Characters with the highest body count.

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Characters with the highest body count.

Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue May 23, 2023 8:09 pm

I'm trying to create a list on who has the highest kill count in the series. I want to based on what we saw on screen or what knew about the character. Let me know if I made any mistakes or left out any details.

#1: Zeno - Erased multiple universes causing trillions of lives to be gone as if it was nothing.

#2: Goku Black & Future Zamasu: Killed nearly all the mortals across the multiverse. They also wipe out the rest of humanity in Trunks timeline as Infinite Zamasu.

#3: Beerus or any other Destruction God: Beerus has been destroying planets for millions of years. He even destroy a planet with billions of life forms before going to Earth in the DBS anime and manga. Other GoD across the multiverse are known for doing it for a long time too.

#4: Moro: Wipe out millions of lives on 320 planets long before Buu was set free by Bibidi. He nearly drove Nameks to be extinct and wipe out Planet Zun (Pui Pui's home planet).

#5: Majin Buu: Killed billions of lives in several hundred planets in just a few years. Wipe out the human race without destroying the Planet's surface, killed most of the main DB cast, and defeated multiple Kaioshins.

#5: Freeza: Wipe out two major planets, killed some of his own men, and blew up the Earth until Wish reset it.

#6: Vegeta: Has been wiping out planet since he was a little kid, destroy one planet in a filler scene, killed several nameks, and many villains.

#7: Nappa: Blew up a city, killed both Piccolo & Kami, help killed the other human Z figthers, and has played in a role of wiping out planets with Vegeta.

#8: Bardock: We saw him doing missions of destroying other life forms in the DBZ TV special, DB-, and DBS. He has a lot on his blood on his hands for sure.

#9: Raditz - We saw him doing missions with Vegeta as a little kid. He would have likely wipe out millions during his life time on Earth as a solider for Freeza.

#10: Future #17 and #18: Killed most of the Z fighter cast, and probably killed millions of people on Earth.

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Goku: Defeated the Red Robbin Army, killed some of Piccolo Daimo's demon off spring, killed Yakon, killed Buu, killed Freeza in ROF/DBS, killed Moro, and defeated several villains in the DBZ movies and GT.

Tao Pai Pai: Hard to know many people that he has killed as a hitman, but we did see him killed two characters in the series.

Tamburine: Killed Kuririn and other Tenkachi Budokai fighters.

Piccolo Diamo: Killed helpless citizens and destroyed the cities over 300 years ago. He also killed Chazou, Roshi, and blew up an entire city. in Age 753.
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Re: Characters with the highest body count.

Post by SupremeKai25 » Wed May 24, 2023 5:43 am

Black/Zamasu easily should be at Number 1.

1) He killed many individual named characters, like Gowasu (twice, thrice if we include when Zamasu killed him before Whis time-rewind), Goku, Chi Chi, Goten, Bulma, Yajirobe, Turtle, Android 8, and so on. I feel like Named characters should have more importance than nameless fodders; so, even if Zeno erased 6 universes, we knew no one from those universe so it doesn't matter so much to us the viewers. Meanwhile, Zamasu killed fan-favourites like Bulma and Yajirobe on-screen and so that would obviously have an impact on the viewers.

2) We know that he had already slaughtered several other mortal civilizations across the Cosmos before he invaded the Earth:


3) Once he invaded the Earth, he laid waste to the vast majority of the human population in his initial assault, with cataclysmic blast attacks that ravaged and consumed entire continents:


After 1 year of his reign of terror, most of the human population was wiped out with only a few survivors left:


The remaining survivors of the West metropolis (once one of the largest metropolis on Earth) were so few that they could all fit into a ruined subway station:


4) The remaining mortals on Earth were wiped out by Infinite Zamasu's energy blasts as we all know.

