Why Demigra is the worst Dragon Ball Villain.
Why Demigra is the worst Dragon Ball Villain.
To be honest... I think Demon God Demigra is the most Despicable, disgusting, and evil villain that the Dragon Ball villains I've ever seen in my life. To begin with, let's list down the villains that the story has given us.
Frieza: He enslaved the Saiyan race into bodyguards, destroyed Planet Vegeta, killed Namekians, killed Krillin, killed piccolo, and almost killed Gohan in Dragon Ball Super. Horrible, but still self-contained.
Cell: Killed thousands of people with his tail, instigated a massacre, instigated the Cell Games, and made Goku do a sacrifice. Very bad, but self-contained.
Super Buu/Kid Buu: Created the unspeakable Human Extinction Attack that wiped off all Humans on earth, turns Chi-Chi into an egg, kills off the cast into Chocolate, destroys Earth as a planet, and attempts to kill off the Kais. Extremely Bad & shocking, but still self-contained.
Demigra: This man wanted all of history for himself(not caring about the Demon Realm), posses characters in the most horrifying fashion with his villainous mode magic, attempted to posses the player, posses Trunks, posses Piccolo to kill Goten and Trunks, eats Toki Toki, revives the villains with the Dragon Balls, and almost tried to kill the Player & Goku.
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Frieza: He enslaved the Saiyan race into bodyguards, destroyed Planet Vegeta, killed Namekians, killed Krillin, killed piccolo, and almost killed Gohan in Dragon Ball Super. Horrible, but still self-contained.
Cell: Killed thousands of people with his tail, instigated a massacre, instigated the Cell Games, and made Goku do a sacrifice. Very bad, but self-contained.
Super Buu/Kid Buu: Created the unspeakable Human Extinction Attack that wiped off all Humans on earth, turns Chi-Chi into an egg, kills off the cast into Chocolate, destroys Earth as a planet, and attempts to kill off the Kais. Extremely Bad & shocking, but still self-contained.
Demigra: This man wanted all of history for himself(not caring about the Demon Realm), posses characters in the most horrifying fashion with his villainous mode magic, attempted to posses the player, posses Trunks, posses Piccolo to kill Goten and Trunks, eats Toki Toki, revives the villains with the Dragon Balls, and almost tried to kill the Player & Goku.
Does anyone agree with this or what?
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I think hes one of the worst in terms of quality really. To be honest his existence was pointless when we already had Towa and Mira. Pair that with a generic almost non-existent personality and a design thats more Dragon Quest than Dragon Ball and hes really one of the most forgettable villains in the franchise.
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His intentions are indeed more "cruel"... But that's exactly what makes Demigra actually being a good villain, there's really, really a threat here and the heroes have time itself to defend if they wanna live. Even Super Shenron wouldn't be capable of undoing (if Demigra succeeds) since some of his Dragon Balls remain in the universe they were used, preventing them for asking to restore time.
Demigra would actually be a fine addition, but instead, they keep bringing back characters that don't need to be brought back...
Demigra would actually be a fine addition, but instead, they keep bringing back characters that don't need to be brought back...
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I wouldn't say Demigra is the worst Dragon Ball villain. But he certainly is among the worst for how horribly designed, bland in personality and boring his goal is. He truly is a strictly a video game character because of how 2 dimensional in all regards he is.
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Demigra is Kefka if he had been in Crono Trigger instead of FFVI.KentalSSJ6 wrote:I think hes one of the worst in terms of quality really. To be honest his existence was pointless when we already had Towa and Mira. Pair that with a generic almost non-existent personality and a design thats more Dragon Quest than Dragon Ball and hes really one of the most forgettable villains in the franchise.
For that reason alone, I like the guy.
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Demigra probably kicks puppies as a hobby.
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Personality and transformation wise, yeah. But I really dig the design of his normal form, very exotic and time-lord like for a DB villain.
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Couldn't have said it better. I didn't find his convoluted plan to be all that interesting, nor did I understand what the point was. The plotline of the actual DBO seemed much better than the arbitrary motives Xenoverse invented. Then the fact that Xenovere broke the Timeline rules just for the plot really didn't look good on it. They should have just stuck with the DBO plot, or have a villain just wanting to destroy the timelines in general, like some TMNT forever type thing. I really had no clue in what Demigra wanted.KentalSSJ6 wrote:I think hes one of the worst in terms of quality really. To be honest his existence was pointless when we already had Towa and Mira. Pair that with a generic almost non-existent personality and a design thats more Dragon Quest than Dragon Ball and hes really one of the most forgettable villains in the franchise.
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Eh, he came off as a generic Final Fantasy ripoff villain to me.
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Likewise, Demigra's transformation reminded me of a Dragon Quest design, as Toriyama is versed with. I wonder if the disconnect was intentional?
