What do you want with Broly?

[Mad Swami]

To bring this back to Broly. I don't see how much depth they can get from his sob story. It was almost comical.

Well I think a cute little friendship story, one about people not using him for gain and instead just care about him. His power and how he controls it was what Paragus cared about, Frieza, and Vegeta for more reasonable reasons. However few care about just him. That's all you need

[Vijay]

Considerin how LSSJ Broly whooped Bluper Goku & Veggie's ass like nothin, dude pretty much rivals God's of Destruction.

Would like an entire Arc dedicated for Broly. Not the same old ass flashback. Something like Phantom Troope Arc for Kurapika in HXHX2011.

Proper storyline, buildup, villain & tie-in parallel to Goku/Veggie's storyline

[ABED]

To bring this back to Broly. I don't see how much depth they can get from his sob story. It was almost comical.

Well I think a cute little friendship story, one about people not using him for gain and instead just care about him. His power and how he controls it was what Paragus cared about, Frieza, and Vegeta for more reasonable reasons. However few care about just him. That's all you need

Maybe. I don't think he should be kept around that long, though.

[Bebi Hatchiyack]

Nothing. I find nothing remotely interesting about his personality and it's already such a huge stretch that someone in isolation and no real training is able to compete with seasoned fighters with god Ki all because he throws a hissy fit.

He worked fine as a one-off movie antagonist but yeah he’s not interesting enough to bring back..

I want to correct this Broly was never the antagonist he was the protagonist hence the movie name and that time where we see FPS style his fight against Goku, another point toward this fact is that Broly was saved by the Dragon Ball by Cheelai who saw the good in him. The antagonist where Frieza also to a lesser extent Paragus but mostly Goku, Vegeta and their fusion Gogeta.

Broly was 100% the Protagonist of this movie. No one else.

I wanna see Broly develop more as a person too. Let's go all the way with that Tarzan thing and show him try to get accustomed to living in society. Maybe learning how to train with someone actually on his level. Learning to control his rage more, etc. There's some arcs there.

I love this because indeed Broly is totally a Tarzan expy here. And we can work so much stories that mirror the King of the Jungle.

As some people wanted too, I want also Broly to have a little arc where we saw him controling his power I think it can be done differently than what we got from Kale during the ToP.

One thing for sure is ... I want more from him and also I love the idea of the OP of this thread with making Broly a kind of Phoenix Ikki of the Z Team. A Wild card appearing when things got tough.

[ABED]

Nothing. I find nothing remotely interesting about his personality and it's already such a huge stretch that someone in isolation and no real training is able to compete with seasoned fighters with god Ki all because he throws a hissy fit.

He worked fine as a one-off movie antagonist but yeah he’s not interesting enough to bring back..

I want to correct this Broly was never the antagonist he was the protagonist hence the movie name and that time where we see FPS style his fight against Goku, another point toward this fact is that Broly was saved by the Dragon Ball by Cheelai who saw the good in him. The antagonist where Frieza also to a lesser extent Paragus but mostly Goku, Vegeta and their fusion Gogeta.

Broly was 100% the Protagonist of this movie. No one else.

I wanna see Broly develop more as a person too. Let's go all the way with that Tarzan thing and show him try to get accustomed to living in society. Maybe learning how to train with someone actually on his level. Learning to control his rage more, etc. There's some arcs there.

I love this because indeed Broly is totally a Tarzan expy here. And we can work so much stories that mirror the King of the Jungle.

As some people wanted too, I want also Broly to have a little arc where we saw him controling his power I think it can be done differently than what we got from Kale during the ToP.

One thing for sure is ... I want more from him and also I love the idea of the OP of this thread with making Broly a kind of Phoenix Ikki of the Z Team. A Wild card appearing when things got tough.

FYI, antagonist doesn't mean bad guy. It's just the term for opposing force of the main character(s). I'll give you this though, an argument can be made that the film is about him, but I would still consider Goku (and Vegeta) the main characters.

The title character can be the antagonist.

[Mad Swami]

To bring this back to Broly. I don't see how much depth they can get from his sob story. It was almost comical.

