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Unreleased Kikuchi music not done by anyone else yet

Post by tronk21 » Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:25 pm

As you know, kei17 and TheZestanor's have worked hard and provided the Dragon Ball fanbase with many exceptional unreleased Shunsuke Kikuchi BGM cues. Well, unfortunately, they haven't done everything. So I decided to work on those tracks that haven't been worked on yet by anyone (or at least tracks not shared anywhere by anyone yet).

I haven't done only those cues that are missing from all of the unreleased Kikuchi music collections found on the Internet. I also did the BGM pieces that have been shared by either TheZestanor or TheWorldDBZ in their YouTube channels, but can't be found in their full length there. So I've added the missing parts to those tracks.

One important thing: These tracks are in lossy format only. I won't share the lossless version of any track and will ignore every private messages about it. Sorry, I can't. I can only tell what the sources are. These are mostly original Dragon Ball DVDs with 5.1 audio. Ocassionally, I've used Dragon Ball Z Blu-Rays with 5.1 audio. For those DB Movie 2 tracks or parts of tracks I've used the audio from the German dub, which is in 5.1.

Also, my M-numbers are guesswork. Just for archival purposes. No one knows the real M-numbers. That's why an official release of the complete Shunsuke Kikuchi score would be most welcome!

So without further ado I present to you a collection of unreleased music from Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z by Shunsuke Kikuchi not found anywhere else:

A - J:

F5: http://matela.stronazen.pl/wp-content/u ... /03/F5.mp3

F9: http://matela.stronazen.pl/wp-content/u ... /03/F9.mp3

F10: http://matela.stronazen.pl/wp-content/u ... 03/F10.mp3

F12: http://matela.stronazen.pl/wp-content/u ... 03/F12.mp3

M0:

M15: http://matela.stronazen.pl/wp-content/u ... 03/M15.mp3

M22B: http://matela.stronazen.pl/wp-content/u ... 3/M22B.mp3

M100:

M103: http://matela.stronazen.pl/wp-content/u ... 2/M103.mp3

M106A: http://matela.stronazen.pl/wp-content/u ... /M106A.mp3

M110: http://matela.stronazen.pl/wp-content/u ... 2/M110.mp3

M300:

M316A: http://matela.stronazen.pl/wp-content/u ... /M316A.mp3

M400:

M407: http://matela.stronazen.pl/wp-content/u ... 3/M407.mp3

M429-2: http://matela.stronazen.pl/wp-content/u ... M429-2.mp3

M441-2: http://matela.stronazen.pl/wp-content/u ... M441-2.mp3

M600:

M613B: http://matela.stronazen.pl/wp-content/u ... /M613B.mp3

M637: http://matela.stronazen.pl/wp-content/u ... 3/M637.mp3

M638: http://matela.stronazen.pl/wp-content/u ... 3/M638.mp3

M1000:

M1008-2: http://matela.stronazen.pl/wp-content/u ... 1008-2.mp3

M1100:

M1113: http://matela.stronazen.pl/wp-content/u ... /M1113.mp3

M1114A: http://matela.stronazen.pl/wp-content/u ... M1114A.mp3

M1500:

M1512B: http://matela.stronazen.pl/wp-content/u ... M1512B.mp3

M1600:

M1611B: http://matela.stronazen.pl/wp-content/u ... M1611B.mp3

M1613: http://matela.stronazen.pl/wp-content/u ... /M1613.mp3

M1700:

M1706 Subtitle Use original: http://matela.stronazen.pl/wp-content/u ... iginal.mp3


That's it! I hope you have fun with those. I certainly had fun with my little editing. Enjoy!
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Post by floofychan333 » Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:40 pm

Large has done some of these on his YouTube channel, but they're named as "Unreleased ##" instead of their actual F# names or whatever.
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Post by tronk21 » Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:39 am

floofychan333 wrote:Large has done some of these on his YouTube channel, but they're named as "Unreleased ##" instead of their actual F# names or whatever.
Yes, that's true that he did some of those in general. But as I stated, some of those can be found in other places, but aren't as complete as mine. I've used some of TheZestanor's unreleased pieces as a base and then filled out the missing part or parts.

So in reply for you, I thoroughly analyzed Large's YouTube channel and want to make it clear that he did work on some of those pieces I've presented, but my version of them is clearly more complete than his. Let alone quality of his songs...

Let's compare one by one (Large's YouTube video - M-number on my list):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDcJaJwrke8 - M15

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JYqRUYLcsk - M407

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-W8Vr98YaY - M638

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw6bdvQ-Zo0 - M1613

Mine are clearly longer!

