Should Dragon Ball just borrow from different genres?

[ToxicFlame707]

As pumped as I am to see Universe 6 come into play, I am a bit worried about what comes after. I am looking forward to seeing the Z-Warriors, yes I said Z-Warriors and not Goku and Vegeta, iVoltGaming made some video titled "Should Goku and Vegeta visit the other universe?" but I commented "Why just Goku and Vegeta?", I want to see everyone explore. Maybe bring Piccolo and Bulma, and she can be like Oracle (Batman comics), or Chloe Sullivan in Smallville using her book-smarts to help out the Z-Warriors, surely they may need someone like that for whatever reason, esp. with the Super Dragon Balls. Scratch that, don't bring Bulma, bring Tights!

But I feel like Dragon Ball is starting to lose originality in it's own story. I mean c'mon, bringing back Frieza, the same "Darn I'm mad and have a small d**k so I want to destroy the world and rulez daa univ3rse!!".

I think it won't be a bad idea for Dragon Ball to borrow elements from different elements from other genres in the future. How about the "epic" story, such as Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, Harry Potter, etc.

Young, Rookie Protagonist: Harry Potter, Luke Skywalker, Frodo
Wise Old Mentor, who as close to a legend at one point: Gandalf, Dumbledor, Obi-Wan
External element critical to plot: Rings, Magic, the Force
Villain who is polar opposite of the Old mentor: Sauron, Vader, Tagoma
The weird one: Jar Jar Binks, Gollum, Dobby
Love Interest: Harmony/Ronald's sister, the chick played by Liv Tyler, Leia.

So why not a Dragon Ball story following that formula.

Rookie Protagonist: Goku Jr
I know what you're thinking, I am copying A Hero's Legacy, and yes I am only stealing that idea. In this story Goku Jr will not know he is related to Goku until the end of the first story arc. As a matter of fact he wouldn't even be named Goku Jr, since he would be part-Saiyan I guess he would be named Endive.
Wise Old Mentor: Piccolo
While at the EoZ, Piccolo has maybe only been alive for about 30 years, he still has all the memories of King Piccolo, meaning he basically lived for thousands of years, and the fact that Piccolo is a being who can live for thousands of years, he is perfect for the role.
External element critical to plot: Dragon Balls
Villain who is polar opposite of the Old mentor:
A former Z-Warrior who came into conflict with Goku and the other Z-Warriors due to his ethics being questionable. He is the 100xGreat Grandson of Beerus, and his 100xGreat Grandmother is a woman who Beerus has a fling with once. Considering Beerus is millions of years old, it's hard to believe he didn't get "lonely" once in awhile. His genetic makeup would be mostly humanoid, but with cat claws, a tail, purple skin, and whiskers. I'm not an artist so you'll have to picture him yourself. How we meets the Z-Warriors and is even introduced is a different topic.
Love interest:
A descendant of Bulma.
The Weird One: A Cell Jr who was created after Cell came back, somehow, but ended up having a mind of his own and formed a temporary alliance with the Z-Warriors against Cell, and then went into solitude afterwards.

I know I could've done better, I am simply not a writer. However, I would prefer if DBZ copied other stories instead of rehashing their own.

[saiyanvegetable]

It doesn't need to borrow anything except quality control. It's got enough of it's own lore to worldbuild, what used to be strong characters, etc. Bringing back Frieza was an awesome idea but so horribly executed.

Your idea is uhh, for lack of a btter word, pretty terrible. Just borrowing plotlines and slapping Dragonball characters would probably end up even worse than Super. Dragonball just needs to focus on it's own world and characters and properly develop them.

[JulieYBM]

Dragon Ball has always partaken in other genres, so I do not see an issue of doing again.

[ToxicFlame707]

Or a future Dragon Ball series (after Super) can use this formula, I think it could work.

[Vijay]

I just cannot fathom what's what anymore

DragonBall defined Shounen genre. Then redefined Anime Industry. Gate-Way of anime in UK, US, Europe. One among few shows that helped anime industry in general to receive global/worldwide recognition.

And you were sayin? Of course, I understand your excitement for U6 & stuff. Basically means your still clinging to Super, while I've washed my hands off long ago

Creative & quality control. 2 things are required. Rest will be history. DB doesnt need to "borrow" anything frm any genre as its a rich world with World Building, Hierachy (Humans, Z-Fighters, Kaioshins), over 200+ characters & above all else, a genuinely likable & action-packed series which carned a niche for itself 20 years back, rivalled by none

Now you may ask why do I bother saying all these? I'm not seasoned anime fan. But have watched some fairly high-caliber/quality anime of various genre which infuses seinin into shounen (HunterXHunter, FullMetal Alchemist: BrotherHood, DN comes to mind) or shoujo into shounen giving it many spins etc

But DragonBall doesnt need all that. Its a simple, rich tale which has been plagued by an imconpetent, greedy corporate which otherwise would've made helluva difference in the hands of MadHouse, Sunrise, BONES

[Kunzait_83]

"I don't like how stale, repetitive, and predictably derivative the newest Dragon Ball material is, so what I think should be done to remedy that problem is to remake and revamp the new Dragon Ball stuff into being exactly the same as everything else that's already super popular and long since played out in Western Pop Culture by repeating their exact same tired formulas verbatim and without an ounce of originality."

[Xeztin]

I get you are tired of Super being the Goku and Vegeta or for lack of a better word "The Saiyan Show", but it was foreshadowed from the beginning when Goku was revealed as a life form that was stronger than humans. Human's cant keep up to the Sayians, so to keep them relevant they used strategies such as Yajirobe cutting off Vegeta's tail. As soon as they thrown away strategies and tactics and resulted to full blown beat down fights they became useless. If the Humans suddenly get as strong as Goku or even get a quarter of his power, people would throw a fit. The only way for them to be relevant again is to bring back strategies.

[DuckBoy]

I say turn everyone into anthropomorphic ducks

[Pantalones]

I say turn everyone into anthropomorphic ducks

So basically... the Vegeta battle turns into this:



(okay, yeah, Vegeta isn't a duck here, but close enough.)

[DuckBoy]

I take it, I'm sold on the idea.

Just make Donald Kuririn and it'll be perfect

[DBZAOTA482]

I say turn everyone into anthropomorphic ducks

So basically... the Vegeta battle turns into this:



(okay, yeah, Vegeta isn't a duck here, but close enough.)

That reminds me of that old movie on Newgrounds where Scrooge Mcduck fought Vegeta in 2004.

[Lord Beerus]

"I don't like how stale, repetitive, and predictably derivative the newest Dragon Ball material is, so what I think should be done to remedy that problem is to remake and revamp the new Dragon Ball stuff into being exactly the same as everything else that's already super popular and long since played out in Western Pop Culture by repeating their exact same tired formulas verbatim and without an ounce of originality."

Kunzait_83 just won this thread.