Am I the only Gohan fan who hates Beast?

[MisteryOne]

(It's obviously a rhetorical question, but on this fandom you never know...)

Beast is easily the worst part of Super Hero for me. It kind of ruined the ending of a film that I surprisingly enjoyed a lot. Gohan's role in said movie already feels forced, but that's a whole different discussion. Beast comes out of nowhere, is completely unnecesary, and really just seems like a poor attempt at recreating SS2.

Beast already goes against the Moro and Granolah arcs, outright contradicting the former (where a trained Gohan rages after seeing Goku seemingly die, yet doesn't unlock the form despite Piccolo in Super Hero not looking nearly as damaged) and goinst against the whole theme of the later (if you get to be the strongest the easy way, you won't have the skill needed to use your power that comes with training). That is already bad, but could be excused with the writing out of order. However, there is really not excuse for a Gohan after the ToP to not only stop training again, but to unlock Beast minutes after he has unlocked Ultimate again. It's a repeat of his character arc for sermingly no reason, adding a new transformation to the mix.

Unlike Orange who at least has some explanation as to why it never happened before Super Hero, Beast doesn't. I have seen multiple people claiming that its explanation is obvious, yet tellingly they can't agree on what it id. Some kind it's related to its Earthling genes (despite Toriyama saying himself is a representation of his multiple rage moments as a child). Others claim the hair colour makes it obvious it's related to Kaioshins and the Elder's ritual (despite Toriyama also giving insight on how the form was originally going to look like, and said description has nothing to do with Kaioshins white hair). Yet there is nothing oficially as to why a Gohan that had just needed to get Ultimate again could awake further but never did so previously. People argue it's just like Gohan's previous rage moments but again, just looking at the Moro arc: no it's not. It's a whole transformation. I can buy Gihan never got SS2 before the Cell Games because he didn't have SS1 to begin with. Super Hero Gohan did nothing special to gain anything he didn't have since the Buu arc.

The talk about the hair brings me to another thing I hate. The design. Picking a silver color for the hair when Ultra Instinct is still relevant is such a bizarre choice to me- I remember when I watched the film in threates there were people confused about a possible relation between the two. But the most obvious problem is the size of the hair. It's like they attempted to recreate SS2 Cell Games Gohan without taking into account the different body proportions. It's specially disheartening to read how Toriyama came up with it, as his original idea sounds a lot more unique and would get the point across better (really, what is beastly about the final design?). Unlike other designs like SS3 or Orange Piccolo that seem made to look ridiculous but still can look intimidating or cool, Beast...is just too much. The only time I have ever liked the look was during the first chapter of the Goku and Gohan fight in the manga-in said chapter the hair is significantly shorter and it's just so much better.

Another issue is that is... boring. It's basically just Super Saiyan Silver. Unlike Ultra Instinct or Ultra Ego, there is no special ability or drawback related to the form. Hell even Broly's Super Saiyan form is more interesting as he goes berserk with it and it's something he needs to overcome. Beast is just another generic power up that seems out of place now that we finally have the different Saiyans take different transformation paths. It doesn't help it was archieved by rage against a literal Cell clone.

Dragonball struggles to make characters relevant when they are not powerful enough. I get that. I'm obviously not opposed to Gohan being as strong as Goku and Vegeta or surpasing them. My issue is to how he gets there. And somehow Beast has everything I hate combined. Yet other Gohan fans seem so obsessed with the idea that he's finally strong again that they try to defend Beast. But I just don't get it. Even if I liked the design, I would still critize how it's used. Specially when it takes away from other character's path to strength and when it feels like such an obvious nostalgia based mandate. It's like Gohan somehow got the best treatment but also the worst, with little care or consideration about everything that revolves it.

I'm very well aware that I'm on the minority. But I was genuinely incredibly disappointed with Beast, and that is saying something in an era where Toei created Trunks' Rage form and SSGSS Evolution. As the peak of Gohan, it really doesn't work for me.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

I don't know if I would say I hate it, but I'd agree it feels jarring, forced and shoehorned in. It does seem like it was just thrown in to recreate Gohan vs Cell even though the latter was not the real Cell but he shared a likeness, so I guess someone at TOEI thought they should replicate Gohan from the Cell Games as an adult.