But maybe you think that on his channel he has some of the tracks that I did in their most complete form. I've checked all the videos from his channel and I think that I know some of his videos that may seem to be as complete as mine if not more. But the thing is that the following tracks of his are not even the same tracks as mine. Mine are alternate versions. I will present them side by side so you can compare in the same pattern as above:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1nfeng4M2M - M22B

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIB4Bmf65Ck - M316A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu0VrKQbz80 - M1008-2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuC3PRBaVKE - M1611B

So yeah, all of the music that I presented cannot be found anywhere else. In fact that was the whole purpose that I started working on Dragon Ball and DBZ BGM. My next step will be to improve some of the tracks that TheZestanor did. His are great, but mine will be cleaner in terms of lacking dialogues and sound effects. However, they will be in lesser quality. The German dub is an old release and has a very poor sound quality (check M441-2). But there will be more of actual music without dialogue and some of the sound effects that his version has. But I will make whole other thread about it once I finish them.

Please do compare my versions of BGMs with those from MugiwaLaarge's YouTube channel and see either the completeness of my pieces over his or the difference between two separate yet similar musical cues.

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Post by DB1984 » Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:20 pm

For some reason, the pitch is off in some of the music cues in episode 2 of DBZ. Especially the one that playes when Roshi explains to Goku how Grandpa Gohan found him.

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Post by tronk21 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:38 am

Nice find! I didn't know that. When you mentioned it, I compared the pitch of the Kamesennin story cue from DB movie 3 with its appearance in DBZ episode 2 (in broadcast audio to have a comparable quality of those two instances of the piece). And yeah, the pitch is higher in episode 2's cue! Also, I think the other movie 3 cue that is used in episode 2 (when everyone tells Raditz that Goku is a decent citizen of the Earth) is also higher in pitch. But I don't see this problem in any other tracks that are not from M600 session. So maybe they played the tape with music from movie 3 in a wrong way when editing BGM for this episode? I don't know. It's certainly an interesting discovery.

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Post by candaceklein » Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:19 pm

Yes, I have never heard about that too. Thanks for that information!
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Post by SaiyaPeepul » Fri May 11, 2018 2:13 am

I think I know an episode where you can get the first 24 seconds of M1512B without sound effects.

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Post by tronk21 » Sat May 12, 2018 1:17 am

Really? I thought that the alternate version of M1512A has appeared only once in the show. And that's why I've put it here in its entirety as-is. Are you saying there's another instance of its use? Please, do tell!

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Post by SaiyaPeepul » Sun May 13, 2018 5:33 pm

tronk21 wrote:Really? I thought that the alternate version of M1512A has appeared only once in the show. And that's why I've put it here in its entirety as-is. Are you saying there's another instance of its use? Please, do tell!
Why sure! Episode 219, when Videl wants to go with Gohan after Spopovich and Yamu suck the energy out of Gohan. It's right after Kibito heals Gohan.

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Post by tronk21 » Tue May 15, 2018 7:14 am

SaiyaPeepul wrote: Why sure! Episode 219, when Videl wants to go with Gohan after Spopovich and Yamu suck the energy out of Gohan. It's right after Kibito heals Gohan.
Thanks! After your comment, I've done my work on the piece and replaced the previous version with the superior one in my first post.

Also, I've added a new short piece M613B. It is an alternate version of this track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPRHKV2HefY

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Post by SaiyaPeepul » Thu May 17, 2018 12:45 am

tronk21 wrote:
Thanks! After your comment, I've done my work on the piece and replaced the previous version with the superior one in my first post.

Also, I've added a new short piece M613B. It is an alternate version of this track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPRHKV2HefY
Great! I have to thank you since when I heard this song in episode 229, I desperately looked for it. Then, I randomly found this forum and there you go! I found that song and others I didn't know existed! So thank you!

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Post by didigoku » Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:59 am

@tronk21 : thank you so much ! especially for M1512A , i was waiting for it for so long ! you've finally made it, it must have been a lot of work.
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Post by tronk21 » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:21 pm

You're welcome! I'm glad you liked it. Frankly, M1512A was not a lot of work. The hardest one to do was M638. The amount of editing was huge and it took me 4 hours to finish the entire track! In contrast, I spent about half an hour on M1512A. Anyway, thanks for the appreciation. All the best to you, sir!

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Post by Rafa Fast » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:13 pm

hi bro! thanks for ripping all these tracks! specially M1512B, I tried to find this one as a retarded! but have one track I really want that nobody had ripped, is the alternate version of M429 "A Toast to the Sleeping Princess" from DB Movie 2, the only place I could find it is in ep 121, you can hear it at 3:31 of this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOXxuNtTg3o
unfortunately it seems that the track is cut in this scene, but that's it, sounds like exactly the normal one that thezestanor had ripped, but have some differences, the main one that I could notice in this alternate is the absence of that short piano part (or whatever is that short small sound) in the last 10 seconds that have in the normal version, I think just me had noticed the existence of this alternate, because even in the kenisu's wesbite this track wasn't mentioned, but 100% sure is a alternate, please I really want a rip of it :\
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Post by tronk21 » Sun Dec 23, 2018 7:33 am