Well I think a cute little friendship story, one about people not using him for gain and instead just care about him. His power and how he controls it was what Paragus cared about, Frieza, and Vegeta for more reasonable reasons. However few care about just him. That's all you need

Maybe. I don't think he should be kept around that long, though.

Well that's fair

[It_Is_Ayna_You_Flips]

Would like an entire Arc dedicated for Broly. Not the same old ass flashback. Something like Phantom Troope Arc for Kurapika in HXHX2011.

Obligatory "HxH is awesome!" comment. Seriously tho, I don't think anyone at TOEI is ballsy enough to make an arc like that work. The closest thing to the Yorkshin City arc we had in Super was the Zamasu Arc and that arc did not handle its moving parts well. TOEI is only ever successful when it keeps things straight forward. So a Broly arc would need to be the Broly show for it to work and that's not a deviation TOEI is likely to go with

[Thunderbird]

Broly was already doomed when they made him become BFFs with Cheelai and Lemo.

All that will happen with him now is he'll be one the new Vegeta now that Vegeta isn't getting as screwed over as much as he used.

So he'll be some good guy who will be used as a benchmark to make other antagonists look bad. This ruining what made the character so popular in the first place.

He should become a neutral third party. Neither protagonist or antagonist, the kind of character who would show up and beat the bad guy and save Goku and Vegeta only to continue his rampage and end up being more of a threat than the other guy.

That would be something very different which of course means it won't happen.

[ABED]

He should become a neutral third party. Neither protagonist or antagonist, the kind of character who would show up and beat the bad guy and save Goku and Vegeta only to continue his rampage and end up being more of a threat than the other guy.

That would be something very different which of course means it won't happen.

So replay much of DBS Broly? Why should they replay that fight again? How is that different?

[Thunderbird]

So replay much of DBS Broly? Why should they replay that fight again? How is that different?

No I didn't say that particularly. The series has more than enough antagonists become useless sidelined protagonists. Thanks to Super Dragon Ball Heroes that's yet again happened now with Hit and Jiren.

That is the fate that will most likely await Broly. He should be neither a protagonist or an antagonist, he should be his own uncontrollable beast that is a danger to anyone near him.

He should be what the T-rex was in Jurassic World. You run from the T-rex, you are frightened of the T-rex, you don't want that thing anywhere by you because nothing good will come of it....until there's a bigger dinosaur around, then you do want it there but still not anywhere by you.

[ABED]

Except the T-Rex is an amoral animal. It has only one instinct - survival. Broly is a good person with free will. He has rage issues and can't control his power, but that's an issue Goku can help with. It's not the same thing. I guess the best that can come from this is Goku taking on more of a mentorship role.

[Thunderbird]

Except the T-Rex is an amoral animal. It has only one instinct - survival. Broly is a good person with free will. He has rage issues and can't control his power, but that's an issue Goku can help with. It's not the same thing. I guess the best that can come from this is Goku taking on more of a mentorship role.

It could absolutely be the same thing if they don't make the tremendous mistake of having Goku mentor Broly to gain control of his power.

Broly has always been popular for his uncontrollable and explosive rage. Going from some timid looking welp to becoming the Hulk of Dragon Ball. Without that he's nothing.

So by that regard he could be exactly like the T-rex. He can snap and lose control to such an extent he'd soon attack Goku as he would Moro, becoming a danger to anyone around him. Might turn out good to have him there or it might be even worse.

There's more they can do with that because it can be different each time. Whereas if he becomes yet another supporting protagonist who can control his power then he'll soon become another Hit.

Kale's character went straight down the drain the second she got control of her power. Anything that made her stand out even a little was out the window once that happened. They'll end up making the same mistake with Broly, just watch.

[ABED]

It would be a mistake because it wouldn't be in character. If he's going to train with Broly, he would help him gain control of his power. It can take time, but if they play that note too many times, it loses its novelty REALLY quickly.

Might turn out good to have him there or it might be even worse.