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Demigra was cool, liked him more than my favorite Hatchihyakku (Which I prefer to Baby as my Tsufuru avenger).
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I thought he was a good villian. Like, I thought he played the villain role.
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Demigra was keeeewl. Weird Chrono Trigger design, but cool.
I liked his Dragon form and he was actually one of the more original villains created without Toriyama I think.
Being a mage whom tried to achieve the godhood.
The others, like Hatchihyack, Mira and Towa are more of these revenge types. Avenging Tsufurus, the others are avenging Dabura and want to open the Demon Realm and yeah, Mira is of course artifical, so that's why he is so powerful.
I like that Demigra is like Majin Buu, ancient threat with grudge, unleashed right now for us to defeat and had guts to take on Beerus.
I liked his Dragon form and he was actually one of the more original villains created without Toriyama I think.
Being a mage whom tried to achieve the godhood.
The others, like Hatchihyack, Mira and Towa are more of these revenge types. Avenging Tsufurus, the others are avenging Dabura and want to open the Demon Realm and yeah, Mira is of course artifical, so that's why he is so powerful.
I like that Demigra is like Majin Buu, ancient threat with grudge, unleashed right now for us to defeat and had guts to take on Beerus.
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I love Demigra's design, voice and personality (Seriously, our first meeting with him when he gives us the 'Bomb Mark' is actually kind of haunting). But what makes him a bad villain in terms of quality is how the story treats him, he comes in too late into the game and does nothing to make himself more then a threat in the story then Towa and Mira. Hell, by the time of the final fight we've kicked his ass to the curve on several occasions (And not in the usual video game fasion of ''You beat him gameplay-wise, but he has the power of cutscenes", but it's acknowledged that we beat him).
And in DBZ hes even more at a disadvantage by us not having people or minions to speak for him. Because for most villains in Dragonball they had an event or people to build them up, for Frieza we had his monstrous minions kicking down the Z-Fighters and having various other character's screaming about his power. With Cell we had all the main characters sensing his power as he effortlessly massacres towns just before confronting Piccolo, then proceeding to grow strong enough later to beat both Piccolo and 17.
In Xenoverse we only had SKOT mentioning him from time to time, never really acting like there was a big chance of lost. She always seemed more annoyed by him then actually treating him as a threat until he actually does something effective. What we needed for Demigra to be a better villain would of been to include more Ttime Patrol NPC's in the story, maybe have more talk about him before his entrance. Maybe have him take down a few time patrollers before you meet him (I mean, with what we hear of some of the NPC's backstories, like the guy that single-handedly ended the threeway war between the Saiyins, Red Ribbon Army and King Piccolo, that is actually a pretty impressive feat). Hell, have him kill off SKOT.
And in DBZ hes even more at a disadvantage by us not having people or minions to speak for him. Because for most villains in Dragonball they had an event or people to build them up, for Frieza we had his monstrous minions kicking down the Z-Fighters and having various other character's screaming about his power. With Cell we had all the main characters sensing his power as he effortlessly massacres towns just before confronting Piccolo, then proceeding to grow strong enough later to beat both Piccolo and 17.
In Xenoverse we only had SKOT mentioning him from time to time, never really acting like there was a big chance of lost. She always seemed more annoyed by him then actually treating him as a threat until he actually does something effective. What we needed for Demigra to be a better villain would of been to include more Ttime Patrol NPC's in the story, maybe have more talk about him before his entrance. Maybe have him take down a few time patrollers before you meet him (I mean, with what we hear of some of the NPC's backstories, like the guy that single-handedly ended the threeway war between the Saiyins, Red Ribbon Army and King Piccolo, that is actually a pretty impressive feat). Hell, have him kill off SKOT.
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I'm not sure if Xenoverse 2 will use them, but he has Gravy and Poutine as minions when his past self is portrayed. It would do wonders to use those two in fleshing him out more.
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He has minions? I never heard that mentioned in Xenoverse, has Demigra appeared in other material aside from Xenoverse?Nejishiki wrote:I'm not sure if Xenoverse 2 will use them, but he has Gravy and Poutine as minions when his past self is portrayed. It would do wonders to use those two in fleshing him out more.
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Never heard of Dragon Ball Heroes? Anyway, yes he appears in Heroes as his younger self.Kanassa wrote:He has minions? I never heard that mentioned in Xenoverse, has Demigra appeared in other material aside from Xenoverse?
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I hope he does not return for XV2. They could give us another original villain instead.
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I wouldn't mind seeing him return. Hell he could be one of those "out for revenge" types who gets killed off or whatever by the true villain. I mean he more or less did the same thing with Towa and Mira by using the CaC while placing a spell on the latter to kill them after the job was done.
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I hope they save him for XV3Hellspawn28 wrote:I hope he does not return for XV2. They could give us another original villain instead.
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