5) It's actually mentioned that Earth was the last remaining planet with mortal population in the entire Multiverse, because Fused Zamasu stated that Project Zero Mortals would "culminate" with the eradication of the earthlings. Naturally Zamasu wouldn't stop his Project if there were still mortals on other worlds to be slaughtered, so the fact that he was going to end it at Earth means that all other planets in the Multiverse were already attacked and ruined by Zamasu. This also fits with Zamasu's desire to leave the earthlings for last and deliver to them the worst punishment, for creating the Time machine.

But even if Zamasu somehow missed a few planets with mortals left in them, the mortals that Zeno erased are still indirectly killed by Zamasu as he caused Zeno to snap in the first place, and maybe Infinite Zamasu killed them anyway in the Anime since his energy was spreading everywhere.

6) Zamasu's murderous rampage wasn't restricted to just the mortals, but to the Gods too. He pretty much slaughtered all of his fellow Kais, causing a chain reaction that killed the Destroyers and Angels too. Zamasu was so twisted that he didn't just systematically exterminate mortals, he even exterminate his own fellow Gods. He even killed Super Shenron when he destroyed the Super Dragon Balls. And these are all obviously added to his body count.

In conclusion, Zamasu easily takes the Number 1 Spot.

After him, there would obviously be Zeno because he erased 6 universes.

Then Majin Buu and Moro because they were sort of "forces of nature" villains who destroyed many civilizations over millennia.

Then Frieza and his goons who caused many wars and continue to invade planets at the end of the Broly movie.

But none of them can really compare to the horror that Zamasu unleashed on the Cosmos. He pretty much got what he wanted (0 mortals left), even if he had to make Zeno do it for him. But he was still the main reason why Zeno erased the Cosmos, since Zamasu had ruined it beyond repair.

Another reason why the other villains can't compare with Zamasu is that they were Universal threats. They were content with laying waste to planets in just the U7. Meanwhile, Zamasu wanted to eradicate mortals in ALL Universes, not just the U7; the entire Multiverse was his target and so obviously he would have killed a lot more people than the other villains.

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Re: Characters with the highest body count.

Post by Yuji » Wed May 24, 2023 7:37 am

If we count the erased tournaments from the ToP as deaths, then the Zenos take it as they have the 7 that participated, plus the other 6 from the past, plus the 12 future Zeno destroyed, although these were likely already empty by this point.

If not, then Zamasu may give them a run for their money as it's implied they destroyed every mortal in every universe before coming to U7 though you necessarily have to wonder how that's possible when the Pride Troopers and Hit exist. They likely started with 7 after killing all the Kaioshin, which would heavily reduce their kill count.

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Re: Characters with the highest body count.

Post by SupremeKai25 » Wed May 24, 2023 8:19 am

Yuji wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 7:37 am If we count the erased tournaments from the ToP as deaths, then the Zenos take it as they have the 7 that participated, plus the other 6 from the past, plus the 12 future Zeno destroyed, although these were likely already empty by this point.

If not, then Zamasu may give them a run for their money as it's implied they destroyed every mortal in every universe before coming to U7 though you necessarily have to wonder how that's possible when the Pride Troopers and Hit exist. They likely started with 7 after killing all the Kaioshin, which would heavily reduce their kill count.
The Future Trunks timeline is set 20 years into the future. For all we know, Jiren and Hit could have died during that time for whatever reason (maybe an heart virus like Goku), and Toppo could have been promoted to Destroyer, meaning that he was slain with his Supreme Kai.

Beyond that, if a fodder like Sorbet could oneshot SSB Goku with an off-guard laser beam, Black and Zamasu have more than enough ways to oneshot off-guards Jiren and Hit.

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Re: Characters with the highest body count.

Post by Scientist Fu » Wed May 24, 2023 12:30 pm

Only in the main story? the saiyan race should be up there, like Z Broly who destroyed a whole galaxy. But if it's only in the canon story then your list is good enough. I could add Hit too since he is an assassin he probably killed a lot of people. Maybe the Ginyu force too?

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Re: Characters with the highest body count.

Post by Yuji » Wed May 24, 2023 1:07 pm

SupremeKai25 wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 8:19 am
Yuji wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 7:37 am If we count the erased tournaments from the ToP as deaths, then the Zenos take it as they have the 7 that participated, plus the other 6 from the past, plus the 12 future Zeno destroyed, although these were likely already empty by this point.

