How strong is Base Vegetto (Manga)?

[ATA]

In the manga I more or less have him as strong as Ultimate/Mystic Gohan before he transforms. That leaves only Buutenks and Buuhan stronger than him. Super Saiyan made him strong enough to dominate Buu.

However I will entertain he's as strong as Buutenks which only leads to Buuhan being stronger than base Vegetto.

In the anime Base Vegetto's a freak of nature and SSJ makes him more of a freak lmao

[Mireya]

According to my numbers, he'd be in-between Boo-Gotenks and Boo-Gohan.

[Bloodthroe]

Base Vegito isn't as strong as the anime filler would lead you to believe. My logic goes off of the fact that other characters do not seem to get a similar multiplier from fusing.

Kibitokai was still considered useless in the fight against Bui, even though Supreme Kai was about as strong as a FPSSJ by himself. Merged Zamasu was also still weak enough to have been beaten by Goku and Vegeta if it weren't for his immortality wish.

Now the multiplier can be different depending on participants, and I'm sure it is, but the disparity is too much. Other fusions seem to only get a 2x boost on top of adding their base power levels.

[Psajdak]

Base Vegetto is exactly as strong as in anime.

[PowerLevelGuy]

It's quite possible for Base Vegetto to be his anime strength even in the manga. Fusion is an exponential increase, so that wild increase has to start somewhere.

Base Vegetto > Blue Goku/Vegeta

and

SSJG Goku > SSJ3 Vegetto

Right there we prove that fusion is exponential. Base Vegetto was nothing to Ritual SSJ God and now he's even beyond Blue. Perhaps you can make the argument that Ritual God is way stronger, but as of now, I think this proves Fusion is completely wild and unpredictable.

It's certainly possible for Base Vegetto to be ridiculously strong based on what we've learned from Super.

[Beasto]

Ultimate Gohan's level at best.

[Civic]

We don't know.

[TobyS]

At minimum ss2 vegeta, possibly ss3 goku.

But he needed to transform, so weaker than gohan boo is all we know.

[Alkiser]

A little above Ultimate Gohan

[Jack Bz]

I like the "base form fusion = strongest fusee's highest form" idea.

So base Vegetto is about as strong as super saiyan 3 Goku in the Boo arc. Base Gogeta in the Broly movie is about as strong as super saiyan blue Goku.

Etc etc.

Realistically we have no idea what Toriyama was thinking except he was probably weaker than Boohan. But even then that's just an assumption.

[Lukmendes]

Realistically we have no idea what Toriyama was thinking except he was probably weaker than Boohan. But even then that's just an assumption.

I'd say that's a safe assumption, characters only really transform against opponents they can't handle in that form, to the point that in Buu saga, Vegeta didn't bother transforming against Pui Pui, and initially Goku didn't transform against Yakon either, and once he did transform it was only really to show off he has ways of seeing in the dark, and then transformed again to trick Yakon.

So yeah, I think it's safe to say base Vegetto is weaker than Buuhan, but even then it's impossible to know how much... He could for example only be about as strong as SS1 Goku, or be only slightly weaker than Buuhan and he didn't feel like fighting on the same level as him.

[miguelnuva1]

Considering Vegito is shocked that SS can dominate Buu but SS is a 50x boost I can see him being slightly weaker than SS3 Gotenks level in base and then being a monster once a SS.

I personally go with SS Vegito= SS3 Gogeta.