"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Sun May 10, 2015 12:22 pm

ZeroTheSuperSaiyan wrote:How can Broly come back when the new films and series are canon to the manga and Broly isn't canon
He can't but for some reason a good amount of fans want it to happen even though the character doesn't exist in canon.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Sun May 10, 2015 12:56 pm

I think as long as we have Toriyama involved, we don't have to worry about "The Return of Brolli: Part 4, 5 if you count the Kai stage show".

I mean, even GT for all its GTness knew not to bring Brolli back again (unless he's in the back ground of one of those Super 17 crowd scenes in which case I don't remember.)

Koyama's disparaging remarks about Beerus compared to his Brolli also help in keeping Brolli from returning, I think.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun May 10, 2015 1:04 pm

Chuquita wrote:I mean, even GT for all its GTness knew not to bring Brolli back again (unless he's in the back ground of one of those Super 17 crowd scenes in which case I don't remember.)
The only villain from the movies in GT was Final Form Coola.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Sun May 10, 2015 1:12 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Chuquita wrote:I mean, even GT for all its GTness knew not to bring Brolli back again (unless he's in the back ground of one of those Super 17 crowd scenes in which case I don't remember.)
The only villain from the movies in GT was Final Form Coola.
Coola's an interesting choice of Toei's. Thank you.
The one that stood out to me was Nappa, because I distinctly remember Vegeta destroying him without saying a word.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Cetra » Sun May 10, 2015 1:15 pm

Chuquita wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Chuquita wrote:I mean, even GT for all its GTness knew not to bring Brolli back again (unless he's in the back ground of one of those Super 17 crowd scenes in which case I don't remember.)
The only villain from the movies in GT was Final Form Coola.
Coola's an interesting choice of Toei's. Thank you.
The one that stood out to me was Nappa, because I distinctly remember Vegeta destroying him without saying a word.

Vegeta did speak, then Nappa shouted "Aah!" and Vegeta sent him back to the Otherworld.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Sun May 10, 2015 1:18 pm

ZeroTheSuperSaiyan, there is no canon, and the canon debates are typically frowned upon this community, just for your information. We don't want to start this debate. It's only going to turn this into unnecessary mess in this thread.

I don't know if you're a long-time lurker that just joined the forum or are a new to this, but I'd like to offer a friendly advice. Your grammars are inconsistent. A word that starts the sentence should always start with a capitalize letter. Other than that you're all good. This forum is typically a strictly professional level in term of posting style. Of course, the effect of this rule is less pronounced than what was a few years ago, but the administrators still expect each of us to follow the rules. ^^;;
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Chuquita wrote:Coola's an interesting choice of Toei's. Thank you.
The one that stood out to me was Nappa, because I distinctly remember Vegeta destroying him without saying a word.
Vegeta did speak, then Nappa shouted "Aah!" and Vegeta sent him back to the Otherworld.
To be more specific, it goes something like this: "I see that your love for mindless destruction hasn't changed, even in Hell, Nappa! Get lost, unless you want me to kill you once again." Vegeta said that with a smirk face. :P
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Sun May 10, 2015 1:19 pm

Re: Nappa

I misremembered. I haven't seen GT since it aired on Toonami long ago.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Marco Polo » Sun May 10, 2015 1:27 pm

The official 30th anniversary site has put up a timeline of DB which goes from ancient Buu backstory all the way to EoZ.

http://db30th.com/into/into_nenpyo.html

Anime exclusive events are marked with a star symbol, except for BoG and RoF.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ZeroTheSuperSaiyan » Sun May 10, 2015 1:28 pm

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:ZeroTheSuperSaiyan, there is no canon, and the canon debates are typically frowned upon this community, just for your information. We don't want to start this debate. It's only going to turn this into unnecessary mess in this thread.

