Why? because it might offend you personally?
Why? It made for a hilarious visual and made sense in the context of the story being told.We don't want another situation like the Death Note, which featured a sudden appearance by President Trump.
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Why? because it might offend you personally?
Why? It made for a hilarious visual and made sense in the context of the story being told.We don't want another situation like the Death Note, which featured a sudden appearance by President Trump.
This just in: something being political or having political content doesn't therefore mean its inherently "deep". Political content can be just as deep or shallow as anything else, and a given work having political content or being a byproduct of political content (as quite literally EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD IS) does not inherently confer it any degree of greater depth or meaning. It simply denotes that it is a work created by a human being with a pulse.Vorige Waffe wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:12 pmYou literally are given an explanation for why something in Dragon Ball is the way it is, but instead of accepting that, you have to construe it as meaning something else because.... why? That Dragon Ball has to be political? That it has to be "deep"? You're trying to squeeze out the meaning of words of something that's already been explained.
Journey to the West, chapter 26 wrote:The strong man will meet someone stronger still:
Come to naught at last he surely will!
Zephyr wrote:And that's to say nothing of how pretty much impossible it is to capture what made the original run of the series so great. I'm in the generation of fans that started with Toonami, so I totally empathize with the feeling of having "missed the party", experiencing disappointment, and wanting to experience it myself. But I can't, that's how life is. Time is a bitch. The party is over. Kageyama, Kikuchi, and Maeda are off the sauce now; Yanami almost OD'd; Yamamoto got arrested; Toriyama's not going to light trash cans on fire and hang from the chandelier anymore. We can't get the band back together, and even if we could, everyone's either old, in poor health, or calmed way the fuck down. Best we're going to get, and are getting, is a party that's almost entirely devoid of the magic that made the original one so awesome that we even want more.
Kamiccolo9 wrote:It grinds my gears that people get "outraged" over any of this stuff. It's a fucking cartoon. If you are that determined to be angry about something, get off the internet and make a stand for something that actually matters.
Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.
LOL Ultraism. The thing that cannot be missing from any good Superman story.Hellspawn28 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 5:58 pm Art and politics go together like peanut butter and jelly. Anyone who has study art history (like myself) would know this. A lot of people only see on what is on the surface level and not anything else. Like these examples
I don't think most people would be completely oblivious to the 'war is bad' message in Gundam. At least in Gundam AGE, the only Gundam series I've seen, it was laid on pretty thick (I generally don't care about mecha but I watched AGE since it spans around 80 years and I always have to watch any series that depict the passage of time and characters' life stories; Flit's transformation from regular middle school kid to gruff hard-boiled middle-aged man to crazy unfettered grandpa was fun). When most people say that something is or isn't political, what they're actually saying is that it's not political in any way that's controversial or emotionally sensitive. 'War is bad' is a pretty uncontroversial stance that only becomes controversial if more specific wars are involved, mentioned, or alluded to. Giant robots fighting in space, with no direct allusions to real world wars, wouldn't cause a negative response in many people. (I don't know if Gundam makes allusions or references to specific wars, I haven't watched any outside of AGE, though I don't recall AGE making any allusions to real life wars - but the show did finish almost 12 years ago so it's not like I have the best memory of it.) Not to say that it could never be controversial even in its generic form, I guess some would take offense especially depending on the timeframe and social climate, but it's still a message that would be accepted amongst the vast vast majority of readers/viewers, unlike something like a TV show episode revolving around antivaxxers or anti-maskers that would cause major shitstorms to erupt.Hellspawn28 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 5:58 pm Art and politics go together like peanut butter and jelly. Anyone who has study art history (like myself) would know this. A lot of people only see on what is on the surface level and not anything else. Like these examples
I think the meme meant to say altruism. I wasn't the one who made it, I found it browsing around the web.Cure Dragon 255 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:27 pm LOL Ultraism. The thing that cannot be missing from any good Superman story.
To go back to the Freeza example even if Toriyama didn't expect the preteen boys in his target audience to understand the social commentary he was making with Freeza it's still there. Even if the manga only presented it as: "hey, Freeza and his soldiers are dicks, don't be like them" he's still trying to get his message across to his audience, just in a subtle way. People just don't think about it because as much as we love it Dragon Ball isn't known for its subtlety.Hellspawn28 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 5:58 pm Art and politics go together like peanut butter and jelly. Anyone who has study art history (like myself) would know this. A lot of people only see on what is on the surface level and not anything else. Like these examples
We had George Bush (or at least someone who looks like him) during the 2000s in the series. I don't see how Trump apperancing makes it more political?
Also mocking political figures is one of the most milquetoast forms of satire. Imagine clutching your pearls over that.
Exactly. Punching up never gets boring.