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First of all, this thread would not have been possible without the help of Matias for sharing those videos of SubTV recordings.
Unfortunately Dragon Ball Z's run on TV in Finland is not well documented, and one of the few things I heard about their broadcasts was that the Ocean dub was aired with questionable subtitles, so I decided to look into it.
Here's the subtitles with Google automated translations and comparisons to what was said in the English dubs, in this case one episode from Funimation's dub and one episode of the Westwood dub. The episodes in question are Frieza's Second Transformation (82 uncut, 67 edited) and Final Round (episode 198 uncut, 183 edited).
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Finnish subtitle : Piccolon ja Nailin yhdistyneiden voimien ansiosta, taistelu näytti kääntyneen heidän edukseen Google translation : Thanks to the combined forces of Piccolo and Nail, the battle seemed to have turned in their favor Funimation dub line : With Piccolo and Nail becoming one it appeared the fight against the all powerful Freeza had finally turned around
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Finnish subtitle : Kun Frieza ymmärsi tilanteen, han kayi uskomattomaan iskuun Google translation : When Frieza realized the situation, he gave Kayi an incredible blow Funimation dub line : As Freeza learned of the Namekian trick, he upped his efforts, launching an incredible blast
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Finnish subtitle : Frieza ei ole todellakaan mennyttä Google translation : Frieza isn't really gone Funimation dub line : But Freeza is far from finished
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Finnish subtitle : Friezan Toinen Muodonmuutos Google translation : Frieza's Second Transformation Funimation episode title card : Frieza's Second Transformation
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Finnish subtitle : Voi pojat, Piccolo taisi tehda Friezasta selvää Google translation : Oh guys, Piccolo seems to have found out about Frieza Funimation dub line : Oh man it looks like Piccolo whipped Freeza's butt
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Finnish subtitle : Hammastyttavää, miten pitkälle uusi kilpailijamme on selvinnyt Google translation : It's amazing how far our new competitor has survived Westwood dub line : It's quite amazing that our newcomer has come this far
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Finnish subtitle : Kuka väittää, ettemme me osaa juhlia? Google translation : Who says we can't party? Westwood dub line : And whose says we do not know how to party?
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Finnish subtitle : Siirrytään suoraan semifinaalien ensimmaiseen otteluun Google translation : Let's go straight to the first match of the semifinals Westwood dub line : Well then how about we move right on to the first match of the semifinals
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Finnish subtitle : Hän väistelee hyvin, mutta hän ei keskity tarpeeksi Google translation : He dodges well, but he doesn't focus enough Westwood dub line : He dodges well, but he lacks focus
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Finnish subtitle : Goku on kunnossa, mutta missä on Maraikoh? Google translation : Goku is fine but where is Maraikoh? Westwood dub line : Goku is alright but where is Maraikoh?
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Finnish subtitle : Hanet on tyrmätty ja hän on kehan ulkopuolella! Google translation : Hanet is knocked out and out of the ring! Westwood dub line : He's knocked out and out of the ring
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Finnish subtitle : En epaillyt hetkeakään, etteiko han voittaisi Google translation : I didn't doubt for a second that he would win Westwood dub line : Well I never doubted it, not even once
Something interesting I've noticed is the subs for the Funimation dubbed episode show some signs of rewriting whereas the Westwood episode's subs are closer to the lines said in that episode of the dub.
Of course these are the only two clips I've seen, but presumably there are other Finnish recordings of the show. For now these will have to do. It would be cool to know how the subs in other episodes compared. Maybe even the final episode, which aired in German, as I hear it first aired raw but was then rerun with subtitles.
If there's anyone fluent in Finnish here any comments on the quality of the subs or Google's translations would be great to hear.
Do you have any info about international non-English broadcasts about the Dragon Ball anime or manga translations/editions? Please message me. Researching for a future book with Dragon Ball scholar Derek Padula
Dragon ball master wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:33 pm
What about the big green dub? Also Are these your photos like? Do you have any more of like the blue water dub
I'm not sure, I don't have the Finnish DVDs to compare subs, although from what I understand their dub of the movies is based on the Big Green dub so I'm guessing the subs would be similar to the lines in their dub, unless the subs were redone from the ground up.
I cropped these photos from two videos on YouTube, which Matias shared in my previous SubTV thread:
And no don't have any screenshots of the Blue Water dub with subs. From what I've been told the only Dragon Ball series aired in Finland was Z, but Blue Water GT aired in the Netherlands so there may be recordings out there of that dub with Dutch subs.
sangofe wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 2:41 am
And you used Google translate, mate..
I used it for comparisons sake. As I say I'm sure a fluent Finnish speaker would do a better job because humans are better than AI when it comes to the finer details.
Do you have any info about international non-English broadcasts about the Dragon Ball anime or manga translations/editions? Please message me. Researching for a future book with Dragon Ball scholar Derek Padula
The Westwood dub aired in the Netherlands with Dutch subtitles, and the cast recorded the flashbacks of original Dragon Ball. This is a clip from a Dutch recording of Westwood Z.
Do you have any info about international non-English broadcasts about the Dragon Ball anime or manga translations/editions? Please message me. Researching for a future book with Dragon Ball scholar Derek Padula
