Aim wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:29 pm
SupremeKai25 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:42 am
TobyS wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:41 am
That tea test is anime only shit no?
You really had to remind everyone of your anime hate boner
Because the anime is actually bad? Like, Toyotaro isn’t that creative don’t get me wrong, but Toei can’t and shouldn’t be doing an anime without source material. They did some things well, but the fact they made Goku Black’s form some version he made up for Super Saiyan shows they can’t even read Toriyama’s notes well.
I don't see what the problem is.
Super Saiyan or Super Saiyan Blue or whatever is just one of many forms, just a pointless number associated to something, it's not an important plot detail. If Rosé is Super Saiyan or Super Saiyan Blue doesn't change anything for me, because it's brought up once when he transforms and then it's never mentioned again. It's fluff.
The portrayal of Zamasu and his darker thoughts was done in a
genius way, by using the tea as a visual medium of his internal instability and his descent into darker desires.
Aim wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:15 pm
SupremeKai25 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 3:30 pm
You know it's ironic OP, you say that "despite his goals" he is pure of heart, but what I would say is that he is pure of heart
precisely because of his goals.
You can call it pure evil, but he was single-minded in his desire to see all mortals eradicated. So much so that he transcended his own body and became his own manifestation of Justice and Order, to see his goal accomplished.
Whereas all other villains usually have multiple things going on in their mind, Zamasu was driven, obsessed, and consumed by the desire to eradicate mortals and bring about the "utopia" he desired.
So it is precisely because of his goals that he is pure of heart
Ehh, I don’t agree. I think I may have said this before but even though this is too deep for Dragon Ball, if Zamasu’s distaste came from seeing the (TW)
then I can see him being “pure of heart” if that’s how he came to his conclusions ultimately.
I'm not really contradicting anything of this.
We do not know what Zamasu saw but we do know that he has seen
countless examples like that of Planet Babari, and how those examples always ended the same way.
So it seems like Zamasu:
1) Started out as the purest and most benevolent Kai you could imagine
2) He starts seeing examples like that of Planet Babari
3) He sees even more of those examples, they become countless eventually
4) He starts to lose faith in humanity and in the role of the Gods who allow this evil to happen
5) CUE THE FUTURE TRUNKS ARC
This would be a case of "Tell" more than "Show", since we are told that Zamasu has observed many cases like Planet Babari, so we must trust that statement. Even though we don't actually see others of those examples.
Goku Black also reiterated how he has
observed and
witnessed the acts of mortals throughout the Universe, so it would definitely seem that Zamasu bases his entire actions on extensive and thorough observance carried over a very long time.
In this regard, Zamasu is actually a very unique character and for this reason he is my favourite villain. Usually these kind of "righteous" villains commit atrocities because they are crybabies who had a sad childhood, but Zamasu is different in the sense that he is actually a very composed, rational, eloquent individual (this is especially clear when you look at Goku Black, who always maintains his composure), and he decides to eradicate mortals because he has
observed just how barbaric they can become. There's no melodrama, he's like a scientist who has observed his creations and concluded that mortals are worthless. Like he tells to Trunks, "mortals are the one and only mistake amongst all DIvine creations".