Rafa Fast wrote:but have one track I really want that nobody had ripped, is the alternate version of M429 "A Toast to the Sleeping Princess" from DB Movie 2, the only place I could find it is in ep 121, you can hear it at 3:31 of this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOXxuNtTg3o
unfortunately it seems that the track is cut in this scene, but that's it, sounds like exactly the normal one that thezestanor had ripped, but have some differences, the main one that I could notice in this alternate is the absence of that short piano part (or whatever is that short small sound) in the last 10 seconds that have in the normal version, I think just me had noticed the existence of this alternate, because even in the kenisu's wesbite this track wasn't mentioned, but 100% sure is a alternate, please I really want a rip of it :\
Oh, damn!! That's a really awesome find! I'm shocked to miss this one. And it's from my favorite batch of Kikuchi music, which is M400! I will rip it some time whenever I have the time for sure. Apart from the lack of this sharp sound that you mentioned, the cue is generally perfomed at a slower speed. Definitely an alternate, no question about it!

Also, I've discovered yet another track that needs to be ripped. It's this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHMyoF2OHpA

You may ask: why rip it if it's already on YouTube? Well, believe it or not, that's not the full track! It's missing about 5 seconds. The only place where you can find the full version of this track is on the drama cassette tape of DBZ Movie 4 that I've recently bought. This one: http://matela.stronazen.pl/31-dragon-ba ... orama-hen/ The problem is it may take a while as I sent the tape to my friend from Poland but that was a month ago and he still hasn't ripped it. In the meantime I've acquired my own cassette deck and I'm ready to rip it myself but don't have the tape. So I'm clueless as to when he will rip the tape or give it back so that I can do it myself. When I do get the rip, I will of course upload only a short fragment containing the full track here, not the entire hour-long tape due to copyright.

Also, thanks for putting some of my tracks on YouTube, that way more people can listen and be aware of just how much more of the unreleased Kikuchi tracks are there. Take care!

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Post by Acetona » Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:55 pm

Wow, the most interesting one is M1613, I never noticed it had those extra seconds. Awesome, thank you very much!

EDIT: This one is missing a few seconds. As heard on DB episode 32 and DBZ episode 43.
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Post by tronk21 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:41 am

Oh, so there's much work to be done on Kikuchi then. I need to add a few seconds to M1113 from the aforementioned tape whenever possible, rip the entire alternate M429 and add a few missing notes to both M110 and M103. Also, it seems to me that this one is incomplete: https://youtu.be/4R-ePLftstE. So I'll work on that one as well.

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Post by tronk21 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:10 pm

I've finished three tracks: M103 and 110 with the missing notes added and what's available of M429-2 in the show. I've added them to my first post on this thread.

I've noticed that what TheZestanor labelled as M323 in his video is as complete as it can be because all the fragments that his version contains is what's available in the show and nothing more. The only thing that may be improved in it are voices, which can be faintly heard in the middle of his video with the Uranai Baba track. Have a listen to this version, it does not have this kind of quiet dialogue in it, but is admittedly in lesser quality and slightly less complete: https://youtu.be/2hfdlf-bJ78?t=50

I hope someone will enjoy this little work that I've done besides myself as it was fun to do.

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Post by Acetona » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:10 pm

Wow, you even got rid of that electricity sound effect from TheZestanor's M103 rip. Awesome, thanks! :D
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Post by Rafa Fast » Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:02 pm

my gosh, that's exactly the track I wanted! slower and have absence of the piano, thank you very much! you're a god! unfortunately I think that scene from ep 121 is the only place I could find this alternate being used...

Now definitely just have one or two tracks I wanting for, the first one is M618A (?) from DBC Movie 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0n0PxKGcHM
for some reason, thezestanor forgot about this small track in his ripping list of Movie 3, he skips from M616(?) to M618B (?) (I don't mention M617 because this one is a released track), thanks to me for rewatching the movie recently, and had noticed this small track.
And the second one, I'm not 100% sure about this one, is another alternate of a track, but this time from Z, is a possible alternate of M1710??? Like I said, I'm not 100% sure, I'm still confused in this one, Idk if is a alternate, or is just a trolling from the audio quality, is in episode 287, before Goku, Vegeta, Buu, Dende, Satan and his dog returns to earth, I will put the link here (actually are two) and let yourself check if is a alternate or not:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--gb0NYbP-4 (1:45 - 2:58)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkUaVczRwQU (0:00-0:17)

also, one question, is about this track here:
Are you sure that this is a actual track? because I was relestening to some tracks these days, and noticed that this "M643" sounds like exactly the part at 0:03 from F28(?): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMkw4llzI10

also thank you for the support bro, unfortunately I don't have the necessary things to rip musics, and I like to upload the entire soundtracks, without any missed track, and to do this I need to get the rips from other people, I at least say to support the original person that had ripped the track, but is pretty bad just getting rips from other people too..., thank you by the way!
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