Yes but they usually don't lie outright with character plotpoints involving clear cut numbers, does this mean Broly isn't 10 foot in LSS either?Miracles wrote:Promotional material statements aren't fact until/unless it is in the actual story.GodVegetto91 wrote:Okay guys, it’s time to get mad again. Are you ready?? There was one thing in this summary that truly truly pissed me the fuck off! And that was Paragus scanning Baby Broly’s power level to be 920. Uhmmm... the Fuck!? It was very clearly revealed in a promo material a few weeks back that Broly was born with a PL of over 10.000! They just can NOT stay consistent at all it seems... Why is that so hard? Why do they contradict themselves soo fucking much? Sorry for my rant guys, but i am just really mad and dissapointed here. I just don’t see how i can EVER take the people behind the show seriously if they can’t keep things at least a little consistent as a collective. Everything changes all the goddamn time!
So was his power level 10 thousand now at birth? Or much less as these spoilers state....? I have lost all hope in the people behind this show.
Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"
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Sure, but are power levels even plot points anymore? It was only used back then when it 'mattered' and never brought up again in the movie.CTAkuma wrote:Yes but they usually don't lie outright with character plotpoints involving clear cut numbers, does this mean Broly isn't 10 foot in LSS either?Miracles wrote:Promotional material statements aren't fact until/unless it is in the actual story.GodVegetto91 wrote:Okay guys, it’s time to get mad again. Are you ready?? There was one thing in this summary that truly truly pissed me the fuck off! And that was Paragus scanning Baby Broly’s power level to be 920. Uhmmm... the Fuck!? It was very clearly revealed in a promo material a few weeks back that Broly was born with a PL of over 10.000! They just can NOT stay consistent at all it seems... Why is that so hard? Why do they contradict themselves soo fucking much? Sorry for my rant guys, but i am just really mad and dissapointed here. I just don’t see how i can EVER take the people behind the show seriously if they can’t keep things at least a little consistent as a collective. Everything changes all the goddamn time!
So was his power level 10 thousand now at birth? Or much less as these spoilers state....? I have lost all hope in the people behind this show.
Feels over Reals.
Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
They are because the entire reason Broly was cast away because he was too powerful in King Vegeta's eyes. A PL of 920 isn't too powerful and that's assuming baby Broly always had a PL of 920RedHeat wrote:Sure, but are power levels even plot points anymore? It was only used back then when it 'mattered' and never brought up again in the movie.CTAkuma wrote:Yes but they usually don't lie outright with character plotpoints involving clear cut numbers, does this mean Broly isn't 10 foot in LSS either?Miracles wrote: Promotional material statements aren't fact until/unless it is in the actual story.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
I was initially a little iffy with Freeza’s wish, but if it’s really just a wish to be 5 centimetres taller, I think that’s won me over.
That is just far prettier than being a vague amount taller, and considering the exact portion he wants to be taller I see why he just didn’t transform. Because he doesn’t want to be a giant, he just wants to be all of 5 centimetres taller.
Love it.
That is just far prettier than being a vague amount taller, and considering the exact portion he wants to be taller I see why he just didn’t transform. Because he doesn’t want to be a giant, he just wants to be all of 5 centimetres taller.
Love it.
Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
However, was that stat confirmed in the canon?CTAkuma wrote:Yes but they usually don't lie outright with character plotpoints involving clear cut numbers, does this mean Broly isn't 10 foot in LSS either?Miracles wrote:Promotional material statements aren't fact until/unless it is in the actual story.GodVegetto91 wrote:Okay guys, it’s time to get mad again. Are you ready?? There was one thing in this summary that truly truly pissed me the fuck off! And that was Paragus scanning Baby Broly’s power level to be 920. Uhmmm... the Fuck!? It was very clearly revealed in a promo material a few weeks back that Broly was born with a PL of over 10.000! They just can NOT stay consistent at all it seems... Why is that so hard? Why do they contradict themselves soo fucking much? Sorry for my rant guys, but i am just really mad and dissapointed here. I just don’t see how i can EVER take the people behind the show seriously if they can’t keep things at least a little consistent as a collective. Everything changes all the goddamn time!
