If goku wins the tournament and uses the dragon balls:
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If goku wins the tournament and uses the dragon balls:
I think he will wish for the universe to be combined instead of destroyed to get it more powerful and meet Zeno's requirements. This allow all the other back story to happen like Vegeta saying he's visit the U6's Sayians planet and whatnot.
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Yes, a lot of people think that
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If each individual universe is below Zeno's required average, then a new merged universe would still be below that average.
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Re: If goku wins the tournament and uses the dragon balls:
Do you expect that thing to understand averages? XDSimere wrote:If each individual universe is below Zeno's required average, then a new merged universe would still be below that average.
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This was my argument against this wildly discussed topic. It wouldn't change the fact that mortal level of the universe is still unacceptable just because they are merged. The Great Priest is smart enough to see through this charade of a wish that circumvents the Zenos desire to eliminate the low level mortals. Idk if any universe will actually be destroyed. My thoughts are that they're will be a tie between U6 and U7 thus the important characters are saved and the extras will be eliminated.Simere wrote:If each individual universe is below Zeno's required average, then a new merged universe would still be below that average.
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I like it...Arugela wrote:I think he will wish for the universe to be combined instead of destroyed to get it more powerful and meet Zeno's requirements. This allow all the other back story to happen like Vegeta saying he's visit the U6's Sayians planet and whatnot.
Goku is of very simple thoughts, so I imagine the scenario like this:
Grand Priest: Goku san, what's going to be your wish?
Goku: You know, Zen-chan said there are too many universes, right?
Grand Priest: That is correct, he certainly said that! So what's your wish again?
Goku: Then I want Super Shenlon to make one single universe for all of us!
Grand Priest: Oh..! That's actually a strange idea... But very well...
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if he did that what becomes of the god of destruction's and their angels?
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Re: If goku wins the tournament and uses the dragon balls:
Well here's how I see it. The mortals are graded a very wide variety of aspects. Each universes has its own unique flaws that stop it from achieving balance needed. Thats what it really boils down to. The balance of good and evil, chaos and order, destruction and creation. If they were combined the varitay of aspect, a universe could become more then then sum of its parts. A universe that blends the Macho with the Intellectual, the Conspiratorial with the Spontaneous, Justice and Beauty, the Lucky and the Challenging. If the Kaioshin worked at it and Beerus stopped being such a temperamental git, they could work to create a balanced, well rounded universes that could rival the top 4.MagmonKai wrote:This was my argument against this wildly discussed topic. It wouldn't change the fact that mortal level of the universe is still unacceptable just because they are merged. The Great Priest is smart enough to see through this charade of a wish that circumvents the Zenos desire to eliminate the low level mortals. Idk if any universe will actually be destroyed. My thoughts are that they're will be a tie between U6 and U7 thus the important characters are saved and the extras will be eliminated.Simere wrote:If each individual universe is below Zeno's required average, then a new merged universe would still be below that average.
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What are you calling a thing?!wolflonnie wrote:Do you expect that thing to understand averages? XDSimere wrote:If each individual universe is below Zeno's required average, then a new merged universe would still be below that average.
And It depends on how they meant averages. If they didn't mean literal average of all being then it might be the case. It's possible they are only counting powers of things above a certain power level.. does it say average in the Japanese version. And does it have only the same meaning as in English without any other colloquial meanings?! I wasn't assuming it was that simple.
For instance if they mean per space in a different way and they squished all the universes into the same space(into Universe 7) it would drastically increase power level per area.
They could be averaging per planet but with a different calculation for individual planets. There are lots of ways that could not be straight forward. Say if it only counted per strongest on each planet. Then averaging would give higher per planet after population increase. It depends on the purpose of the calculation/statistic. It only needs to average it in the end or at a single point to be able to be refered to as averaging potentially. Average strongest beings per planet would be increased with smushing more populations in... Or if the galaxies are merely put in, similar things would still increase depending on which way it's counted.
From what we've seen so far some of the higher beings references to power was a bit odd. It only took into account certain things. It could easily not be all beings.