I don't know if you're a long-time lurker that just joined the forum or are a new to this, but I'd like to offer a friendly advice. Your grammars are inconsistent. A word that starts the sentence should always start with a capitalize letter. Other than that you're all good. This forum is typically a strictly professional level in term of posting style. Of course, the effect of this rule is less pronounced than what was a few years ago, but the administrators still expect each of us to follow the rules. ^^;;
I'm new I don't normaly go on forums because on the ones I did people keep bringing this up and I got sick of it because I have mild dyslexia so my spelling and grammar are pretty bad but at least I can check my spelling online so I make less mistakes with that
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Eire » Sun May 10, 2015 1:33 pm

But your posts are still unreadable. Especially for dyslectic like me.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Sun May 10, 2015 1:49 pm

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:There is no canon.
Based on Toriyama's interviews and recent work it's clear that he's only taking into account the stories that he wrote so there's clearly a canon that he's going by.

When you say there's no canon that means there's no rules that anyone who writes for the franchise has to follow and that's obviously wrong.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Cetra » Sun May 10, 2015 1:52 pm

sintzu wrote:
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:There is no canon.
Based on Toriyama's interviews and recent work it's clear that he's only taking into account the stories that he wrote so there's clearly a canon that he's going by.

When you say there's no canon that means there's no rules that anyone who writes for the franchise has to follow and that's obviously wrong.

He is taking mainly into account what he remembers and that is normally what he wrote as that is easier. That is a difference as, while it leads to the same result, is a very important factor when it comes to this topic. It is simply a fact that only the "idea of an established continuity" exists in Dragon Ball but no absolute continuity that cannot surprise a fan tomorrow.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by EA575 » Sun May 10, 2015 1:56 pm

Marco Polo wrote:The official 30th anniversary site has put up a timeline of DB which goes from ancient Buu backstory all the way to EoZ.

http://db30th.com/into/into_nenpyo.html

Anime exclusive events are marked with a star symbol, except for BoG and RoF.
Great timing with all the canon discussion going on.
EDIT: I just realized this probably wasn't released today :oops:

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sun May 10, 2015 1:59 pm

Marco Polo wrote:The official 30th anniversary site has put up a timeline of DB which goes from ancient Buu backstory all the way to EoZ.

http://db30th.com/into/into_nenpyo.html

Anime exclusive events are marked with a star symbol, except for BoG and RoF.
Haha, they including the Goku and Piccolo driving episode, cool! That is single handedly the best filler episode in anything ever.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun May 10, 2015 2:03 pm

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:ZeroTheSuperSaiyan, there is no canon, and the canon debates are typically frowned upon this community, just for your information. We don't want to start this debate. It's only going to turn this into unnecessary mess in this thread.
There's no official canon, but fans believe stuff with the official author being involved with is consider to be canon just like how anime and manga franchises are. The Tenchi Muyo manga for example is written by a different author and is not consider to be canon by the fans. Besides Broli does not exist in the main timeline of the franchise given how none of his movies fit and the events of his movies where never reference again outside the films. I highly Broli will ever come back outside of video games unless Toei forces Toriyama to put him in.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

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Chuquita wrote: Koyama's disparaging remarks about Beerus compared to his Brolli also help in keeping Brolli from returning, I think.
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Post by ArchedThunder » Sun May 10, 2015 2:50 pm

Marco Polo wrote:The official 30th anniversary site has put up a timeline of DB which goes from ancient Buu backstory all the way to EoZ.

http://db30th.com/into/into_nenpyo.html

Anime exclusive events are marked with a star symbol, except for BoG and RoF.
The fact that GT is completely excluded when anime filler isn't says a lot.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Dyno » Sun May 10, 2015 2:56 pm

Where are you seeing anime things related? I'm only seeing they covering the manga.

Cool to note there is no mention about Dragon Ball Minus (from what I can see), only Bardock/planet Vegeta/Age 737.

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Post by ArchedThunder » Sun May 10, 2015 2:58 pm

Dyno wrote:Where are you seeing anime things related? I'm only seeing they covering the manga.

Cool to note there is no mention about Dragon Ball Minus (from what I can see), only Bardock/planet Vegeta/Age 737.
Everything with a ☆ is an anime only event.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Marco Polo » Sun May 10, 2015 2:59 pm

Dyno wrote:Where are you seeing anime things related? I'm only seeing they covering the manga.

Cool to note there is no mention about Dragon Ball Minus (from what I can see), only Bardock/planet Vegeta/Age 737.
The anime things are preceded by a small star sign in text. They're not illustrated. Garlic Jr., Paikuhan, etc. are mentioned.

Jaco is mentioned too I think.

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