So was his power level 10 thousand now at birth? Or much less as these spoilers state....? I have lost all hope in the people behind this show.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Am I the only one who's a little emotional over finding out that Goku Finally acknowledges who he truly is and his saiyan heritage?
this feels like the first step to Character development for Goku rather than just powerups and boosts through willpower
and the fact that he sympathises with Broly knowing and understanding that Broly's childhood and way of living is truly similar to his own back when he was a kid getting raised by Grandpa Gohan
Honestly that won me over this happening made my heart warm and truly shows where Akira wants to take these characters next
and as for Freeza that Piece of shit (I had a huge gut feeling that he was gonna kill Paragus) Freeza basically killed Goku's parents (Gine Presumably is Dead along with the destruction of their home planet) Vegeta's father and Now Broly's
I Hope the beatdown Freeza gets from Broly is truly worse than Hakaishin Toppo's in the T.O.P I want Freeza to suffer in this film for being an asshole
most likely the story is a 6/10 and the overall visuals + Fight choreography hail it at a 8.5/10
Can't wait !
this feels like the first step to Character development for Goku rather than just powerups and boosts through willpower
and the fact that he sympathises with Broly knowing and understanding that Broly's childhood and way of living is truly similar to his own back when he was a kid getting raised by Grandpa Gohan
Honestly that won me over this happening made my heart warm and truly shows where Akira wants to take these characters next
and as for Freeza that Piece of shit (I had a huge gut feeling that he was gonna kill Paragus) Freeza basically killed Goku's parents (Gine Presumably is Dead along with the destruction of their home planet) Vegeta's father and Now Broly's
I Hope the beatdown Freeza gets from Broly is truly worse than Hakaishin Toppo's in the T.O.P I want Freeza to suffer in this film for being an asshole
most likely the story is a 6/10 and the overall visuals + Fight choreography hail it at a 8.5/10
Can't wait !
Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
That's the reason we are talking about it here, since it mentions Broly having a PL of 10k at birth which fits in with King Vegeta exiling him for his power and this leak saying kid Broly has a powerlevel of 920 which contradicts the reasoning that King Vegeta was too afraid of Broly's powerMiracles wrote:However, was that stat confirmed in the canon?CTAkuma wrote:Yes but they usually don't lie outright with character plotpoints involving clear cut numbers, does this mean Broly isn't 10 foot in LSS either?Miracles wrote: Promotional material statements aren't fact until/unless it is in the actual story.
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Wasn't that what happened when Vegeta died?Noitsnothim wrote:Am I the only one who's a little emotional over finding out that Goku Finally acknowledges who he truly is and his saiyan heritage?
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He did that back in the Namek arc.Noitsnothim wrote:Am I the only one who's a little emotional over finding out that Goku Finally acknowledges who he truly is and his saiyan heritage?
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I mean..... he kinda already completely did that with his whole "I am" speech to Freeza way back in Z. But I suppose you could say he embraced it even more so with that step.Noitsnothim wrote:Am I the only one who's a little emotional over finding out that Goku Finally acknowledges who he truly is and his saiyan heritage?
this feels like the first step to Character development for Goku rather than just powerups and boosts through willpower
and the fact that he sympathises with Broly knowing and understanding that Broly's childhood and way of living is truly similar to his own back when he was a kid getting raised by Grandpa Gohan
Honestly that won me over this happening made my heart warm and truly shows where Akira wants to take these characters next
and as for Freeza that Piece of shit (I had a huge gut feeling that he was gonna kill Paragus) Freeza basically killed Goku's parents (Gine Presumably is Dead along with the destruction of their home planet) Vegeta's father and Now Broly's
I Hope the beatdown Freeza gets from Broly is truly worse than Hakaishin Toppo's in the T.O.P I want Freeza to suffer in this film for being an asshole
most likely the story is a 6/10 and the overall visuals + Fight choreography hail it at a 8.5/10
Can't wait !
Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
*Saiyan arc.Doctor. wrote:He did that back in the Namek arc.Noitsnothim wrote:Am I the only one who's a little emotional over finding out that Goku Finally acknowledges who he truly is and his saiyan heritage?
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But he never called himself kakarot.Doctor. wrote:He did that back in the Namek arc.Noitsnothim wrote:Am I the only one who's a little emotional over finding out that Goku Finally acknowledges who he truly is and his saiyan heritage?
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You have to explain yourself, then again didn't you hate battle of gods?Doctor. wrote:Honestly this movie seems worse than the original.
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Does he call himself Kakarot in this?Dragono wrote:But he never called himself kakarot.Doctor. wrote:He did that back in the Namek arc.Noitsnothim wrote:Am I the only one who's a little emotional over finding out that Goku Finally acknowledges who he truly is and his saiyan heritage?