I like the Ultra Instinct comparison because it does just feel like another super saiyan transformation but unlike all the forms thus far it's not a saiyan-specific one. Ultra Instinct is at least unique and interesting conceptually, Beast just feels like a poor man's Super Saiyan 2 where the hair turns grey because.... "hey we never made grey-haired Gohan toys, let's do that".

Even Orange Piccolo came off like another excuse to sell toys although I don't know who the intended audience was, because was anyone asking for Piccolo, just bigger and with a skin colour change? I guess there was some explanation for it with Piccolo having untapped potential, but it still didn't feel natural, as you'd wonder why it took him so long to ask Shenron to grant that wish.

I'm still kinda conflicted about Super Hero, sometimes I think maybe I should rewatch it, but every time I did these random new forms just took me out of it. Maybe the appeal of that movie is that it was embracing Dragon Ball's silliness? Resurrection F took itself considerably more seriously, which didn't help acceptance of the new transformations, which were clearly marketing gimmicks but narratively presented as a big deal in Goku's battle with Freeza.

[Grimlock]

Even Orange Piccolo came off like another excuse to sell toys although I don't know who the intended audience was, because was anyone asking for Piccolo, just bigger and with a skin colour change?

Me, to some extent. I had been pretty vocal about Piccolo needing to have a transformation (in a franchise that is all about transformations!), but if anyone had asked me to picture a Piccolo form, I wouldn't have the slightest idea of what it could be. From the very beginning, there never was something that could be done, and this is evidenced by Dragon Ball Online, which all it would do is turning the eyes red.

I kind of liked Ultimate Piccolo. It's sort of in line with Ultimate Gohan, in that there isn't much difference from the base form. Getting rid of the black lines and the green skin becoming lighter is okay, I guess. I don't think I would've thought of something like that. But yeah, Orange Piccolo is terrible, along with the rest of the Dragon Ball Super recolors. However, since no one seems to be competent enough to come up with a nice transformation, Orange Piccolo kind of becomes "okay" too? Just in a context of "we don't/can't have anything better than this, no matter what". Coupled with the detail of Piccolo being the only one without a transformation, anything would be welcomed at that point. Beggars can't be choosers, and all that.


I would be bring this on-topic now, but while I don't like Beast, I'm not a Gohan fan anyway, sorry.

[WittyUsername]

I think both Orange Piccolo and Gohan Beast were pretty terrible ideas, and neither of them really seem like they fit Toriyama’s style. Unfortunately, it seems like every post-BoG Dragon Ball movie has been required to introduce some new transformation. I know Broly technically didn’t, but Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta basically filled the same purpose.

[TechExpert2021]

To me, Son Gohan Beast is nothing but a terrible nostalgia-pandering asspull transformation, along with SSJ Rage Trunks.

[MisteryOne]

I think both Orange Piccolo and Gohan Beast were pretty terrible ideas, and neither of them really seem like they fit Toriyama’s style. Unfortunately, it seems like every post-BoG Dragon Ball movie has been required to introduce some new transformation. I know Broly technically didn’t, but Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta basically filled the same purpose.

This is an interesting point because, while I do really like Super Hero and specially BoG, it really does feel like they need big new stuff to have faith in new movies, which is ironic given how Toei hide both Orange and Beast (and Cell Max) during the film's marketing.

SSGSS was incredibly unnecesary, but back in the day I was fine with it since I mistakenly assumed Toriyama was going for something different, with Goku and Vegeta absorbing SSG into their base and that changing the color of their SS forms (to be fair, I wasn't the only one who thought that, probably because of the form's name and weird Heroes mistranslations at the time). Then the Champa arc came in and it became just another form -the manga at least did something more interesting with it, trough not very organically. (EDIT: Okay actualy that may have been the original intent? Here it's literally said they don't change form)

Gogeta felt incredibly forced because Goku never said anything about why he couldn't just teleport and grab the Potaras, and Ultra Instict also just happened to not activate.

Beast and Gohan feel rather at odds with a film that goes out of its way to exclude Goku and Vegeta, but I guess that was meant to happen if you still make the villains so strong. Still, even if it's just because of the way they are presented, I don't have a problem with Orange and even Ultimate Piccolo because there is not a whole subplot about him going back to shape, and even then they were at least product of a wish rather than...rage probably? But above all I don't see why Gohan needed the form to finish Cell Max off.

