Worst point in the series ?
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Worst point in the series ?
Now this isn't a worst saga list just the lowest of the lows for Dragon Ball. For me it's the islands in the Cell saga, it was boring and full of dumb decisions, and a lot of stuff happens so you can't just skip it.
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In anime. any filler, where character act OOC, or have their annoying traits multiplied.
In manga: Buu Saga, mostly because of art, who for me, got much worse.
In manga: Buu Saga, mostly because of art, who for me, got much worse.
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Re: Worst point in the series ?
I guess for me it would be the "pirate cave" portion of the Red Ribbon Army arc. I generally like that arc, but that part just felt like such a slog (at least in my memories of the anime - should probably re-watch it/read the manga version).
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Everything from Cell absorbing #17 to the beginning of the Cell Games. Just stupid decision, after stupid decision, after stupid decision. It's just so irritating to see the heroes and villains acting so dumb for the sake of keeping the plot going. Because who can you root for in that situation?
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Re: Worst point in the series ?
Android and Cell Arc, from Cell absorbing 17 to begining of Cell Games.
Majin Bu Arc, the tournament, the only good portion from that part of the story is Videl getting her ass kicked.
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I know it's a fan-favorite thing, but for me it would be the stretch of episodes where Gohan fights with Cell. Dumb, boring, reptitive, no actual plot etc
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I've spoken about this before, but it's without a doubt a portion of those islands in the Cell arc. Here's what I wrote the last time this was brought up:
It's even worse in the anime. Episode upon episode upon episode of dragged out, mindnumblingly dull fight scenes. It's one of those sections that I'm surprised isn't used more often to discredit Dragon Ball as a series. Far too often people bring up the five minutes on Namek, but man, at least that part was entertaining! This is the worst of the worst. I cannot think of anything that tops it (at least excluding filler... that's a whole different beast).In particular, Trunks and Vegeta's stand-off with Cell. It reminds me of the Saiyan arc, where we have side characters fighting against the main antagonists as we anxiously await the arrival of our hero. It's a concept that I don't mind, but I never felt the fight was interesting enough to really warrant its length. You have some great moments, but I always felt it was the point in the series where it began to verge on parody. Vegeta fights Cell, Cell transforms, Vegeta fights Cell again, performs an incredible Final Flash, Cell doesn't die, Vegeta loses, Trunks fights, struggles, puffs himself up to the point of absurdity, and then... loses. This whole segment lasts an entire volume! It's insanely drawn out, and I really hate reading through it over and over.
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Gotta go with SSJ Goku vs 100% Frieza (5 min explosion) part
Anime destroyed whatever iconic, epic moments it created with ugly art, outdated animation (Frieza at times looked like BullXDuck hybrid with his disporpotionate Super Buff design, thx to Uchiyama & Ebisawa).
Plot, fight, drama. Nothin worked as good as pre-SSJ.
Also, some parts of Majin Boo Arc. Like the "empty" episodes/chapters where Fat Boo keeps turning people into candy so many freakin times, its cringe-worthy. Also, the infamous worm episode inside Super Boo's body. While it was dark & gave an adventurous feel, the Worm part was completely....ugh!
Anime destroyed whatever iconic, epic moments it created with ugly art, outdated animation (Frieza at times looked like BullXDuck hybrid with his disporpotionate Super Buff design, thx to Uchiyama & Ebisawa).
Plot, fight, drama. Nothin worked as good as pre-SSJ.
Also, some parts of Majin Boo Arc. Like the "empty" episodes/chapters where Fat Boo keeps turning people into candy so many freakin times, its cringe-worthy. Also, the infamous worm episode inside Super Boo's body. While it was dark & gave an adventurous feel, the Worm part was completely....ugh!
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RRA arc for DB. Ginyu force mini-arc, 95% of the Android saga and both incarnations of Resurrection F.
