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You say yourself that DB/Z were more serious then you expect Super to be.Nickolaidas wrote:Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't.
No, I'm saying I'm now 20 years older and DBZ seems much more silly that it seemed to in my eyes back then. And if Super is intended for the same demographic, it will look sill-ier because I won't be seeing it with nostalgia goggles.Rocketman wrote:You say yourself that DB/Z were more serious then you expect Super to be.Nickolaidas wrote:Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't.
Didn't this eyebrowed snake appear in a filler episode of dbz where goku protected some eggs?Nickolaidas wrote:Hmmm ...
#dinobushyeyebrowsftw
There were never separate demographics for DB and DBZ, as they belong to the same manga - and i don't see how it makes sense to say that DB was aimed at an older audience. I mean, because of toilet jokes? It's funny how back then people always said the opposite of what you're saying now.Nickolaidas wrote:Also, about the comments of the RR Ribbon and Daimaoh arc and hell, all of DB combine being more serious than Z, it's probably because of target audience. DB was for 13-15 year olds, DBZ was for 7-12. And given the vibe of the new movies, I doubt that Dragon Ball Super is intended to be watched by 30-year olds who grew up with the show. It's probably intented for a much younger audience. Hence the need to have Kid Goten and Kid Trunks jerking around in order for the show to strike the right chords with the kiddies. Frankly, I have *no* idea where the android/Cell saga came from, but that golden age is gone and is never coming back.
The entire concept was silly (in a good way) since the day I watched it at the age of 8, but the tone and mood delivered was also different than anything in modern DBZ. You can't deny that regardless of how much older you are because it's just fact. =PNickolaidas wrote:No, I'm saying I'm now 20 years older and DBZ seems much more silly that it seemed to in my eyes back then. And if Super is intended for the same demographic, it will look sill-ier because I won't be seeing it with nostalgia goggles.Rocketman wrote:You say yourself that DB/Z were more serious then you expect Super to be.Nickolaidas wrote:Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't.
Maybe it's magical liquid thathat will make them grow! Super Water!soulnova wrote:What could it be in the big jar Trunks and Goten are carrying around?
Could the next villain be trapped inside?
I'm not talking about the manga. I'm talking about the anime. The tone and the filler of DBZ is a lot more lighthearted than the tone of DB. And when talking about DB, I'm talking post-21st Budokai, where the series stop being a parody of clichés and tropes, and became its own thing. Tao Pai Pai signaled the end of comedy DB and became action DB. I don't think a character ever before dies on screen through violence (and not off-screen) before Tao killing General Blue.Araki wrote:There were never separate demographics for DB and DBZ, as they belong to the same manga - and i don't see how it makes sense to say that DB was aimed at an older audience. I mean, because of toilet jokes? It's funny how back then people always said the opposite of what you're saying now.
soulnova wrote:What could it be in the big jar Trunks and Goten are carrying around?
Dragon Ball is always been known to be market to kids from 5 - 13 in Japan. Japan allows content to kids that we are not allow to in the US. Shin Chan is for kids in Japan and can get away with dirty jokes while kids shows in America like Regular Show and Spongebob would never allow the same level of humor of Shin Chan.Nickolaidas wrote: Also, about the comments of the RR Ribbon and Daimaoh arc and hell, all of DB combine being more serious than Z, it's probably because of target audience. DB was for 13-15 year olds, DBZ was for 7-12.
This sums up things nicely. Dragon Ball is always been known for kids in both Japan and America. The tone of the franchise is still not much different then you where as a kid back in 1998. Some people will bitch about the lack of blood, but who cares. Who watches DBZ for the blood and gore? This is not Mortal Kombat or Demon Beast Invasion. I don't care if Sunday morning anime edits down things, just tell me a good story. That's all I want.Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids.Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
About the trailer itself, it's safe to assume they're sticking with the Buu philosophy (there will be action, but good guys and bad guys will be ridiculed at regular intervals, preventing the viewer from taking the show seriously). Goku is taking front stage with Vegeta sticking close by, but we can expect to see other characters for filler moments or gawk like idiots when the full-blooded saiyan duo takes on the next challenge. And there's definitely going to be a villain. It ain't DBZ without one.
At what time on Monday (Japan)?Chuquita wrote:*Just realized; we're getting a longer version of the ad on Monday (in Japan). It's already 4:20pm on Sunday there.*
Maybe the longer version of the ad will explain things? :3
Ah, you are right; it is a maybe:dbzfan7 wrote:The Kanzenshuu main page said monday we may get a trailer, not that we will. Did I miss something?
It's also 3:30 in the morning where I am; will take this as an additional cue that it's time for me to go to sleep.Kanzenshuu wrote:Today’s preview was apparently only a “short version”; additional updates are promised for the series’ official website on Monday, which may potentially include a full-length version.
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