Question regarding Gohan's status in the Buu saga

[Bejiita]

Something I find wierd in the Buu saga about Gohan is that everyone thinks he has been killed by Fat Buu, since they can't sense his ki.

Ok, but Bulma wished for everyone except for the bad guys who died that day to be restored, and surely if Gohan did die he would have been restored, doesn't anyone even realise this after making the wish and not seeing him return? They must suspect something.

[Kendamu]

If a big pink monster who had the capability to destroy all of mankind on a whim was roaming around and my friends and I (who happen to be the most powerful people in the universe) couldn't stop it things would be a bit too hectic for me to catch every detail of what's going on.

Then again, I've never saved the world singlehandedly with martial arts skills so I would be a little more disturbed by the whole situation as oppose to the characters who've done it several times and should be used to dire situations. They should've known better.

[Jerseymilk]

Something I find wierd in the Buu saga about Gohan is that everyone thinks he has been killed by Fat Buu, since they can't sense his ki.

Ok, but Bulma wished for everyone except for the bad guys who died that day to be restored, and surely if Gohan did die he would have been restored, doesn't anyone even realise this after making the wish and not seeing him return? They must suspect something.

Perhaps they figured that he just appeared in some other spot? Though the most likely explaination is Toriyama forgetting again.

[Bejiita]

If a big pink monster who had the capability to destroy all of mankind on a whim was roaming around and my friends and I (who happen to be the most powerful people in the universe) couldn't stop it things would be a bit too hectic for me to catch every detail of what's going on.

Then again, I've never saved the world singlehandedly with martial arts skills so I would be a little more disturbed by the whole situation as oppose to the characters who've done it several times and should be used to dire situations. They should've known better.

Still, that's not really a valid point, if anything the fact that this Buu can destroy the world at any moment gives more reason for them to start thinking logically about everything that is happening.

People like Piccolo or Dende/Kami should be first to realise these happenings, leaving Goku aside, he is always a bit careless with important information as you can see with what Mirai Trunks tells him.

[Dayspring]

Something I find wierd in the Buu saga about Gohan is that everyone thinks he has been killed by Fat Buu, since they can't sense his ki.

Ok, but Bulma wished for everyone except for the bad guys who died that day to be restored, and surely if Gohan did die he would have been restored, doesn't anyone even realise this after making the wish and not seeing him return? They must suspect something.

Probably the same mistake as Kaio and bubbles remaining dead once everybody killed by Cell was brought back.

Gohan's ki wasn't there, which always served as proof that someone was alive in the past, so they just didn't think too much of it since they had too much to worry about at the moment.

[Bejiita]

Something I find wierd in the Buu saga about Gohan is that everyone thinks he has been killed by Fat Buu, since they can't sense his ki.

Ok, but Bulma wished for everyone except for the bad guys who died that day to be restored, and surely if Gohan did die he would have been restored, doesn't anyone even realise this after making the wish and not seeing him return? They must suspect something.

Probably the same mistake as Kaio and bubbles remaining dead once everybody killed by Cell was brought back.

Gohan's ki wasn't there, which always served as proof that someone was alive in the past, so they just didn't think too much of it since they had too much to worry about at the moment.

I actually forgot about Bubbles and Gregory, lol.

Fair enough about his ki just not being present so they leave it out, but it's Videl who keeps bangin' on about Gohan being alive, someone should have caught on to what she was saying and realised that he should have been alive.

Anyway, it's probably just another Toriyama goof up. I never realised this until now anyway.

Plus even if they did realise he was alive, then the shock of everyone when he finally reunites with them all would be, less touching. That away time makes Videl fall for him even more I suppose.

[Duo]

I was convinced that Bulma asked for everyone Vegeta killed to be brought back, but then I checked and...holy crap. Plothole to the max. Vegeta would obviously stay dead for having died before, but Gohan hadn't died before...

Ugh. I hate finding inexplicable things like this.

[Bejiita]

I was convinced that Bulma asked for everyong Vegeta killed to be brought back, but then I checked and...holy crap. Plothole to the max. Vegeta would obviously stay dead for having died before, but Gohan hadn't died before...

Ugh. I hate finding inexplicable things like this.

Lol, if anything it was Yamcha who said the wish anyway!

Not that it makes a difference.

Is this like another plothole now?

[Cyberman]

I also noticed this, a bit wierd.

[Kendamu]

If a big pink monster who had the capability to destroy all of mankind on a whim was roaming around and my friends and I (who happen to be the most powerful people in the universe) couldn't stop it things would be a bit too hectic for me to catch every detail of what's going on.

Then again, I've never saved the world singlehandedly with martial arts skills so I would be a little more disturbed by the whole situation as oppose to the characters who've done it several times and should be used to dire situations. They should've known better.

Still, that's not really a valid point, if anything the fact that this Buu can destroy the world at any moment gives more reason for them to start thinking logically about everything that is happening.

People like Piccolo or Dende/Kami should be first to realise these happenings, leaving Goku aside, he is always a bit careless with important information as you can see with what Mirai Trunks tells him.

Hence the final paragraph in my post.

[Duo]

Is this like another plothole now?

Pretty much, yeah...kinda sad. The Canon universe has such a low number, that finding a new one is a travestry of undescribable proportions.

Or maybe not so much.

[Dayspring]

How is it plothole? I'm sure it's exactly like I said: they didn't realise it because his ki wasn't there.

[Duo]

How is it plothole? I'm sure it's exactly like I said: they didn't realise it because his ki wasn't there.

They would have at least said something later...like "Why didn't Gohan come back from the wish...?"

[Dayspring]

How is it plothole? I'm sure it's exactly like I said: they didn't realise it because his ki wasn't there.

They would have at least said something later...like "Why didn't Gohan come back from the wish...?"

Like I said earlier: they had more important things on their mind at the time. They didn't think of it at the moment and simply didn't get a chance to reflect on the matter.

A plothole is when Toriyama royally fucks up the story, not when the characters therein mess up.

[Azure]

It is a bit odd I guess if you rephrased as everyone who dies as a result of Vegeta's actions?
Most of them don't sense Gohan's Ki as he's in the other world training with the Kais, after he returns I assume he's supressing it. We can assume Videl is especially attuned to him and can thus sense him ( we know telepathy can work that far ) and that the others don't believe her as they assume she doesn't want to accept his death.

[Xyex]

I thought I posted once here... must have gotten booted or something before I finished I guess.

Anyway, it's like this. No one there saw exactly when Gohan 'died'. Piccolo and Krillin were stone. Vegeta and Goku were fighting. And the others were off at the Budokai / collecting Dragonballs. They probably simply assumed that he was on the verge of death prior to the wish and then died after it was made. Thus he wasn't revived.