I guess you could argue SSGSS was more unnecesary as a whole, but I didn't get the feeling it was out of place on its debut unlike Beast, which you could write off the film without needing to use anything as a substitute. I can't believe I'm going to defend RoF- but it didn't have inorganic callbacks to previous stories frame by frame, which is funny considering its entire premise. I still find RoF to be way worse than Super Hero, but still.

To me, Son Gohan Beast is nothing but a terrible nostalgia-pandering asspull transformation, along with SSJ Rage Trunks.

It's also very interesting to see newer fans' take on this as I have always wondered what is your reaction to all those scenes that are meant as a callback to old iconic ones, without the nostalgia appeal.

[JulieYBM]

The form itself doesn't bother me, but shoe-horning Gohan into a film that he has no place in was just a bad idea. Toriyama clearly doesn't want to write Gohan, so he should just let other writers do whatever they want with him instead and encourage them to do stuff ither than repeating the same character arc over and over.

[90sDBZ]

I'd be fine with it if Gohan had actually been training the entire time. Instead they needlessly made him slack off again, and even had him handwave the danger because Goku and Vegeta.

I loved how they handled him throughout the ToP arc. It felt like he'd finally learned his lesson due to the gravity of the situation. They didn't need to make him the strongest fighter. It was enough just to see him taking things seriously and actually getting involved.

Super Hero throws all that out the window for the sake of a gag, and ultimately makes Beast feel undeserved.

[The Monkey King]

I think the issue most people have with DBS transformations isn't necessarily due to a lack of explanation, it's that they lack thematic relevance with the story being told.
They're more a shallow means to an end to garner cheap hype and fan service rather than tools to tell a more compelling story or give depth to the characters.

Like Orange Piccolo is supposed to represent his pride/heritage as a Namekian, but why though? Not much of Super Hero is about Piccolo's life as a Namekian, there's Karin incorrectly calling his Kami and there's Gamma 2 incorrectly calling him Demon king Piccolo... perhaps there could've more exploration on this if Gohan wasn't shoehorned into being the co-star.

Beast Gohan is supposed to be the culmination of Gohan getting rid of his laziness and complacency. But Beast in of itself contradicts this plot point. Gohan didn't need to train at all, a couple rage boosts and he's the strongest character in the series again.

The RRA creating more androids does nothing to justify these transformations on a deeper narrative level, it's underwhelming story telling. When I see these transformations I feel nothing.

This is unlike the build up to super saiyan 1 and 2 from the original series. SSJ1 is portrayed as the pinnacle of what it means to be a cruel, bloodthirsty saiyan warrior, the only thing that can defeat Freeza the tyrant who wiped out most of the saiyans because he feared the super saiyan. The story foreshadows that Goku will achieve it, but he may have to sacrifice who he is in order to do so. That's why Goku's speech to Freeza is so iconic, he did awaken the form due to anger and violence but his heart is still pure. He is the super saiyan but he is still Son Goku not Kakarot.

SSJ2 isn't as well done but it comes at the conclusion of an arc that began with the Son of Vegeta killing Freeza, it's an arc setting up the next generation of saiyan defenders of Earth. The androids of the RRA leave the saiyans no choice but to truly surpass the SSJ level, as foreshadowed since he headbutted Raditz this saiyan is going to be the son of Goku.

Even the other ascended saiyan forms speak to the nature of the characters. Trunks using Grade III represents his inexperience and naivety, Vegeta using Grade II represents that he may not be as talented as Goku but he's still a pragmatic fighter as Cell praises him for not even attempting to use the useless Grade III form, Goku using Grade IV shows just how much of a martial arts genius he is. He's taken the wild super saiyan form and combined it with the martial arts mastery and philosophy he learnt on Earth.

SSJ3 was a lolBuuSaga asspull but it wasn't even too relevant in defeating Kid Buu, it wasn't given that reward because it didn't deserve it, it had no further narrative ties to the Buu saga as a whole (but maybe it did considering how much of a mess that arc was lol)

[Peach]

I like it, but don't love it.

In real life, mothers can get almost superhuman strength and lift cars to protect their children. Gohan kind of had the same thing here when he saw his daughter in danger. The idea of a feat like that to protect your kid is cool. I do wish he would earn his power from now on and stop being a slacker that gets strong through cheats.