No, I loved Battle of Gods.Dragono wrote:You have to explain yourself, then again didn't you hate battle of gods?Doctor. wrote:Honestly this movie seems worse than the original.
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I'm confused, the first wish on the dragon balls were panties to save the world. Gag wishes are nothing new to this series.JazzMazz wrote:I was initially a little iffy with Freeza’s wish, but if it’s really just a wish to be 5 centimetres taller, I think that’s won me over.
That is just far prettier than being a vague amount taller, and considering the exact portion he wants to be taller I see why he just didn’t transform. Because he doesn’t want to be a giant, he just wants to be all of 5 centimetres taller.
Love it.
Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Yes, he does. According to spoilers.Doctor. wrote:Does he call himself Kakarot in this?Dragono wrote:But he never called himself kakarot.Doctor. wrote:
He did that back in the Namek arc.
No, I loved Battle of Gods.Dragono wrote:You have to explain yourself, then again didn't you hate battle of gods?Doctor. wrote:Honestly this movie seems worse than the original.
Oh wow, then i am even more INTERESTED in why you don't like it. Because it seems like a solid dragon ball film to me. Pros and cons in all.
Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Honestly? This movie sounds like it'll be stupider than the first Broly film and only make that one look better narratively by comparison.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
That's why I'm just waiting for official subs or Herms to touch this movie.CTAkuma wrote:That's the reason we are talking about it here, since it mentions Broly having a PL of 10k at birth which fits in with King Vegeta exiling him for his power and this leak saying kid Broly has a powerlevel of 920 which contradicts the reasoning that King Vegeta was too afraid of Broly's powerMiracles wrote:However, was that stat confirmed in the canon?CTAkuma wrote: Yes but they usually don't lie outright with character plotpoints involving clear cut numbers, does this mean Broly isn't 10 foot in LSS either?
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
I've just seen the summary of Ken Xyro and have some considerable differences between Narutoforums summary regarding fights. By the way, which is the most accurate?
In Narutoforums' summary, Goku and Vegeta only fight together when Broly turns into SSJ (as we saw in the trailer), but according to Ken Xyro they fight together against Rage Broly (which is strange because in the trailer when Broly is turning into SSJ, Goku is alone).
In Narutoforums, it is said that Vegeta SSG overhelm Broly base and only after almost defeating him Broly uses that Rage form and reaches Vegeta (without specifying if he defeated him), while Ken Xyro says all the time '' base Broly '' even when we see that he does not face SSG Vegeta only in his base form, and he says that Broly defeats him and Vegeta is unable to fight.
Ken Xyro says the fusion fails 3 times, while in Narutoforums it only fails 2 times (which is strange too, we've never seen what happens if it fails 3 times, maybe it's a mistake?)
In Narutoforums' summary, Goku and Vegeta only fight together when Broly turns into SSJ (as we saw in the trailer), but according to Ken Xyro they fight together against Rage Broly (which is strange because in the trailer when Broly is turning into SSJ, Goku is alone).
In Narutoforums, it is said that Vegeta SSG overhelm Broly base and only after almost defeating him Broly uses that Rage form and reaches Vegeta (without specifying if he defeated him), while Ken Xyro says all the time '' base Broly '' even when we see that he does not face SSG Vegeta only in his base form, and he says that Broly defeats him and Vegeta is unable to fight.
Ken Xyro says the fusion fails 3 times, while in Narutoforums it only fails 2 times (which is strange too, we've never seen what happens if it fails 3 times, maybe it's a mistake?)
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Now I understand goku never seen beerus full power but I do believe goku knows that and just going with it so beerus doesn’t blow up earth (lol) however stated last line to broly implying he “might” be, there some crazy guy somewhere in here and all over other website keep bring up how Jiren > all, but I’m going stop you there
Beerus fp => mui > Ssb gogeta > sslj broly fp => beerus => broly ssj or l before fp(?) <= base gogeta
That my opinion if you want yours go for it I’m just picturing how I see it after all that TOP / post broly movie nog site where Jiren is in atm since whole thing is shit show but remember that... Jiren is only above a GOD than his own GOD universe 11 nobody else.
Beerus fp => mui > Ssb gogeta > sslj broly fp => beerus => broly ssj or l before fp(?) <= base gogeta
That my opinion if you want yours go for it I’m just picturing how I see it after all that TOP / post broly movie nog site where Jiren is in atm since whole thing is shit show but remember that... Jiren is only above a GOD than his own GOD universe 11 nobody else.
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