DBM or DBS(Tournaments)
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Ignoring the fact that it's a fan fiction, which tournament has been better for you? ToP or Multiverse tournament
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Hmm, it depends on what you like I guess. I for one, like a tournament in which every universe is unique, so I guess Super would win this one for me. I was never a fan of just having the 10 Gokus, 10 Vegetas, and a bunch of what-if scenario versions of the exact same characters; It just doesn't feel as creative to me.
Even in it's twin universe, the Saiyans are the only similar fighters. Even though some of them may have similar characteristics our saiyans, they are still their own persons. I also like the format of the DBS tournament more. The battle royal thing hasn't been done before, but the one on one fights have been done to death in dragon ball already.
Just my two cents on the matter.
Even in it's twin universe, the Saiyans are the only similar fighters. Even though some of them may have similar characteristics our saiyans, they are still their own persons. I also like the format of the DBS tournament more. The battle royal thing hasn't been done before, but the one on one fights have been done to death in dragon ball already.
Just my two cents on the matter.
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I think the current tournament has been lacking in the fights' quality so for me multiverse is better. Multiverse has also done a better job with its new characters in terms of telling us backgrounds and trying to get us to care about them.
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Not really a big fan of 20 goku and vegetassintzu wrote:I think the current tournament has been lacking in the fights' quality so for me multiverse is better. Multiverse has also done a better job with its new characters in terms of telling us backgrounds and trying to get us to care about them.
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Dragonballgod19 wrote:Not really a big fan of 20 goku and vegetassintzu wrote:I think the current tournament has been lacking in the fights' quality so for me multiverse is better. Multiverse has also done a better job with its new characters in terms of telling us backgrounds and trying to get us to care about them.
Vs 20+ undeveloped, canon fodder, one dimensional and sometimes outright copycats?
DBM feels like a truer sequel than Super in almost all aspects. It's a shame it'll never be animated.
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I was hoping the current tournament would be structured like it (or the dark tournament from YuYu Hakusho) but I guess it was too much to wish for. What we have is OK but nowhere near what it could've been.PeanutSaiyan wrote:Vs 20+ undeveloped, canon fodder, one dimensional and sometimes outright copycats?
DBM feels like a truer sequel than Super in almost all aspects. It's a shame it'll never be animated.
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Multiverse actually has a lot of problems like with the vegito and bra wanking and especially the special which are getting annoyingPeanutSaiyan wrote:Dragonballgod19 wrote:Not really a big fan of 20 goku and vegetassintzu wrote:I think the current tournament has been lacking in the fights' quality so for me multiverse is better. Multiverse has also done a better job with its new characters in terms of telling us backgrounds and trying to get us to care about them.
Vs 20+ undeveloped, canon fodder, one dimensional and sometimes outright copycats?
DBM feels like a truer sequel than Super in almost all aspects. It's a shame it'll never be animated.
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You sure you're not talking about Multiverse here?PeanutSaiyan wrote:Dragonballgod19 wrote:Not really a big fan of 20 goku and vegetassintzu wrote:I think the current tournament has been lacking in the fights' quality so for me multiverse is better. Multiverse has also done a better job with its new characters in terms of telling us backgrounds and trying to get us to care about them.
Vs 20+ undeveloped, canon fodder, one dimensional and sometimes outright copycats?
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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^thisKanassa wrote:You sure you're not talking about Multiverse here?PeanutSaiyan wrote:Dragonballgod19 wrote: Not really a big fan of 20 goku and vegetas
Vs 20+ undeveloped, canon fodder, one dimensional and sometimes outright copycats?
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Super of course.
Dragon Ball Multiverse is insanely repetitive and dragged out to no end.
Dragon Ball Multiverse is insanely repetitive and dragged out to no end.
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Multiverse is altogether different in terms of storytelling, narrative and has been going on for much, much longer. Hard to compare, honestly. I do enjoy Multiverse generally, except for some real stupid decisions by the writers, such as going with that silly literal interpretation of "Broly's power rises indefinitely as long as he remains in LSSJ", but it otherwise is nicely drawn and has some real cool plot twists and backstories.
As for the ToP - Super has never been so action-packed so far. Episode after episode of straight-up brawling and fights. It's really quite thrilling and fun to watch - regardless if the stakes prove true or not. The fighting is so much fun that I don't really care about the stakes much (especially since there are the Super DBs).
As for the ToP - Super has never been so action-packed so far. Episode after episode of straight-up brawling and fights. It's really quite thrilling and fun to watch - regardless if the stakes prove true or not. The fighting is so much fun that I don't really care about the stakes much (especially since there are the Super DBs).