If not, then Zamasu may give them a run for their money as it's implied they destroyed every mortal in every universe before coming to U7 though you necessarily have to wonder how that's possible when the Pride Troopers and Hit exist. They likely started with 7 after killing all the Kaioshin, which would heavily reduce their kill count.
The Future Trunks timeline is set 20 years into the future. For all we know, Jiren and Hit could have died during that time for whatever reason (maybe an heart virus like Goku), and Toppo could have been promoted to Destroyer, meaning that he was slain with his Supreme Kai.

Beyond that, if a fodder like Sorbet could oneshot SSB Goku with an off-guard laser beam, Black and Zamasu have more than enough ways to oneshot off-guards Jiren and Hit.
Jiren and Hit aren't exactly the kind of characters to drop their guard.

I'm not necessarily against the idea that they killed every mortal in the multiverse, it just takes a whole lot of suspending your disbelief. You have to come up with convenient excuses as to why a dozen or so characters never defeated them considering Black never really had access to his body's full potential until his fight with the Saiyans, so he was much weaker before.

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Re: Characters with the highest body count.

Post by SupremeKai25 » Wed May 24, 2023 1:33 pm

Yuji wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 1:07 pm Jiren and Hit aren't exactly the kind of characters to drop their guard.
Yet Jiren did exactly that against Android 17, besides, they're just mortals. They can't be on-guard permanently, they, too, need to sleep and rest some time. That's when Black/Zamasu would strike and, with Instant Transmission/Kai Kai, no one is beyond their reach.

The point is that we have already seen a complete fodder (Sorbet) oneshot SSB Goku somehow, so it's not difficult to imagine a scenario where Black and Zamasu find a way to kill an unsuspecting Jiren or Hit. After all, the gap between Sorbet and SSB Goku is obviously much bigger than the gap between Black/Zamasu and Jiren or Hit.

I'm not necessarily against the idea that they killed every mortal in the multiverse, it just takes a whole lot of suspending your disbelief. You have to come up with convenient excuses as to why a dozen or so characters never defeated them considering Black never really had access to his body's full potential until his fight with the Saiyans, so he was much weaker before.
Who are those "dozens" of characters who could have defeated Black/Zamasu? The Gods were all killed, Broly would be an old man past his prime days (reminder that the timeline is 20 years into the future), Moro and his goons were imprisoned and powerless, Granolah and the Heeters are fodder to Apprentice Zamasu, never mind Goku Black. All other universes, except for U6 and U11, are made up of fodders. Jiren, Toppo, and Hit are pretty much the only ones who could pose a challenge to Black and we don't know what happened in Canon, but we can use headcanon to come up with believable scenarios in which Black dealt with them by catching them off-guard.

And don't forget that Black wasn't alone, he had an immortal meatshield in Zamasu who could continually support him with healing and telekinesis abilities. Apprentice Zamasu was already able to fight SS2 Goku in a serious match, making him more powerful than 99.9% of the fodders in the ToP. In addition to this, Black and Zamasu are the same person, so their teamwork is perfect. There's not a lot of people who could challenge them at all.

Now I'm not saying that Canonically Zamasu killed Hit and Jiren, because we never saw or heard this happen (and because, obviously, Jiren wasn't a character in the FT arc); but it is indeed Canon that Zamasu believed he could complete Project Zero Mortals fairly quickly once he got rid of the earthlings. That implies that he got rid of most of the mortals in U6 and U11, even though Hit, Jiren, and Toppo would naturally try to stop him.

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Re: Characters with the highest body count.

Post by Yuji » Wed May 24, 2023 3:50 pm

Jiren got caught off-guard after a long fight and tournament which had frustrated him. I doubt he'd let his guard down in a casual context. I won't mention the angels, the Grand Priest or Zeno because one of the themes of Super is that the Gods are incompetent, so they either didn't know or didn't care. But you still have other mortals to contend with.

