Why did Bulma say she hasn't met Goku in 5 years?

[Faisal Shourov]

EoZ happens in age 784, and current year in Super is Age 780. It doesn't make sense

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[ryou766]

Such a small scan.

[Cursemark505]

Because she hadn't.
The newer stuff retconned it.
This is only one of many.
It's nothing new with Dragon ball.
They probably forgot & don't care about Goku's statement.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

The ending was written 20 years before this new material was ever concieved. If you feel like accepting the new films or Super into the continuity, it's a retcon. Simple as that. Nothing to worry about; it's far from the only plot problem in the manga.

[Kaboom]

Because Super is sloppily written and has next to zero regard for the original story's continuity. It's not even like they've sacrificed it for the sake of a good story or anything, it's just carelessness.

[Faisal Shourov]

Because she hadn't.
The newer stuff retconned it.
This is only one of many.
It's nothing new with Dragon ball.
They probably forgot & don't care about Goku's statement.

Can you give more examples of retcon in Super?

[Gyt Kaliba]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of course, but if we're already sacrificing the whole 'the world was at peace for ten years' angle, then I don't see why the 'they haven't seen each other for five years' angle should be preserved any better.

Granted, this could all be avoided if they, Toriyama included, weren't so reluctant to take the franchise past where the series ended instead of eternally keeping us in that ten year gap...but it is what it is. And for better or worse, I for one have enjoyed the newer material enough to be okay with sacrificing one or two lines of dialogue from the hastily thrown together 'dear god just let me stop drawing this now, please' ending that Toriyama came up with 20 years ago.

Again, that's just my own viewpoint on it though. I can totally understand where others wouldn't see it the same way, because even I would prefer it not be a choice between the two things. I love the ending, particularly the setup of Pan and Oob and getting to see the older Goten and Trunks, and I still have a (perhaps naive) hope that Super will move on to do stuff with all of that at a later point in time. Until then though, it is what it is.

[Hellspawn28]

Toriyama wrote the ending to DBZ before Super even existed. Goku even said that Buu is the strongest opponent that he has fought when that is wrong. It eve said that they went 10 years of peace when that is wrong too since we had Beerus, Freeza's return, Champa and Black during that 10 years.

[Grimlock]

Toriyama wrote the ending to DBZ before Super even existed. Goku even said that Buu is the strongest opponent that he has fought when that is wrong. It eve said that they went 10 years of peace when that is wrong too since we had Beerus, Freeza, Champa and Black during that 10 years.

Goku said Buu was the strongest during their fight, not after it, so there is nothing wrong with his statement.

[Makai]

Because it's a small line that has nothing to do with the overall chapter, and can easily be retcon'd if they want it to be.

[ChaosLordBrandon]

Because it's a small line that has nothing to do with the overall chapter, and can easily be retcon'd if they want it to be.

/Thread.

[JulieYBM]

EoZ happens in age 784, and current year in Super is Age 780. It doesn't make sense

It makes perfect sense. The final two chapters got in the way of telling the story the production staff wanted to tell, so they ignored it.

[Xeztin]

It's obviously because it was written 20 years ago and it was simply retconed by the new material like the others said, but one might wonder if they are trying to tell us EOZ isn't happening in Super. I think it's just a mistake but If Bra isn't born any time soon, or pan gets a few years older, than it's definitely not happening.

[Kuririn Fan]

Its really not a big deal. And i think EoZ is still staying,there were far bigger contradictions than this "5 year line", such as 8 months for DBs to be activated and Cell coming back after Goku blasted his top half. Toriyama wont replace it with material he doesnt like. Even if he somehow he does replace it, i wont care, manga will always stay canon for me, and not this mediocre at best material.

[Videls_Panties]

Cell coming back after Goku blasted his top half.

Someone else agrees with me about that! I've been saying that for years Goku should have won before Gohan even got a chance...

[Bullza]

Well the training trips line fits with them constantly going away to Beerus' planet at least.

[Cursemark505]

Granted, this could all be avoided if they, Toriyama included, weren't so reluctant to take the franchise past where the series ended instead of eternally keeping us in that ten year gap....

I find it odd since everyone could easily wish for youth.
Bulma said she was gonna do that anyways so I don't see why not.
He could go past the ten year gap and retain everyone's youth if he actually used his brain.

What's the point of the Dragon balls if they're hardly used?

[Gyt Kaliba]

I dunno...one part of me wants to say they wouldn't abuse the Dragon Balls in such a mundane fashion like that...but then we have Bulma using them as freakin' Bingo game prizes, so who the heck knows.

Maybe it's a case where Bulma would, but the others wouldn't really? Regardless though, the best case scenario, IMO at least, is something that manages to keep the broad strokes of the ending (Pan being a pretty strong toddler, Goku and the others entering the tournament and Goku finding Oob and deciding to go train him), while perhaps painting it all in a new light given what we now know via Super.

[dragonballhero]

I dunno...one part of me wants to say they wouldn't abuse the Dragon Balls in such a mundane fashion like that...but then we have Bulma using them as freakin' Bingo game prizes, so who the heck knows.

Maybe it's a case where Bulma would, but the others wouldn't really? Regardless though, the best case scenario, IMO at least, is something that manages to keep the broad strokes of the ending (Pan being a pretty strong toddler, Goku and the others entering the tournament and Goku finding Oob and deciding to go train him), while perhaps painting it all in a new light given what we now know via Super.

Aaaaaand....cue the Shadow Dragons.

[Lord Beerus]

Super wanted to tell more of a story and obviously wasn't going to let the final few chapters of the manga get in the way of that. To be honest, the line itself doesn't really carry that much value. Goku's supposed five year absence doesn't have any real bearing on the story anyway by that point the manga, so it's really not that big of a deal. It's a minor retcon at worst if you have Super taking place within the main continuity in which the original story from manga exists as well.