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The section I've been most bored with was the whole General Blue pirate cave and Super Vegeta stuff. Muscle tower is also kind of a drag in the anime. I guess you can include some dumb filler in there like the Garlic Jr. Arc. Super's "F" arc was also pretty annoying from the time Freeza arrived until his death.
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Re: Worst point in the series ?
-The whole Android Arc for me. The only thing I liked about this arc was, SSJ Goku vs Android 19.
-The moment Imperfect Cell Absorbed Android 17, all the way to the start of the Cell Games, then when Gohan fought Cell. The only thing I enjoyed about the entirety of the Cell Arc was the Imperfect Cell Arc, and Imperfect Cell himself, Goku vs Cell, Gohan's transformation, Cell's death, and Trunks freeing the future of both Future Androids and Imperfect Cell.
-The moment when, Gotenks first fought Super Boo, all the way to when Vegetto defused inside of Boo. I felt like the majority of the Fusion Arc, hurt the quality of the Boo Arc, and brought it down.
-The moment Imperfect Cell Absorbed Android 17, all the way to the start of the Cell Games, then when Gohan fought Cell. The only thing I enjoyed about the entirety of the Cell Arc was the Imperfect Cell Arc, and Imperfect Cell himself, Goku vs Cell, Gohan's transformation, Cell's death, and Trunks freeing the future of both Future Androids and Imperfect Cell.
-The moment when, Gotenks first fought Super Boo, all the way to when Vegetto defused inside of Boo. I felt like the majority of the Fusion Arc, hurt the quality of the Boo Arc, and brought it down.
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I am going on this based on the anime, since I haven't read the manga yet.
In Dragon Ball, the Pirate Cave and the Wedding Dress portions are a chore to get trough. Especially the Wedding Dress, as it happens between a great arc and nothing, as the series ends there, leading it to fall flat on it's face.
In Dragon Ball Z, the Fake Namek filler is horrible. If there is a low point in every series, that is the one. However, very hard portions to sit trough are almost all the Cell Arc between the activation of #17 and #18 and the Cell Games (though there are cool moments in it, like everything with Imperfect Cell) and everything in the Buu saga after Vegetto defuses. I love the Kid Buu fight in itself, but when you are watching it from episode to episode it's really unexciting to watch.
In Dragon Ball GT, everything before Goku turns SSJ4 for the first time and everything between the end of the Baby Saga till the appearance of Nova Shenron are plain boring and uninteresting.
In Dragon Ball, the Pirate Cave and the Wedding Dress portions are a chore to get trough. Especially the Wedding Dress, as it happens between a great arc and nothing, as the series ends there, leading it to fall flat on it's face.
In Dragon Ball Z, the Fake Namek filler is horrible. If there is a low point in every series, that is the one. However, very hard portions to sit trough are almost all the Cell Arc between the activation of #17 and #18 and the Cell Games (though there are cool moments in it, like everything with Imperfect Cell) and everything in the Buu saga after Vegetto defuses. I love the Kid Buu fight in itself, but when you are watching it from episode to episode it's really unexciting to watch.
In Dragon Ball GT, everything before Goku turns SSJ4 for the first time and everything between the end of the Baby Saga till the appearance of Nova Shenron are plain boring and uninteresting.
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Re: Worst point in the series ?
Definitively Buu Saga. I mean, 30% of the saga is a gag. Heck, the entire ROSAT Arc was a gag in my opinion
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Dragon Ball Gt's 1st 15 episodes.
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I can't believe I forgot about this.sintzu wrote:Dragon Ball Gt's 1st 15 episodes.
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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The Resurrection 'F' film and GT's Super 17 arc.
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Probably not the worst but definitely one of the worst.The main fight of the ROF Arc,i actually reached to the point where i didn't give a shit anymore and will just wait for the new arc.Animation and fight choreography is very bad that it hurts,at least episode 27 gives me hope.The same goes for the main fight in the Freeza Arc in Z.A damn 19 episodes of fighting ain't gonna be good if most of it is just talking and powering up.
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Most of the Cell Arc.