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I hate Multiverse and it's story... So Super for me
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The ToP roster is way more innovative than anything any of the expanded universe materials (such as games) has done over the years, and much more interesting than what Toei Animation themselves have come up with for the theatrical movies. Almost every villain from those movies drew heavily from something that previously appeared in the manga in at least one aspect. While there are some homage characters, these homages are openly acknowledged, unlike what Toei did for the movies. Not to mention right now we've at least got numerous characters whose design isn't a reference to what came before.Dragonballgod19 wrote: Vs 20+ undeveloped, canon fodder, one dimensional and sometimes outright copycats?
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While Multiverse is a fun fan fiction, its just too fan servicey and the repetitive specials kind of made me lose interest. I mean we don't need a back story on what happened in every universe.
As for the Tournament of Power, while yeah it has fan service, I am enjoying where its going and giving characters spotlight that haven't had one in a while.
As for the Tournament of Power, while yeah it has fan service, I am enjoying where its going and giving characters spotlight that haven't had one in a while.
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How many new characters can you name apart from the 3 wolves, Toppo, Jerin, Culiflaw & Kale ?Kanassa wrote:You sure you're not talking about Multiverse here?
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Eh, as much as Super doesn't seem to be using the battle royal thing all too well, Multiverse is just kind of boring.
So I'll take Super.
So I'll take Super.
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I think Super is using it well, just not as well as it could. People are saying TOEI has been handling the battle royale poorly, and while I don't think they're doing a great job of it, I don't see why it's so bad either. It leaves a lot to be desired, but it's still fun.Boo Machine wrote:Eh, as much as Super doesn't seem to be using the battle royal thing all too well, Multiverse is just kind of boring.
So I'll take Super.
I haven't read DBM in a long while, but I thought the alternate universe approach is more interesting than the 12 completely different universe approach Super has taken. I mean, seeing Goku and Vegeta AND Vegito in the same place? That's pretty neat. The Bra wanking was really annoying though.
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Oh, For sure. I'm still enjoying good chunk of it so I wouldn't call it bad. I think my main issue is it's not as chaotic as I'd thought it would be. Kind of feels like each Universe is lining up to take turns fighting U 6 or 7 instead of everyone scrambling knocking out whoever. But there is still a good number of fighters in the tournament, so I imagine there is still quite a bit to look forward to.Asura wrote:I think Super is using it well, just not as well as it could. People are saying TOEI has been handling the battle royale poorly, and while I don't think they're doing a great job of it, I don't see why it's so bad either. It leaves a lot to be desired, but it's still fun.Boo Machine wrote:Eh, as much as Super doesn't seem to be using the battle royal thing all too well, Multiverse is just kind of boring.
So I'll take Super.
I was into it for a bit, it does have some neat ideas in place. But I'm not super interested in most of the characters. I thought Bra was interesting until, yeah, she went downhill for me.Asura wrote: I haven't read DBM in a long while, but I thought the alternate universe approach is more interesting than the 12 completely different universe approach Super has taken. I mean, seeing Goku and Vegeta AND Vegito in the same place? That's pretty neat. The Bra wanking was really annoying though.
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I feel if DBM was both official and an animated series, and DBS's tournament arc was the fanfiction, that would greatly influence people's opinions towards them both. There will always be that bias over fan work. That said, most serious fan works I've personally seen have been godawful, with DBM being an exception, and probably the holy grail in the fan-made community.
Anyways, on-topic, both tournaments have their flaws. DBS is a cluster fuck with no rhyme or reason, and despite people clamoring about all the new characters, they're pretty much all uninspired or straight fodder, so that's not much of a pro at all. As for DBM, the tournament isn't just an arc in the series; it IS the series. Naturally, it's dragged out. And considering it takes ages for chapters to end since it's made by a couple of fans, that's not going to change anytime soon. Had the entire series been finished by now, I'd probably say DBM is hands down better than 80% of Super (20% being the Black arc).
Both are still ongoing, so I don't have an opinion one way or another. DBS's tournament, in particular, just started so it's unfair to rate the arc as a whole.
Anyways, on-topic, both tournaments have their flaws. DBS is a cluster fuck with no rhyme or reason, and despite people clamoring about all the new characters, they're pretty much all uninspired or straight fodder, so that's not much of a pro at all. As for DBM, the tournament isn't just an arc in the series; it IS the series. Naturally, it's dragged out. And considering it takes ages for chapters to end since it's made by a couple of fans, that's not going to change anytime soon. Had the entire series been finished by now, I'd probably say DBM is hands down better than 80% of Super (20% being the Black arc).
Both are still ongoing, so I don't have an opinion one way or another. DBS's tournament, in particular, just started so it's unfair to rate the arc as a whole.
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