure Boo in a possible strongest list any more either considering he doesn't exist any more either. I suppose if we're talking possibilities then it would make sense that SSJG Gohan would be an interesting strength.RandomGuy96 wrote:Super Buu is stronger than Gohan in his two strongest forms (Buutenks, Buuhan). Since you're including fusions anyway, he should be in the top five. Not Gohan.
The GT Perfect files has SSJ Vegetto as strong as SSJ4 Goku.Saiga wrote:Well, GT might've already done that by having Goku be stronger than Vegetto.
Re: Who are the top 5 possible strongest characters?
Additionally, it is Super Saiyan 4 Kakarot from Baby saga to be more precisely. Super Saiyan 4 Kakarot from the Evil Dragons saga is way more powerful than that Vegeto.Hitiro wrote:SSJ Vegetto as strong as SSJ4 Goku.
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Re: Who are the top 5 possible strongest characters?
Super Buu & Bebi have the most potential since they can keep getting stronger by absorbing/infecting people. There's no limit to how powerful they can become. An argument could be made that Android 19 & Super 17 have unlimited potential due to their energy absorption ability, but to me they are like balloons, if you give them too much air they'll eventually pop.
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Re: Who are the top 5 possible strongest characters?
Super Baby 1 says he has the greatest saiyan power, and Goku calls Super Baby 1 the greatest ki he ever felt.
So Super Baby 1 > Super Vegetto
So Super Baby 1 > Super Vegetto
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Re: Who are the top 5 possible strongest characters?
And now for something completely wrong (well most people will see it as wrong but off the top of my head these are the strongest characters I can think of)
Excluding non-canon characters and also transformations/fusions to make this easier
1) Whis
2) Beerus
3) Goku
4) Kid Boo (Super Boo is only stronger when fused)
5) Vegeta (possibly stronger than Gohan due to his more constant training...I assume...does training even make a difference anymore? I am so confused right now )
Is Gohan stronger than Gotenks?
Is Pan stronger than everyone in her family?
Is Oob the strongest or was that a COMPLETE LIE?
And here I thought I knew a lot about Dragon Ball (I do admit to not really caring about the exact power level of each character at each point in the story though)
Excluding non-canon characters and also transformations/fusions to make this easier
1) Whis
2) Beerus
3) Goku
4) Kid Boo (Super Boo is only stronger when fused)
5) Vegeta (possibly stronger than Gohan due to his more constant training...I assume...does training even make a difference anymore? I am so confused right now )
Is Gohan stronger than Gotenks?
Is Pan stronger than everyone in her family?
Is Oob the strongest or was that a COMPLETE LIE?
And here I thought I knew a lot about Dragon Ball (I do admit to not really caring about the exact power level of each character at each point in the story though)
Re: Who are the top 5 possible strongest characters?
I don't think it actually says which version of SSJ4 Goku, SSJ Vegetto was as strong as. It could be Bebi or the Evil Dragons saga. But it doesn't matter anyway, I think. Because there is no proof that Goku increased in strength between these arcs. He could still be the same strength he was when he went up against Bebi.Dyno wrote:Additionally, it is Super Saiyan 4 Kakarot from Baby saga to be more precisely. Super Saiyan 4 Kakarot from the Evil Dragons saga is way more powerful than that Vegeto.Hitiro wrote:SSJ Vegetto as strong as SSJ4 Goku.
How is Goku supposed to feel his own Ki as Vegetto? I've never seen a character say "I can feel my Ki. It is superior to yours." All Goku's statement could mean is that Super Bebi 1 is stronger than Boohan. Because that would be the strongest Ki that Goku has ever felt before then.SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Super Baby 1 says he has the greatest saiyan power, and Goku calls Super Baby 1 the greatest ki he ever felt.
So Super Baby 1 > Super Vegetto
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Re: Who are the top 5 possible strongest characters?
Goten and Trunks knew how strong Gotenks was. No reason for Goku or Vegeta not to know how strong Vegetto is.
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Re: Who are the top 5 possible strongest characters?
It doesn't say "the greatest ki he knows of."SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Goten and Trunks knew how strong Gotenks was. No reason for Goku or Vegeta not to know how strong Vegetto is.
It says "the greatest ki he's ever felt."
Neither Goku or Vegeta ever felt Vegetto's ki.
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