The_Destroyer wrote:If Yamcha fought in RoF, I wouldn't be too upset that he is left out in the latest arc. If you look at ending 3 for dragonball super, You'll see Yamcha,Tien,Krillin,Goten,Trunks,Piccolo,Vegeta,Gohan,and Goku all looking into the sky, but not Roshi or Choatzu, so Toei considers him a Z fighter. Yet, they continue to leave him out of big arcs. Why?
That's a question only the members of Toei staff who sat in the discussions room (before RoF or DBS' adaption of it) can answer. If they thought that having him in the "Usubeni" (the best DBS ending song so far if you ask me) would repay for his absence in the actual fight against Frieza, they're SO wrong. If they really wanted to do some fans service or simply justice with Yamcha (who is one of the most lovable characters in the Dragon Ball franchise) & Chiaotzu, they can add them to the existing cells of either the movie or the anime (much easier, Toei, we know you lurk here), draw a few action scenes with them against the Frieza mooks to fill in the gap and re-dub Tien's line about leaving them behind because it was "too dangerous for them" into something like "We're here as well, is it really Frieza?" & add them lines as well, if going for the anime then also have Ginyu-Tagoma take them out as well (could grab Chiaotzu by his head and throw him at Yamcha like a fastball, thus leaving the existing scenario of him taking out all the Z-Fighters untouched) AND THIS NONSENSE IS HISTORY. It should take less than a week to execute this (either to the existing movie or to the DBS RoF Arc), considering the fact I've saw somewhere it takes them 3.5 days to make a Dragon Ball Super Episode.
Even I could do that in a few minutes, so no excuses from a professional animation studio are welcome here:
Zeru14 wrote:Yes it would have been nice for Toriyama to include them in the Return of Frieza arc, their last real battle was the Saiyan Saga and we all know how that went. And its a shame that Toriyama never wrote Yamcha a new love interest(I want it to be Tights, that'll stick it to Bulma), he had the same dream as Krillin but never achieves it, because Toriyama finds making a Yamcha a loser at love and fighting better story telling, and Chiaotzu was changed from a psychic prodigy of the Crane School who could fight evenly with Krillin to the poor wittle guy that cant keep up. And I do think Chiaotzu can have a love interest as well, someone like Tarble's wife Gure would be perfect.
Agreed. I won't mind seeing Yamcha dating Cocoa from the last 2 episodes. Toriyama lost it when the Saiyans took over his franchise, but when having an opportunity of having his less-ape characters shine once again like in RoF, one should simply insert his old heroes for the sake of nostalgia without any questions or doubt. Especially when he knows they made the franchise successful even without blonde aliens.
precita wrote:Yamcha has one of the largest fanbases in the anime. In Japanese polls he outranked both Tenshihan, Cell and other important characters.
Yamcha is underestimated by Toriyama so badly, he is so much enjoyable as a character than the almost one dimensional Tien. He wasn't even referred to in the DBS arc of this movie (guess they realized it would be absurd to claim he was afraid of fighting these weakling Frieza soldiers Roshi & Jaco could take out, but didn't found any better excuse for leaving him out). I guess episode 70 was some form of appologizing to the Yamcha fans he wasn't included in this battle, yet the memes that Saibaman jihad from DBZ provided gave them the chance/excuse to ruin his badassery at the end.
, THIS:
& scenes where all the original Z-Fighters/old guys matter to the plot: 
over this: 
, this: 
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