Thus replaying the movie. The most I can see coming out of this is perhaps they bring him on some mission, and he doesn't turn on them, but his rage issues cost them the mission.

Kale's character went straight down the drain the second she got control of her power. Anything that made her stand out even a little was out the window once that happened. They'll end up making the same mistake with Broly, just watch.

yes, straight down the drain even though she wasn't there much longer, and it gave her a satisfying end to an arc. Yep, that's going right down the drain.

[Thunderbird]

Thus replaying the movie.

Which movie? That didn't happen in no movie. Frieza brought Broly to Earth, he fought them, lost and he was sent back. That's not what I'm referring to.

I'm talking about a whole myriad of different things. He could show up to save Goku because he wanted to before defeating Moro and leaving. He could defeat Moro and because he's in such a state would then turn to someone else like Kale did with Magetta in the manga. Goku could teleport to him for help and maybe Broly doesn't want to know. Goku could bring Broly to Earth to defeat Moro but he instead ignores Moro and just attacks Goku.

Could save the day, could ruin the day, could do both or could do nothing.

yes, straight down the drain even though she wasn't there much longer, and it gave her a satisfying end to an arc. Yep, that's going right down the drain.

It was because that character has already been reduced to what you see now in Super Dragon Ball Heroes. She's now just another weak female Super Saiyan who will be used to show how strong another character is.

Her going all female Broly in the ToP even though it was yet another uncreative idea did make the character stand out amongst all the other characters involved. Then she got control of her power and lost the one thing that gave her any worth.

[ABED]

It did. Broly throws a hissy fit and Goku and Vegeta have to team up to defeat him, but he's not a bad guy.

I'd much rather they give her a satisfying arc than keep going with the Hulk gimmick. And isn't Heroes just a promotional anime and not really in continuity.

Her going all female Broly in the ToP even though it was yet another uncreative idea did make the character stand out amongst all the other characters involved. Then she got control of her power and lost the one thing that gave her any worth.

But within the context of that story it gives her a satisfying arc. She was allowed to stand out, but it also made her a character and not just a gimmick. It also showed her bond with her friend that she was able to break through. That's worth way more than you give it credit for. And that wasn't even the one thing that gave her any worth. And Kale stands out in the crowd by the VERY simple but unfortunate virtue of being one of a few female fighters, and one of a handful of female Saiyans.

[WittyUsername]

The funny thing about Kale is that the manga didn’t even have a resolution to her not being able to control her powers. I don’t know if that means anything, but some people do seem to consider the manga to be more important than the anime, even though, in the case of Super, the former was made specifically to promote the latter.

[Thunderbird]

It did. Broly throws a hissy fit and Goku and Vegeta have to team up to defeat him, but he's not a bad guy.

But I didn't say they'd need to team up to defeat him again... Vegeta doesn't have to be there, could just be Goku so maybe Broly would kick his ass next time. There's a lot they could do with that character.

If they ever have him gain control over his power and become another ally, that character and any potential he could have would be ruined.

For once, there is a chance for them to do something that has not been done before. An opportunity to not have a former antagonist turn protagonist yet again.

I'd much rather they give her a satisfying arc than keep going with the Hulk gimmick. And isn't Heroes just a promotional anime and not really in continuity.

They took one of the few characters that stood out and then completely removed that thing. Without the gimmick that character is nothing. She is now just the less interesting of the female Saiyans.

Without that form, she is a dull and uninteresting character that will never be able to stand on her own. She is always going to be paired off with Caulifla now. You won't see one without the other because them as a pair of female Saiyans is all they have to offer.

Whether Heroes is important or not, it's clear how those characters are gonna be portrayed.

[Peach]

I want them to quietly retire Broly. We've already seen 4 movies about this character.

[Grimlock]

While others, more interesting characters only get one movie.

[It_Is_Ayna_You_Flips]

If any characters should come back it's the ones from the least interesting films. Look what happened to Bardock. He became a time travelling Super Saiyan who that befriends weird plant people. And that's when he's not going Oozaru to fight Broly.

With one dimensional, dull characters there's no where to go but up