Broly would be 65 years old which is hardly past his prime, considering Vegeta confirmed Saiyans stay in their physical prime until they're 80. Moro escaped in the main timeline so presumably he also did here along with his goons, and unless Merus sacrificed himself to stop him, he'd be out there consuming planets and Trunks is just lucky he hasn't found Earth yet. You also have Merus himself, of course, so either Moro or Merus, or both, would stand in their way. Without Freeza, Granolah and the Heeters wouldn't find the motivation to make their wishes, so you're right that they're out of the picture.

As for their strength, you forget Goku Black didn't have access to Rosé right away. In the manga, it's heavily implied he couldn't even access Super Saiyan until he started fighting Trunks - at the very least, he didn't have Rosé. In the anime it's a bit vaguer, but he goes from fighting evenly with Super Saiyan 2 Goku to fighting with Blue Vegeta so he evolves considerably from just fighting Goku. We don't know if he had Rosé at that point, but at least in one of the continuities he only achieved it on Earth. So you got two SS2 level fighters against an entire multiverse. SS2 is impressive but in the ToP alone you could find a few other fighters to level it - Dyspo and Anilaza come to mind. You're also banking on none of the U6 Saiyans finding Super Saiyan on their own, or any of the Namekians fusing. I'm sure Caulifla given twenty years could access Super Saiyan or 2 considering how easy she had it. You also have Kale who is Broly-lite and ready to explode at any point.

Again, it's not implausible and the story certainly points toward them killing all the other mortals - it's what makes thematic sense. But much like the forgotten conveniences of the original time travel from the Cell arc (nobody remembering the RoSaT or new Namek, nobody in the Afterlife trying to help, etc), this arc in hindsight needs a lot of suspension of disbelief to work when you know what comes after it. It really should have been the final arc, or close to the endgame - the stakes certainly warranted it.

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Re: Characters with the highest body count.

Post by GreatSaiyaman123 » Thu May 25, 2023 11:29 am

I think Jiren and Hit could’ve died of natural causes too. I can see Jiren being killed in his sleep or something, but I don’t see Hit falling for that.

Anyway, shouldn’t Zeno erasing the Afterlife and Demon Realm (both realms Zamasu didn’t touch) boost his numbers? He killed everyone Zamasu already killed + everyone who died before the Zero Mortal Plan even started.
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Post by Scientist Fu » Thu May 25, 2023 11:44 am

It could also be that Jiren and Hit weren't even born in that timeline or they had a different life. If Zamasu specifically picked that timeline he knew what he was doing.

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Re: Characters with the highest body count.

Post by Yuji » Thu May 25, 2023 12:03 pm

Scientist Fu wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 11:44 am It could also be that Jiren and Hit weren't even born in that timeline or they had a different life. If Zamasu specifically picked that timeline he knew what he was doing.
Timelines are all originally the same and split at the point of time travel. Trunks' timeline is exactly the same as Goku's until the year Cell arrived at the past. The canon time travel doesn't work like Xenoverse or Heroes with infinite possibilities. Hit has been born for 1000 years so he exists in both timelines, and so does Jiren unless he's under 17 years old.

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Re: Characters with the highest body count.

Post by Scientist Fu » Thu May 25, 2023 1:24 pm

Yuji wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 12:03 pm
Scientist Fu wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 11:44 am It could also be that Jiren and Hit weren't even born in that timeline or they had a different life. If Zamasu specifically picked that timeline he knew what he was doing.
Timelines are all originally the same and split at the point of time travel. Trunks' timeline is exactly the same as Goku's until the year Cell arrived at the past. The canon time travel doesn't work like Xenoverse or Heroes with infinite possibilities. Hit has been born for 1000 years so he exists in both timelines, and so does Jiren unless he's under 17 years old.
My bad, I was in such a muddle. Then I agree with what the others said, maybe they died from a disease or maybe they were unable to fight due to something or maybe they were weakened? this explanation seems a little bit farfetched, but it still works.

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