Can Vegeta be marked as tsundere?

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Can Vegeta be marked as tsundere?

Post by coola » Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:39 pm

While being mean and rude toward character, tsundere secretly admires/like him or her. I think Vegeta could be marked as tsundere, while he keep yelling at Kakarot, and for long time, his desire to surpass him was an obsession, he respects him, and their rivalry helps him to push his limits. Now, if only Kid Vegeta was voiced by Rie Kugumiya :D
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Re: Can Vegeta be marked as tsundere?

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:41 pm

He also might be tsundere towards Bulma.
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Re: Can Vegeta be marked as tsundere?

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:44 pm

He is towards Goku and Bulma.
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Re: Can Vegeta be marked as tsundere?

Post by Chuquita » Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:52 pm

Definitely. I think of him as one of the origins of the tsundere, if not the origin of the tsundere character type. The way he treats Gokû and Bulma is similar to how modern tsundere characters treat the people they care about who they don't want to let know that they care about them.
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Re: Can Vegeta be marked as tsundere?

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Aug 16, 2015 5:40 pm

Hell yeah, Vegeta is tsundere. Vegeta-chan thinks Goku-kun is totally awesome but constantly says that Goku is a "baka" to hid his true feelings, and when pressured about what he really thinks of Goku, his response will be "Urusai! Urusai! Urusai!"

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Re: Can Vegeta be marked as tsundere?

Post by KameRule » Sun Aug 16, 2015 5:48 pm

coola wrote:While being mean and rude toward character, tsundere secretly admires/like him or her.
Well actually, the word is supposed to be used to refer to a gradual change in feelings over time. I think that the proper definition is definitely closer to Vegeta than the one cited, and I'm sure that he could be defined as one.

I choked on my drink when I read the thread title though. :lol:
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Re: Can Vegeta be marked as tsundere?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:41 pm

He was totally tsundere for those innocent people he slaughtered and ate.
Chuquita wrote:Definitely. I think of him as one of the origins of the tsundere, if not the origin of the tsundere character type. The way he treats Gokû and Bulma is similar to how modern tsundere characters treat the people they care about who they don't want to let know that they care about them.
He cared about them so much that he repeatedly tried to murder them, and repeatedly rejected easy opportunities to save their lives because of spite and pride.
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Re: Can Vegeta be marked as tsundere?

Post by Kid Buu » Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:56 pm

Chuquita wrote:Definitely. I think of him as one of the origins of the tsundere, if not the origin of the tsundere character type. The way he treats Gokû and Bulma is similar to how modern tsundere characters treat the people they care about who they don't want to let know that they care about them.
Lum Invader from Rumiko Takahashi's Urusei Yatsura is usually credited as the origin of the tsundere character type.
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Re: Can Vegeta be marked as tsundere?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:58 pm

Chuquita wrote:Definitely. I think of him as one of the origins of the tsundere, if not the origin of the tsundere character type.
Lum is usually credited as the original tsundere, who existed long before Vegeta existed. Urusei Yatsura ran for 10 years from 1977 to 1987 and was a major popular hit in Japan.
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Re: Can Vegeta be marked as tsundere?

Post by Chuquita » Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:04 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:
Chuquita wrote:Definitely. I think of him as one of the origins of the tsundere, if not the origin of the tsundere character type.
Lum is usually credited as the original tsundere, who existed long before Vegeta existed. Urusei Yatsura ran for 10 years from 1977 to 1987 and was a major popular hit in Japan.
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I know they had the rights to the manga at some point, but it was long before I even knew what manga was. I think it went out of print before then too.
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Re: Can Vegeta be marked as tsundere?

Post by garfield15 » Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:41 pm

Vegeta is like the textbook male tsundere

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Re: Can Vegeta be marked as tsundere?

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:10 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:
Chuquita wrote:Definitely. I think of him as one of the origins of the tsundere, if not the origin of the tsundere character type.
Lum is usually credited as the original tsundere, who existed long before Vegeta existed. Urusei Yatsura ran for 10 years from 1977 to 1987 and was a major popular hit in Japan.
Funny thing is she doesn't play "hard to get" like the archetypal tsundere, or does she flip over every little thing (from what I saw).
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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Re: Can Vegeta be marked as tsundere?

Post by visser » Mon Aug 17, 2015 4:22 pm

KameRule wrote:
coola wrote:While being mean and rude toward character, tsundere secretly admires/like him or her.
Well actually, the word is supposed to be used to refer to a gradual change in feelings over time. I think that the proper definition is definitely closer to Vegeta than the one cited, and I'm sure that he could be defined as one.

I choked on my drink when I read the thread title though. :lol:
Yeah, i think gradual change fits better, i mean Bulma is his wife,he may be rude to her and he may not show affection often, but if you are in a relationship with someone and live with them, i don't see how the love or admiration is a secret.

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Re: Can Vegeta be marked as tsundere?

Post by Kid Buu » Wed Aug 19, 2015 2:18 am

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:
Chuquita wrote:Definitely. I think of him as one of the origins of the tsundere, if not the origin of the tsundere character type.
Lum is usually credited as the original tsundere, who existed long before Vegeta existed. Urusei Yatsura ran for 10 years from 1977 to 1987 and was a major popular hit in Japan.
Funny thing is she doesn't play "hard to get" like the archetypal tsundere, or does she flip over every little thing (from what I saw).
Yeah, as a big fan of Urusei Yatsura (and pretty much almost every Rumic work), I'll agree that Lum seems like a weird citation, but it's generally whom I see being mostly associated with this trait.

It's why I'm not really a big trope fan in genreal. I always find them to be way too far of a reach.
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