[Tian]

SSJ3 was a lolBuuSaga asspull but it wasn't even too relevant in defeating Kid Buu, it wasn't given that reward because it didn't deserve it, it had no further narrative ties to the Buu saga as a whole (but maybe it did considering how much of a mess that arc was lol)

I agree. It would've been better if SSJ3 was saved for later for the finale as a last resort thing rather than just be one terrible explanation of why Goku spent seven years training in the otherworld.

Not to mention, that the way the transformation debuted was really random. It was like "Hey dude, check it out, I can transform on this too."

[BootyCheeksJohnson]

I think comparing Gohan's anger in the Moro and Granolah arcs vs Super Hero is moot. Toriyama was far more hands off with the manga and anime production than we were lead to believe by marketing. He seemed to be much more involved in the stories to the movies. He rewrote most of the screenplay to BOG and wrote the actual finished script to RF. So he might just not have cared much if the little details of the manga weren't referenced. Creators tend not to care as much about continuity details as fans do.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

SSJ3 was a lolBuuSaga asspull but it wasn't even too relevant in defeating Kid Buu, it wasn't given that reward because it didn't deserve it, it had no further narrative ties to the Buu saga as a whole (but maybe it did considering how much of a mess that arc was lol)

I agree. It would've been better if SSJ3 was saved for later for the finale as a last resort thing rather than just be one terrible explanation of why Goku spent seven years training in the otherworld.

Not to mention, that the way the transformation debuted was really random. It was like "Hey dude, check it out, I can transform on this too."

I didn't mind how Super Saiyan 3 was introduced, as Goku said he'd been through some of the most intense training imaginable in the 7 years since the Cell Games so achieving a new form made sense. Considering that though, Gotenks being able to attain the form made it feel cheap.

It also made more sense for Goku, because originally it was him attaining the original Super Saiyan form that caused Vegeta's resentment and it made a point he was always one step ahead. Vegeta thought he had caught up to Goku, got infuriated when he found out Goku achieved a new form he didn't use against him (although given the circumstances and how much of a drain Super Saiyan 3 was on the body it made sense Goku held out on using it till his fight with Majin Boo) but soon made peace with the fact Goku was the better fighter.

I also like how unpredictable the Boo arc is. It's exciting to watch because you keep guessing how will the universe be saved, as we have a new technique (fusion), new transformation (Super Saiyan 3), you think Gotenks will be the hero, then it's Gohan, then Vegetto, then Goku and Vegeta, etc. Kinda get the impression Toriyama had lots of fun writing it after the Cell arc, which was more him carrying on because of editorial pressure, but Boo brought him back to his more comical and whimsical roots.

[LoganForkHands73]

I guess you could argue SSGSS was more unnecesary as a whole, but I didn't get the feeling it was out of place on its debut unlike Beast, which you could write off the film without needing to use anything as a substitute. I can't believe I'm going to defend RoF- but it didn't have inorganic callbacks to previous stories frame by frame, which is funny considering its entire premise. I still find RoF to be way worse than Super Hero, but still.

Oh, ROF is littered with frame-by-frame callbacks, just to a completely different arc Freeza wasn't involved in so it's less immediately obvious. An entire section of the climax is lifted almost exactly from the Piccolo Jr. arc. Someone shoots Goku through the torso from behind, giving the antagonist an opportunity to sadistically kick Goku's wounds while blocking his friends from helping. Even the way Goku comes in clutch to finish off the villain with a last ditch attack is vaguely similar.

As for the main topic, it's a mixed bag for me. I'm satisfied with the loose explanation Toriyama has given for Beast, I don't think it needs to be overcomplicated. I can also buy that the conditions were enough to trigger Beast, the RRA already put Gohan through the stress of his daughter being kidnapped before he saw Piccolo being shot to pieces. In the Moro arc, everyone in the squad was getting bulldozed equally, more like what happened with the Cell Juniors. Nothing more can be said about Beast's design and introduction being a rehash of Gohan's Super Saiyan 2 transformation in the Cell arc, but you know what, I think without it, Super Hero wouldn't have much going for it.

Like, say what you want about the artistic integrity or lack thereof behind it, but the entire scene fucks pretty hard. The Makankosappo against Cell Max is as flashy and spectacular as Dragon Ball has ever been and in a dreary post-COVID world, I think people needed to see something like that when flocking back to the cinemas. Yeah, it's cheap fanservice and whoever in the Latin American fandom created Gohan Blanco probably deserves some royalties, but if that's the M.O. of the revived era, they might as well go all in and give me some damned fireworks, babyyyyy.