And there is no specific reason to believe the high priest would consider it a bad wish. They just might not care enough. And if suggested by the winner might simply be acceptable to them. Heck, it could be their intent. We don't know why they wan this or really anything about it. So we have no idea what would be acceptable or not.
What if the whole thing has to do with correcting the attitudes of the gods themselves(possibly purposeless making them fear for their existence to wake them up.). Making them deal with each other in one universe might be consider a good solution. If not it's a funny one. Maybe it would become reality television for Zeno to keep him entertained. Heck, it would help with beeruses need to nap if he had more around to help between slumbers.
Goku could also wish all universe be merged too. Maybe not just the ones in trouble. He's a peace and harmony type of guy after all.
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I think a merge in Universe's would not happen. It'd cause too much damage overall.
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I'm hoping the universe are destroyed as they go and the Super Dragon Balls cant undo Zenos destruction.
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Could I ask you why do you hope that?GodKaio-Ken wrote:I'm hoping the universe are destroyed as they go and the Super Dragon Balls cant undo Zenos destruction.
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Re: If goku wins the tournament and uses the dragon balls:
Because the Dragon Ball series is too full of these types of things, no doubt. Immense damage happens only for it to be reversed. For once, something needs to remain as it happens.Low Tone G wrote:Could I ask you why do you hope that?GodKaio-Ken wrote:I'm hoping the universe are destroyed as they go and the Super Dragon Balls cant undo Zenos destruction.
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Re: If goku wins the tournament and uses the dragon balls:
I think if Goku does win, he will try to bring back all of the Universes and the Grand Priest tells him "Sorry you can't do that". Goku will probably make a deal and have one Universe be wish back. So he ends up wishing back Universe 6 and Goku wants to get all of the Super Dragon Balls to wish back Universe 11 because he wants to fight Jiren again. That's my prediction.
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Re: If goku wins the tournament and uses the dragon balls:
Because them fixing it is too obvious and cheesy. Id rather see something permanent.Low Tone G wrote:Could I ask you why do you hope that?GodKaio-Ken wrote:I'm hoping the universe are destroyed as they go and the Super Dragon Balls cant undo Zenos destruction.
If the Super DB can change what Zeno does why not wish back Trunks timeline.
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Re: If goku wins the tournament and uses the dragon balls:
Nobody cares for poor trunks, make it happen and let this be the joke for future memes to come..GodKaio-Ken wrote:Because them fixing it is too obvious and cheesy. Id rather see something permanent.Low Tone G wrote:Could I ask you why do you hope that?GodKaio-Ken wrote:I'm hoping the universe are destroyed as they go and the Super Dragon Balls cant undo Zenos destruction.
If the Super DB can change what Zeno does why not wish back Trunks timeline.
I can see it happen though, namek is there and they have the Dragonballs, goku could have gone with him and IT is all back in the Android arc alone, but nope..
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Re: If goku wins the tournament and uses the dragon balls:
I predicted a scenerio like this... where Goku wishes for all the beings, galaxies and planets from the other universes that lose in the Tournament Of Power to be restored into Universe 7.
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So where are all these Gods going to live? They going to all stay at the world of the Kais? Then we will have 9 supreme kais and 8 Gods of Destruction. Come on man that's just dumb.
Those universes are superfluous and you know it. We only need the folks from U6.
Those universes are superfluous and you know it. We only need the folks from U6.
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Re: If goku wins the tournament and uses the dragon balls:
I wonder what will happen to the Super Dragon Balls after the Tournament of Power.
What about Zarama?
Will they disappear as well?
I would think that if they still want to stick with the Super DBs, they must keep Universe 7 and U6 alive as well.
And on more thing... Where will the last warrior make his wish? At Zeno's place? And where will the SDBs scatter if U6 or U7 is no more?
What about Zarama?
Will they disappear as well?
I would think that if they still want to stick with the Super DBs, they must keep Universe 7 and U6 alive as well.
And on more thing... Where will the last warrior make his wish? At Zeno's place? And where will the SDBs scatter if U6 or U7 is no more?
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