More to the point about Super Hero, rewatches have made me realise that story-wise, it might just be one of the weakest movies so far. Once you get over the novelty that it's a Dragon Ball movie with someone other than Goku as the lead, there's not much of interest there beyond cool art and some charming interactions. Piccolo's feud with the Gamma twins is built on a misunderstanding and once that resolves itself, the conflict utterly fizzles out.

That's why Gohan Beast and Cell Max feel begrudgingly necessary to allow the film to end on a high note. Where else could it really go? Sure, they could have gone about establishing another climactic threat in a more original fashion, but the way it went down was entertaining enough.

I think Super Hero generally suffers from the same issue as ROF (and most of the recent movie projects, to one extent or another), which is a lack of compelling structure. It's not nearly as egregious as ROF which could probably be used in university classes as a case study of how not to structure a movie.

[MisteryOne]

I think comparing Gohan's anger in the Moro and Granolah arcs vs Super Hero is moot. Toriyama was far more hands off with the manga and anime production than we were lead to believe by marketing. He seemed to be much more involved in the stories to the movies. He rewrote most of the screenplay to BOG and wrote the actual finished script to RF. So he might just not have cared much if the little details of the manga weren't referenced. Creators tend not to care as much about continuity details as fans do.

Toriyama quite literally redraw and approved pages of the manga by page, with some incredibly random redraws including Krillin's reduced height. It's literally impossible for him to not have seen Gohan's rage in the Moro arc. Toyotaro even needed his approval to use SSG and Ultra Ego Vegeta, and Toriyama pushed for the creation and inclusion of the Heeters in the Granolah arc specifically and they are key characters in there (and we also know about his correction of Bermoud and Marcarita's relationship). He may not have been as involved in the anime, but in the manga? I have a very hard time believing it. Seeing the scripts for a weekly anime is one thing, but checking monthly manga chapters is a lot easier and he cared enough to add elements to it.

And it definetly isn't s little detail to contradict the entire theme of the entirely of the Granolah arc which is my main point (Gohan doesn't appear there), not to mention there is still no reason why Gohan didn't unlock Beast between the Buu arc and Super Hero. It was also said Gohan being in Super Hero was not even his idea in the first place (with fits with how at odds Gohan's actual role in said movie is written despite Piccolo being the actual protagonist who moves the story along). I don't think is too much to ask for a character to not completely disminish what an entire arc -the very previous one not the less- was going for just for the sake of a transformation. Toriyama knew about what the Granolah was about. The inclusion of a new set of Dragon Balls came from him!

I like it, but don't love it.

In real life, mothers can get almost superhuman strength and lift cars to protect their children. Gohan kind of had the same thing here when he saw his daughter in danger. The idea of a feat like that to protect your kid is cool. I do wish he would earn his power from now on and stop being a slacker that gets strong through cheats.

See if this was actually the way he archieved it I wouldn'r have any issue with it. But Pan (presumably) being in danger allows him to tap into Ultimate again, while Beast specifically seemed to come from seeing Piccolo "die" against Cell Max. Ignoring the build up or lack thereof of the scenes, they are still two different ones. I would have had a way easier time buying it if Pan or literally any new external source had been the trigger. But I don't ger that from Super Hero. I only get a recreation of the SS2 scene (which I already kind of feel would have been better if Gohan and 16 had any actual relationship, but that's another point) when seeing Piccolo defeated.

I'm not asking for the edgy fan idea of Cell killing Pan, but at least having her be the reason would be more interesting, even if I would still complain about the movie introducing a new transformation *while* also keeping the idea that Gohan has stopped training.

Honestly, at this point the damage is done for me. I don't think I will ever care if Gohan has to keep up in orden to keep Beast, as there will always be the excuse that he has previously unlocked it, and personally I think the idea of losing a transformation/state/whatever Ultimate is supposed to be nowadays is rather unnecesary on its own.

Similarly, you could argue Gohan slacked off and still got a free power up that made him the strongest in the Buu arc, but there is at least a reason to it. It isn't so much about if he has "earned" it for me as I think that's quite subjective and arbitrary, but if I can buy why the new power up didn't exist previously. Gohan needed the old Kaioshin for Ultimate, that's fine. He didn't meet him previously. Gohan just needed...rage to archieve Beast.

[JulieYBM]

I'm pretty sure that Super Hero was written before the Granola arc, if not also before the Moro arc, so the inconsistencies between the two lie more on Super Hero being contradicted later on. Of course, that doesn't really cover the comic adaption just repeating the story of the film, but hey, that's hardly the first time a Dragon Ball editor hasn't pushed for some semblance of thematic consistency.

[Luso Saiyan]

I'm definitely not a fan of the Beast design, with its overt SS2 Gohan reference.

I think SSG and SSGSS are the only new transformations that felt logical and apropriate in the sense that there was a reason behind them and they didn't feel to be a reference or pandering to anything. And I like their simple aesthetic. Everything else that was done in Super as far as transformations go felt shoehorned to me, from SSG being made into just another transformation that they can go back to, to the whole Ultra Instinct thing, which was supposed to be an internal thing rather than external. I get that it makes it easier for marketing though.

[Tian]

I also like how unpredictable the Boo arc is. It's exciting to watch because you keep guessing how will the universe be saved, as we have a new technique (fusion), new transformation (Super Saiyan 3), you think Gotenks will be the hero, then it's Gohan, then Vegetto, then Goku and Vegeta, etc.

I'm not gonna lie that when I was a kid, I found the Buu arc as the most awesome of the Z series because of that stuff but the more I re-watched it, the more I felt that it was too awesome for my taste.

I personally would have settled with only Ultimate Gohan and Vegetto, but of course, this would have led to Trunks and Goten not getting any spotlight and being just secondary characters.

[Jord]

Gohan beast is just "Remember Gohan turning SSJ2"? Nothing more. It's creative bankruptcy. I don't know when or if Super continues but shifting from Gohan's ultimate potential unlocked (which felt unique) to just another SSJ form feels like a downgrade.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

I also like how unpredictable the Boo arc is. It's exciting to watch because you keep guessing how will the universe be saved, as we have a new technique (fusion), new transformation (Super Saiyan 3), you think Gotenks will be the hero, then it's Gohan, then Vegetto, then Goku and Vegeta, etc.

I'm not gonna lie that when I was a kid, I found the Buu arc as the most awesome of the Z series because of that stuff but the more I re-watched it, the more I felt that it was too awesome for my taste.

I personally would have settled with only Ultimate Gohan and Vegetto, but of course, this would have led to Trunks and Goten not getting any spotlight and being just secondary characters.

Yeah, I thought the Boo arc was awesome as a kid, obviously over the years I've heard the complaints from fans who became more jaded on it growing up and I've accepted its not for everyone.

As I learned more about Toriyama, how he's a comedian and a troll at heart I kinda felt the Boo arc was so him. Yes it has its flaws because Toriyama was never a guy that plans things through from chapter-to-chapter, but it worked out well in spite of that.

Derek Padula likes to say Toriyama is underappreciated as a writer, which I can see to an extent because most writers would not be able to execute stories as well as Toriyama did if they were in the same position of flying by the seat of their pants. I know if I tried my end result would turn out to be hot garbage, but Toriyama had a way of still making it fun and engaging.

Gohan beast is just "Remember Gohan turning SSJ2"? Nothing more. It's creative bankruptcy. I don't know when or if Super continues but shifting from Gohan's ultimate potential unlocked (which felt unique) to just another SSJ form feels like a downgrade.

If I recall correctly in Super episode 22 during the fight with Ginyu in Tagoma's body Gohan said he couldn't tap into his latent potential because he hadn't been training, and then he had to use his Super Saiyan form.

Considering what the Mystic form is supposed to be it shouldn't have required training, as we think of it (or perhaps what Goku thinks of as training). I'd think more meditation would be better suited because Mystic was more of a serene thing, which suits Gohan as he doesn't live to fight like his dad and only does when he has to. Beast doesn't feel necessary, it may be thought of as awakening ones more feral state, but Super Saiyan is just that, but more subtle.

Reverting back to Super Saiyan or Super Saiyan-esque transformations like Beast seems like a regression. It's taking away what made Gohan unique and turns him into another generic Saiyan warrior that's no different from Goku and Vegeta in battle.